Sound Juicer offers no profiles

[Matthew Saltzman]

I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3 
format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog 
that says:

The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
        installation.

and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
odd.

But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
help for SJ.

Any idea what I've done wrong?

TIA.

[JD]

On 06/27/2011 06:55 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3
> format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog
> that says:
>      The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
>      installation.
>
> and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> odd.
>
> But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> help for SJ.
>
> Any idea what I've done wrong?
>
> TIA.

By default, mp3 encode/decode libraries are not available in
Fedora distros. You have to install the necessary mp3 libs
from somewhere else.
Same problem was reported and solved here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html

[Ed Greshko]

On 06/28/2011 09:55 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3 
> format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog 
> that says:
>     The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
>     installation.
>
> and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> odd.
>
> But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> help for SJ.
>
> Any idea what I've done wrong?

I have choice of .flac, .ogg, .mp2, .mp3, .wav, and .spx.

I also have the rpmfusion free and non-free repos installed and enabled.
all of the gstreamer-plugins installed.

gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-extras-0.10.22-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.21-3.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-devel-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.i686

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 19:03 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 06:55 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3
> > format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog
> > that says:
> >      The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
> >      installation.
> >
> > and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> > profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> > Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> > machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> > odd.
> >
> > But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> > all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> > help for SJ.
> >
> > Any idea what I've done wrong?
> >
> > TIA.
>
> By default, mp3 encode/decode libraries are not available in
> Fedora distros. You have to install the necessary mp3 libs
> from somewhere else.
> Same problem was reported and solved here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html

I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
*something* built in by default?

$ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 19:03 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 06:55 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3
> > format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog
> > that says:
> >      The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
> >      installation.
> >
> > and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> > profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> > Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> > machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> > odd.
> >
> > But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> > all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> > help for SJ.
> >
> > Any idea what I've done wrong?
> >
> > TIA.
>
> By default, mp3 encode/decode libraries are not available in
> Fedora distros. You have to install the necessary mp3 libs
> from somewhere else.
> Same problem was reported and solved here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html

I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
*something* built in by default?

$ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 19:03 -0700, JD wrote:
> On 06/27/2011 06:55 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3
> > format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog
> > that says:
> >      The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
> >      installation.
> >
> > and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> > profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> > Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> > machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> > odd.
> >
> > But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> > all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> > help for SJ.
> >
> > Any idea what I've done wrong?
> >
> > TIA.
>
> By default, mp3 encode/decode libraries are not available in
> Fedora distros. You have to install the necessary mp3 libs
> from somewhere else.
> Same problem was reported and solved here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html

I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
*something* built in by default?

$ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:31:18 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
> the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
> whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
> *something* built in by default?
>
> $ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
> gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
> gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64

Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?

[Matthew Saltzman]

Wow, apologies for all the duplicates.  Not sure why evolution has it in
for me...

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 08:32 -0700, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 19:03 -0700, JD wrote:
> > On 06/27/2011 06:55 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > > I'm new to music management in Fedora.  I'm trying to rip a CD to MP3
> > > format using Sound Juicer in F15.  When I open SJ, it pops up a dialog
> > > that says:
> > >      The currently selected audio profile is not available on your
> > >      installation.
> > >
> > > and offers me a chance to Quit or Change Profile.  If I try to change
> > > profile, the CD is opened and the preferences window opens.  The CD
> > > Drive selector is blank, but choosing it lists the only CD drive in the
> > > machine.  After selecting that, the selector remains blank, which seems
> > > odd.
> > >
> > > But the real problem is, the Output Format selector lists no options at
> > > all.  I expected some options available by default, as described in the
> > > help for SJ.
> > >
> > > Any idea what I've done wrong?
> > >
> > > TIA.
> >
> > By default, mp3 encode/decode libraries are not available in
> > Fedora distros. You have to install the necessary mp3 libs
> > from somewhere else.
> > Same problem was reported and solved here:
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-957.html
>
> I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
> the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
> whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
> *something* built in by default?
>
> $ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
> gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
> gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
> gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
> gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 18:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:31:18 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > I wouldn't be that surprised not to have an MP3 profile if I didn't have
> > the right plugins.  But my complaint is that I see *no profiles
> > whatsoever*!  Surely even if I don't have MP3 capability, I'd have
> > *something* built in by default?
> >
> > $ rpm -qa gstreamer* | sort
> > gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.i686
> > gstreamer-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-debuginfo-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.11-2.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.22-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-bad-nonfree-0.10.21-2.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.i686
> > gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.33-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.29-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.18-1.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-python-0.10.19-2.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.7-3.fc15.x86_64
> > gstreamer-tools-0.10.34-1.fc15.x86_64
>
> Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?

