Hello, does anyone run zfs on fedora 23? I could use some insights on how to install it properly (the documentation just gives 2 commands so...) Some people ran into the same issues apparently but i couldn't find one on fedora. If anybody has his hands on real documentation or whathever i'll take it thanks. Meanwhile i'll keep crawling google
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 21:50:15 +0100 thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, does anyone run zfs on fedora 23? I could use some insights on how to install it properly (the documentation just gives 2 commands so...) Some people ran into the same issues apparently but i couldn't find one on fedora. If anybody has his hands on real documentation or whathever i'll take it thanks. Meanwhile i'll keep crawling google
Thanks for mentioning this. It sounds like the best thing since sliced bread. The fly in the ointment is the CDDL licensing incompatibility with the gpl, so it can't go directly in the linux kernel.
Here's an article from IBM on how to use it with zfs-fuse. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-zfs/
This article from wikipedia says that it is gentoo and ubuntu that have the best support and documentation for zfs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS
The official zfsonlinux development site, http://zfsonlinux.org/ , says that DKMS packages are available for Fedora at http://zfsonlinux.org/fedora.html It still is talking about yum, but the commands probably would work with dnf.
But, I don't think anaconda will install to a zfs file system, so it would be necessary to create the zfs partitions from an installed version of Fedora, and copy or rsync with the appropriate command an already installed Fedora to get Fedora installed on a zfs file system.
That license incompatibility.
what zfs file system?
I was installing zfsonlinux (the famous documentation with 2lines of command) using the latest packages available on github (release december 2015) and the module won't load. The probable code was an error during installation saying the module driver did not build, it seems when one update fedora some files are missing (since the system decide on it's own to switch to a newer kernel) so the install failed?
Basically i'm looking for a fedora user who ran into the same issue.
2016-02-08 23:25 GMT+01:00 stan stanl-fedorauser@vfemail.net:
On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 21:50:15 +0100 thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, does anyone run zfs on fedora 23? I could use some insights on how to install it properly (the documentation just gives 2 commands so...) Some people ran into the same issues apparently but i couldn't find one on fedora. If anybody has his hands on real documentation or whathever i'll take it thanks. Meanwhile i'll keep crawling google
Thanks for mentioning this. It sounds like the best thing since sliced bread. The fly in the ointment is the CDDL licensing incompatibility with the gpl, so it can't go directly in the linux kernel.
Here's an article from IBM on how to use it with zfs-fuse. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-zfs/
This article from wikipedia says that it is gentoo and ubuntu that have the best support and documentation for zfs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS
The official zfsonlinux development site, http://zfsonlinux.org/ , says that DKMS packages are available for Fedora at http://zfsonlinux.org/fedora.html It still is talking about yum, but the commands probably would work with dnf.
But, I don't think anaconda will install to a zfs file system, so it would be necessary to create the zfs partitions from an installed version of Fedora, and copy or rsync with the appropriate command an already installed Fedora to get Fedora installed on a zfs file system.
That license incompatibility.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:06 AM, thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
what zfs file system?
I was installing zfsonlinux (the famous documentation with 2lines of command) using the latest packages available on github (release december 2015) and the module won't load. The probable code was an error during installation saying the module driver did not build, it seems when one update fedora some files are missing (since the system decide on it's own to switch to a newer kernel) so the install failed?
Basically i'm looking for a fedora user who ran into the same issue.
Why not just get it prebuilt for Fedora? zfsonlinux.org has a package specifically for Fedora.
That's exactly what i did and it ain't working On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 at 04:41, Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:06 AM, thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
what zfs file system?
I was installing zfsonlinux (the famous documentation with 2lines of command) using the latest packages available on github (release december 2015) and the module won't load. The probable code was an error during installation saying the module
driver
did not build, it seems when one update fedora some files are missing
(since
the system decide on it's own to switch to a newer kernel) so the install failed?
Basically i'm looking for a fedora user who ran into the same issue.
Why not just get it prebuilt for Fedora? zfsonlinux.org has a package specifically for Fedora.
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016, 11:58 PM thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
That's exactly what i did and it ain't working
I suggest filling an issue ticket with upstream, or ask on their list or forum.
Chris Murphy
Hey all,
I ran in the same problem. I removed the ZFS repo of ZFS itself. I installed the Fedora version, after that the ZFS pool was unable to be mounted (something with dependencies of features).
I then proceeded to remove everything of ZFS on my system and installed again the ZFS repository. This turned out to be the winning move. Why? I don't know, but the ZFS packages of the repository compiles something. So, my bet it does something to the kernel and with the upgrade of Fedora 23 it got broken.
Installed packages ATM: libnvpair1.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libuutil1.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libzfs2.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libzpool2.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs spl.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs spl-dkms.noarch 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs-dkms.noarch 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs-release.noarch 1-4.fc23 @@commandline
Repository: [zfs] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-source] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Source baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-testing] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Testing baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora-testing/$releasever/$basearch/ enabled=0 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-testing-source] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Testing Source baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora-testing/$releasever/SRPMS/ enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
On 02/10/2016 09:28 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016, 11:58 PM thibaut noah <thibaut.noah@gmail.com mailto:thibaut.noah@gmail.com> wrote:
That's exactly what i did and it ain't workingI suggest filling an issue ticket with upstream, or ask on their list or forum.
