Strange grub behavior w/new 2.6.22.1-41 kernel

[Casey Stamper]

I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix in
menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest kernel
the default.

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Casey Stamper 
http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress

[Nathan Grennan]

Casey Stamper wrote:
>  I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
>  updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
>  kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix in
>  menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest kernel
>  the default.
>     
  I have seen the same issue, but have no idea what is causing it. 
grub.conf looks fine, nothing special.

[Frank Elsner]

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:55:01 +0200 Casey Stamper wrote:
>  I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
>  updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
>  kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix in
>  menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest kernel
>  the default. 
You can tune this within file /etc/sysconfig/kernel

Mine reads

# UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
# new kernels the default
UPDATEDEFAULT=yes

# DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type
DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel


--Frank Elsner

[Casey Stamper]

On 8/2/07, Frank Elsner <Frank.Elsner(a)tu-berlin.de&gt; wrote:
>  On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:55:01 +0200 Casey Stamper wrote:
>  > I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
>  > updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
>  > kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix in
>  > menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest
>  kernel
>  > the default.
>
>  You can tune this within file /etc/sysconfig/kernel
>
>  Mine reads
>
>  # UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
>  # new kernels the default
>  UPDATEDEFAULT=yes
>
>  # DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type
>  DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel
>
>
>  --Frank Elsner
>
>  
That's nice to know but why did the supposedly default behavior change?
I've
been through several kernel updates on this machine and IIRC, they booted
from the newest kernel upon restart (although I *could* be wrong on this). I
know FC6 booted the newest. I run a lot of different distros so maybe my
last two or three kernel updates on F7 are getting mixed up in my mind w/the
default behavior of other distros. I'll definitely pay closer attention to
it next time and tweak /etc/sysconfig/kernel if necessary.

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Casey Stamper
http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress

[Jim van Wel]

Hi there,

Well, I updated it today, and everything was standard installed, and it
just went fine, also selecting default the newest kernel. So maybe you
changed something?

Greetings,
Jim.

>  On 8/2/07, Frank Elsner <Frank.Elsner(a)tu-berlin.de&gt; wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:55:01 +0200 Casey Stamper wrote:
> > > I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
> > > updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
> > > kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix
> > in
> > > menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest
> > kernel
> > > the default.
> >
> > You can tune this within file /etc/sysconfig/kernel
> >
> > Mine reads
> >
> > # UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
> > # new kernels the default
> > UPDATEDEFAULT=yes
> >
> > # DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type
> > DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel
> >
> >
> > --Frank Elsner
> >
> >
>  That's nice to know but why did the supposedly default behavior change?
>  I've
>  been through several kernel updates on this machine and IIRC, they booted
>  from the newest kernel upon restart (although I *could* be wrong on this).
>  I
>  know FC6 booted the newest. I run a lot of different distros so maybe my
>  last two or three kernel updates on F7 are getting mixed up in my mind
>  w/the
>  default behavior of other distros. I'll definitely pay closer attention to
>  it next time and tweak /etc/sysconfig/kernel if necessary.
>
>  --
>  Casey Stamper
>  http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress
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[Casey Stamper]

>  > On 8/2/07, Frank Elsner <Frank.Elsner(a)tu-berlin.de&gt; wrote:
>  >>
>  >> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 18:55:01 +0200 Casey Stamper wrote:
>  >> > I got home today and updated my laptop w/the latest kernel and other
>  >> > updates. When I rebooted, grub automtically went back to the previous
>  >> > kernel. I had to manually choose the new one. It's easy enough to fix
>  >> in
>  >> > menu.lst but I thought the default behaviour was to make the latest
>  >> kernel
>  >> > the default.
>  >>
>  >> You can tune this within file /etc/sysconfig/kernel
>  >>
>  >> Mine reads
>  >>
>  >> # UPDATEDEFAULT specifies if new-kernel-pkg should make
>  >> # new kernels the default
>  >> UPDATEDEFAULT=yes
>  >>
>  >> # DEFAULTKERNEL specifies the default kernel package type
>  >> DEFAULTKERNEL=kernel
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> --Frank Elsner
>  >>
>  >>
>  > That's nice to know but why did the supposedly default behavior change?
>  > I've
>  > been through several kernel updates on this machine and IIRC, they
>  booted
>  > from the newest kernel upon restart (although I *could* be wrong on
>  this).
>  > I
>  > know FC6 booted the newest. I run a lot of different distros so maybe my
>  > last two or three kernel updates on F7 are getting mixed up in my mind
>  > w/the
>  > default behavior of other distros. I'll definitely pay closer attention
>  to
>  > it next time and tweak /etc/sysconfig/kernel if necessary.
>  >
>
>
>  On 8/2/07, Jim van Wel <jim(a)coolzero.info&gt; wrote:Hi there,
>
>  Well, I updated it today, and everything was standard installed, and it
>  just went fine, also selecting default the newest kernel. So maybe you
>  changed something?
>
>  Greetings,
>  Jim. 

That's odd. I've never messed with /etc/sysconfig/kernel but the old kernel
was definitely the default after installation of the new kernel. I didn't
change anything after the install/update - just rebooted to test the new
kernel (which I had to select manually).


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Casey Stamper
http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress

[Andy Green]

Somebody in the thread at some point said:

>  That's odd. I've never messed with /etc/sysconfig/kernel but
> the old
>  kernel was definitely the default after installation of the new kernel.
>  I didn't change anything after the install/update - just rebooted to
>  test the new kernel (which I had to select manually). 
I've seen this happen sometimes over the past few years.

There's a little utility called "grubby" which has the job of creating
new stanzas in /boot/grub/grub.conf by inheriting the old default
stanza.  Maybe due to edits, blank lines or whatever in grub.conf it
loses its count of stanzas or somesuch.

-Andy

[Casey Stamper]

On 8/2/07, Andy Green <andy(a)warmcat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>
>  > That's odd. I've never messed with /etc/sysconfig/kernel but the old
>  > kernel was definitely the default after installation of the new kernel.
>  > I didn't change anything after the install/update - just rebooted to
>  > test the new kernel (which I had to select manually).
>
>  I've seen this happen sometimes over the past few years.
>
>  There's a little utility called "grubby" which has the job of creating
>  new stanzas in /boot/grub/grub.conf by inheriting the old default
>  stanza.  Maybe due to edits, blank lines or whatever in grub.conf it
>  loses its count of stanzas or somesuch.
>
>  -Andy 

I've had it delete my WinXP stanza before but this is just weird. Like I
said - not a big deal but definitely unexpected.

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Casey Stamper
http://www.stampersite.com/wordpress

[Nathan Grennan]

Jim van Wel wrote:
>  Hi there,
>
>  Well, I updated it today, and everything was standard installed, and it
>  just went fine, also selecting default the newest kernel. So maybe you
>  changed something?
>
>     
  No, the grub.conf was perfect, as was /etc/sysconfig/kernel. This 
morning I rebooted again and it did go to -41. The only difference is 
when I rebooted it twice yesterday I did it remotely with init 6 as 
root. When I did it this morning I did it via the shutdown/restart 
option in Gnome.