Looks that way.

$ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
        libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
        $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/28/2011 09:24 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> Wow, apologies for all the duplicates.  Not sure why evolution has it in
> for me...

Don't feel too bad.  Tish happens.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:33:38 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
>
> Looks that way.
>     $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
>     libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
>     $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles

Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?
Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 22:04 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:33:38 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
> >
> > Looks that way.
> >     $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
> >     libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
> >     $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles
>
> Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?

Yes.
> Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?

No.  Soundconverter shows several options for Type of Result, but if I
select GNOME Audio Profile, the Profile selector is blank and grayed
out.

Thanks.
>

[Athmane Madjoudj]

On 06/29/2011 05:31 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 22:04 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:33:38 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > > > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
> > >
> > > Looks that way.
> > >      $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
> > >      libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
> > >      $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles
> >
> > Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?
>
> Yes.
> > Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?
>
> No.  Soundconverter shows several options for Type of Result, but if I
> select GNOME Audio Profile, the Profile selector is blank and grayed
> out.
>
> Thanks.
> >

Not long ago, I saw the same issue, I've fixed it with:

su -c 'yum reinstall libgnome-media-profiles'

HTH

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 17:36 +0100, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
> On 06/29/2011 05:31 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 22:04 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:33:38 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > > > > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
> > > >
> > > > Looks that way.
> > > >      $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
> > > >      libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
> > > >      $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles
> > >
> > > Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?
> >
> > Yes.
> > > Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?
> >
> > No.  Soundconverter shows several options for Type of Result, but if I
> > select GNOME Audio Profile, the Profile selector is blank and grayed
> > out.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > >
>
> Not long ago, I saw the same issue, I've fixed it with:
>
> su -c 'yum reinstall libgnome-media-profiles'
>
> HTH

Unfortunately, no joy.

Thanks for the suggestion, though.
>

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:31:03 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > > > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
> > >
> > > Looks that way.
> > >     $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
> > >     libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
> > >     $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles
> >
> > Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?
>
> Yes.
> > Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?
>
> No.  Soundconverter shows several options for Type of Result, but if I
> select GNOME Audio Profile, the Profile selector is blank and grayed
> out.

Try some GConf queries, such as:

$ gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list
[cdlossy,cdlossless,aac,mp2,mp3,voicelossy,voicelossless]
$ gconftool-2 -a /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/voicelossy
 active = true
 description = Used for converting to lossy voice-quality audio. Use this for recording speech that doesn't need to be edited.
 pipeline = audio/x-raw-int,rate=32000,channels=1 ! speexenc name=enc ! oggmux
 extension = spx
 name = Voice, Lossy
$

What do you get?

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 22:55 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:31:03 -0700, MS (Matthew) wrote:
> > > > > Is the  libgnome-media-profiles  package installed and complete?
> > > >
> > > > Looks that way.
> > > >     $ rpm -q libgnome-media-profiles
> > > >     libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-1.fc15.x86_64
> > > >     $ rpm -qVV libgnome-media-profiles
> > >
> > > Is the problem reproducible with a fresh user account?
> >
> > Yes.
> > > Do other apps show any GNOME Audio Profiles? E.g. "soundconverter"?
> >
> > No.  Soundconverter shows several options for Type of Result, but if I
> > select GNOME Audio Profile, the Profile selector is blank and grayed
> > out.
>
> Try some GConf queries, such as:
>
> $ gconftool-2 --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list
> [cdlossy,cdlossless,aac,mp2,mp3,voicelossy,voicelossless]
> $ gconftool-2 -a /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/voicelossy
>  active = true
>  description = Used for converting to lossy voice-quality audio. Use this for recording speech that doesn't need to be edited.
>  pipeline = audio/x-raw-int,rate=32000,channels=1 ! speexenc name=enc ! oggmux
>  extension = spx
>  name = Voice, Lossy
> $
>
> What do you get?

Sorry, was traveling.  Here's what I get for those queries:

$ gconftool-2
        --get /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/global/profile_list
        []
        $ gconftool-2
        -a /system/gstreamer/0.10/audio/profiles/voicelossy
        active = true
        description = Used for converting to lossy voice-quality audio.
        Use this for recording speech that doesn't need to be edited.
        pipeline = audio/x-raw-int,rate=32000,channels=1 ! speexenc
        name=enc ! oggmux
        extension = spx
        name = Voice, Lossy

I'd say the first is another manifestation of the same symptom.
>