Chris Murphy
@maikel : Not the same issue mate, this is the first time ever i install zfsonlinux and my packages are for fedora 23. I used the new packages available through github (specific for fedora 23), the module could not build for whathever reason, seems that it is looking for files i do not have since a genius decided that when you update the system why not update the kernel itself #yolo. So i'm screwed, i have absolutly zero knowledge in kernel so i have no idea how to get those files back (something like kernel-header, sources etc) and i have to boot on my previous kernel otherwise i cannot launch my qemu vm which uses vfio.
@chris : already did, still waiting for an answer...
2016-02-10 9:44 GMT+01:00 Maikel van Leeuwen maikel.van.leeuwen@sentia.com :
Hey all,
I ran in the same problem. I removed the ZFS repo of ZFS itself. I installed the Fedora version, after that the ZFS pool was unable to be mounted (something with dependencies of features).
I then proceeded to remove everything of ZFS on my system and installed again the ZFS repository. This turned out to be the winning move. Why? I don't know, but the ZFS packages of the repository compiles something. So, my bet it does something to the kernel and with the upgrade of Fedora 23 it got broken.
Installed packages ATM: libnvpair1.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libuutil1.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libzfs2.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs libzpool2.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs spl.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs spl-dkms.noarch 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs.x86_64 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs-dkms.noarch 0.6.5.4-1.fc23 @zfs zfs-release.noarch 1-4.fc23 @@commandline
Repository: [zfs] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora/$releasever/$basearch/ enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-source] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Source baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora/$releasever/SRPMS/ enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-testing] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Testing baseurl= http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora-testing/$releasever/$basearch/ enabled=0 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
[zfs-testing-source] name=ZFS on Linux for Fedora $releasever - Testing Source baseurl=http://archive.zfsonlinux.org/fedora-testing/$releasever/SRPMS/ enabled=0 gpgcheck=1 gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-zfsonlinux
On 02/10/2016 09:28 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016, 11:58 PM thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
That's exactly what i did and it ain't working
I suggest filling an issue ticket with upstream, or ask on their list or forum.
Chris Murphy
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:05 AM thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
@maikel : Not the same issue mate, this is the first time ever i install zfsonlinux and my packages are for fedora 23. I used the new packages available through github (specific for fedora 23), the module could not build for whathever reason, seems that it is looking for files i do not have since a genius decided that when you update the system why not update the kernel itself #yolo.
You aren't giving us any useful information. There is no such error as "could not build for whatever reason". Give us the actual failure message instead of being coy about it.
Best. Star in a new Terminal window, follow their two steps, copy paste the entire result to fpaste.org, and then post the URL here.
So i'm screwed, i have absolutly zero knowledge in kernel so i have no idea
how to get those files back (something like kernel-header, sources etc) and i have to boot on my previous kernel otherwise i cannot launch my qemu vm which uses vfio.
Hopefully you filled a kernel bug on that?
In the meantime you need to use --exclude=kernel whenever you do system updates or it will update the kernel and kernel-headers.
And there can be only one kernel-headers version installed at a time. This can get tricky (OK annoying).
What do you get for
dnf downgrade kernel-headers
Does it correctly offer to install the version for the kernel needed for vfio? If yes, let dnf downgrade kernel-headers. Then retry reinstalling ZFS stuff.
Next look at man dnf.conf to see how you can add an exclude for the kernel, until the kernel vfio bug gets fixed.
Chris Murphy
Sorry about the enigmatic error message, truth is i wasn't home so i couldn't get it.
Kernel bug? I thought this was normal behaviour so no. I didn't know that, this can be annoying indeed, is there a technical reason behind? Or they just don't trust users?
Downgrade kernel-headers and reinstalling kernel-devel and zfs after removing them was successfull, zfs module was run successfully. The module coud not build because it detected the new kernel-headers (4.3.3) and i was log with 4.2.5. Thanks for the help
2016-02-10 16:43 GMT+01:00 Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com:
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:05 AM thibaut noah thibaut.noah@gmail.com wrote:
@maikel : Not the same issue mate, this is the first time ever i install zfsonlinux and my packages are for fedora 23. I used the new packages available through github (specific for fedora 23), the module could not build for whathever reason, seems that it is looking for files i do not have since a genius decided that when you update the system why not update the kernel itself #yolo.
You aren't giving us any useful information. There is no such error as "could not build for whatever reason". Give us the actual failure message instead of being coy about it.
Best. Star in a new Terminal window, follow their two steps, copy paste the entire result to fpaste.org, and then post the URL here.
So i'm screwed, i have absolutly zero knowledge in kernel so i have no
idea how to get those files back (something like kernel-header, sources etc) and i have to boot on my previous kernel otherwise i cannot launch my qemu vm which uses vfio.
Hopefully you filled a kernel bug on that?
In the meantime you need to use --exclude=kernel whenever you do system updates or it will update the kernel and kernel-headers.
And there can be only one kernel-headers version installed at a time. This can get tricky (OK annoying).
What do you get for
dnf downgrade kernel-headers
Does it correctly offer to install the version for the kernel needed for vfio? If yes, let dnf downgrade kernel-headers. Then retry reinstalling ZFS stuff.
Next look at man dnf.conf to see how you can add an exclude for the kernel, until the kernel vfio bug gets fixed.
Chris Murphy
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