This note is just to get some frustration off my chest and to remind the Fedora community that stupidity can reign no matter how smart you might think you are.
Just did a virgin Fedora 14 reinstall after completely screwing up my operating system because I thought I had a failing disk drive. The one that has all my backups. Compounding my problems by losing grub and my WindowsXP partition.
After spending more than a day working on it, and a couple of calls to my vendor, my solutions got more and more inventive until I managed to just about blow the whole machine up.
Only then, in my frustration, did I think to take the side panel off my computer, jiggle the cables to the harddrive, remove the cable and reattach it. Fixed everything. Now I am busy trying to get everything back to the way I like.
No reply necessary. Just thought someone else might be in the throws of some frustrated, non-thinking stupidity and might need a warning to stop, take a breath, indulge in the sin of your choice and think before doing any more damage. Particularly, try to keep screwdrivers out of your hands at times like these.
I know you might say, I have been there, done that. Even bought the T-shirt. But PEBAK continues exist in the best of families.
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 12:06 -0500, William Case wrote:
This note is just to get some frustration off my chest and to remind the Fedora community that stupidity can reign no matter how smart you might think you are. ... I know you might say, I have been there, done that. Even bought the T-shirt. But PEBAK continues exist in the best of families.
Amen, brother! Don't worry, your secret is safe with us.
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:06:22 -0500 William Case wrote:
Only then, in my frustration, did I think to take the side panel off my computer, jiggle the cables to the harddrive, remove the cable and reattach it. Fixed everything.
Check the dumb stuff first - that's my philosophy! (Had the same problem with a sata drive cable, but at least I wound up with a spare disk for my efforts :-).
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 12:27 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:06:22 -0500 William Case wrote:
Only then, in my frustration, did I think to take the side panel off my computer, jiggle the cables to the harddrive, remove the cable and reattach it. Fixed everything.
Check the dumb stuff first - that's my philosophy! (Had the same problem with a sata drive cable, but at least I wound up with a spare disk for my efforts :-).
I wanted to, but the coat check kept trying to put my brain on a hook! It hurt! ;)
Personally I replaced the whole computer only to find out that the error was a driver error that was fixed later.... DUHHH!!!
Regards, Les H
On 01/04/2011 05:06 PM, William Case wrote: <snip>
I know you might say, I have been there, done that. Even bought the T-shirt. But PEBAK continues exist in the best of families.
sure does continue. that should be *PEBKAC*.
*Problem Exist Between Keyboard And Chair*
(gbwg).
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 17:41 +0000, g wrote:
On 01/04/2011 05:06 PM, William Case wrote:
<snip>
I know you might say, I have been there, done that. Even bought the T-shirt. But PEBAK continues exist in the best of families.
sure does continue. that should be *PEBKAC*.
*Problem Exist Between Keyboard And Chair*
All these years, and I never realized that PEBKAC had an orientation. In fact, PEBKAC is generally a matter of disorientation. AFAIK, all the things that appear between the keyboard and the chair also exist between the chair and the keyboard.
BTW, Googling PEBKAC yields about 70,700 hits; PEBCAK about 18,700. Wikipedia's entry also lists PICNIC ("Problem In Chair, Not In Computer) and ID10T as alternative designations for the same issue.
Sorry, back to work...
(gbwg).
On 01/04/2011 10:02 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
BTW, Googling PEBKAC yields about 70,700 hits; PEBCAK about 18,700. Wikipedia's entry also lists PICNIC ("Problem In Chair, Not In Computer) and ID10T as alternative designations for the same issue.
Does it mention either Luser or LART?
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 10:56 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/04/2011 10:02 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
BTW, Googling PEBKAC yields about 70,700 hits; PEBCAK about 18,700. Wikipedia's entry also lists PICNIC ("Problem In Chair, Not In Computer) and ID10T as alternative designations for the same issue.
Does it mention either Luser or LART?
Luser gets a page of its own. LART (AKA "clue-by-four") gets a mention there.
For hours of entertainment at the expense of those poor saps we're supposed to be helping (if you're feeling in a sour mood about it), see the BOFH page and the stories linked from there.
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