Hi,
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver. The laptop runs generally fine but from version 30. It became slow to startup X and to get to the login screen. After you login on 30 it takes longer to start desktop then it used to, but it comes up and works fine. If i upgrade to 31, it takes a real long time to get to the X login screen and after I login all I get is a grey background. In this mode vty's are dead also. I have upgraded and reinstalled several times. Interestingly on one occasion I was able to login to 31 after a long delay and upgrade from 31 and I upgraded to rawhide and that worked except there were other application issues that made it a no go for me. After a number of reinstalls and upgrade tests Fedora 31 will usually not work correctly for me. Any thoughts? This laptop has been running Fedora since the day after it was purchased in 2018 with no problems.
inxi -GxxSMza System: Host: localhost.localdomain Kernel: 5.3.16-200.fc30.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.2.1 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,gpt2)/vmlinuz-5.3.16-200.fc30.x86_64 root=UUID=b6536622-cf7c-4017-a3ef-3d3787173fb2 ro resume=/dev/mapper/luks-323281ed-242f-40db-85cb-75ab350dbb43 rd.lvm.lv=fedora/root rd.luks.uuid=luks-9df55de6-b8fe-4b3a-a5d3-6f0005285968 rd.lvm.lv=fedora/swap rd.luks.uuid=luks-323281ed-242f-40db-85cb-75ab350dbb43 rhgb quiet Desktop: Gnome 3.32.2 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM Distro: Fedora release 30 (Thirty) Machine: Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP Spectre x360 Convertible 15-ch0xx v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 31 serial: <filter> Mobo: HP model: 83BA v: 57.20 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: F.04 date: 01/23/2018 Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917 Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d10 Display: wayland server: Fedora Project X.org 1.20.5 driver: nouveau compositor: gnome-shell resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 19.1.8 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide,
Brian
On 1/22/20 3:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:27 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver.
AFAIK Nouveau is for Nvidia GPUs, not for Intel integrated graphics.
That was my first thought as well, but if you look at the included system information, he has both. It's a hybrid system. I've strictly avoided those, so I'm unable offer any further help.
Believe me, I am with you on avoiding them. Unfortunately, it was one of the few 4k laptops that had the integrated graphics at a reasonable cost with an I7. I have been looking to replace it and nobody seems to be giving you that trio these days. I would love a ryzen 7 but that only comes with really middle of the road hardware.
Thanks anyway,
Brian
On 1/22/20 4:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 1/22/20 3:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:27 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver.
AFAIK Nouveau is for Nvidia GPUs, not for Intel integrated graphics.
That was my first thought as well, but if you look at the included system information, he has both. It's a hybrid system. I've strictly avoided those, so I'm unable offer any further help. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 01/22/2020 04:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:27 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver.
AFAIK Nouveau is for Nvidia GPUs, not for Intel integrated graphics.
Yes. If the OP is actually using the nouveau driver, that's probably what's causing all the problems.
On 2020-01-23 07:19, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:27 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver.
AFAIK Nouveau is for Nvidia GPUs, not for Intel integrated graphics.
Well, his inxi output does show his system has both....
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915
and
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d10
But contrary to what he states about X, we also see...
Display: wayland server: Fedora Project X.org 1.20.5 driver: nouveau
So, I wonder if he could disable one of the devices and see if there is a difference. Potentially also disable Wayland in the /etc/gdm/custom.conf
Hi,
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
Brian
On 1/22/20 4:10 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-23 07:19, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 13:27 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
I have an Hp Spectre 360 from 2018 with intel integrated graphics. I am using nouveau driver.
AFAIK Nouveau is for Nvidia GPUs, not for Intel integrated graphics.
Well, his inxi output does show his system has both....
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915
and
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX150] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d10
But contrary to what he states about X, we also see...
Display: wayland server: Fedora Project X.org 1.20.5 driver: nouveau
So, I wonder if he could disable one of the devices and see if there is a difference. Potentially also disable Wayland in the /etc/gdm/custom.conf
On 2020-01-23 09:05, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
The primary display may be running Wayland and not Xorg.
Which I why I suggested disabling Wayland in GDM. Of course I am assuming you're using gdm/GNOME.
Hi,
Thanks, I have tried all the different login options. I received the grey screen, no matter what. If nouveau is crashing, who do I report it to ? Fedora Bugzilla ?
Thanks,
Brian
On 1/22/20 5:38 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-23 09:05, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Hi,
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
The primary display may be running Wayland and not Xorg.
Which I why I suggested disabling Wayland in GDM. Of course I am assuming you're using gdm/GNOME.
-- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
On 2020-01-23 09:42, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Thanks, I have tried all the different login options. I received the grey screen, no matter what. If nouveau is crashing, who do I report it to ? Fedora Bugzilla ?
Yes, to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g.
modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau
Try editing the boot menu entry by hitting 'e' when the menu appears at boot, then adding the above to the line starting 'linux' and hit Ctrl-x
If this works, the problem is with the Nouveau driver.
poc
Thanks, I can try that, but as I posted from dmesg multiple crashes inside. Did you see that in my email?
Thanks Brian
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g.
modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau
Try editing the boot menu entry by hitting 'e' when the menu appears at boot, then adding the above to the line starting 'linux' and hit Ctrl-x
If this works, the problem is with the Nouveau driver.
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g.
modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau
The other option would be to try the binary nvidia drivers from RPM Fusion. I've used them for years for good deinterlacing of 1080i TV with MythTV and light gaming.
Thanks, Richard
Hi, If I blacklist what will be my driver? Thanks.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 9:24 AM Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote:
Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ?
You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g.
modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau
The other option would be to try the binary nvidia drivers from RPM Fusion. I've used them for years for good deinterlacing of 1080i TV with MythTV and light gaming.
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On 2020-01-24 05:06, Brian Domenick wrote:
Hi, If I blacklist what will be my driver? Thanks.
Should be using
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917
So, i915 and Intel HW.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 9:24 AM Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@gmail.com mailto:hobbes1069@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com <mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote: > Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not > on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ? You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g. modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau The other option would be to try the binary nvidia drivers from RPM Fusion. I've used them for years for good deinterlacing of 1080i TV with MythTV and light gaming. Thanks, Richard _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Thank you, that solved my delayed login in 30. I updated using grubby the boot menu. I am now in the process of upgrading to 31 and optimistic. Thanks to all.
Brian
On 1/23/20 1:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-24 05:06, Brian Domenick wrote:
Hi, If I blacklist what will be my driver? Thanks.
Should be using
Graphics: Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 620 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5917
So, i915 and Intel HW.
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 9:24 AM Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@gmail.com mailto:hobbes1069@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:22 AM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com <mailto:pocallaghan@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, 2020-01-22 at 17:05 -0800, Mr Brian Domenick wrote: > Thanks, I know on some laptops you can bios disable the nvidia, but not > on this one. What is showing thats contrary to what I said ? You can blacklist the Nouveau driver in the kernel boot line using e.g. modprobe.blacklist=nouveau rd.blacklist=nouveau The other option would be to try the binary nvidia drivers from RPM Fusion. I've used them for years for good deinterlacing of 1080i TV with MythTV and light gaming. Thanks, Richard _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Brian, FWIW, I'm running my single HDMI-via-dock-connected UHD display at 3840x2160@30Hz out of the Fedora 31 box with Wayland on a Dell Latitude 5500 with Intel UHD Graphics 620 and a Core i5-8365U.
----8<---- $ sudo lshw -class video *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: UHD Graphics 620 (Whiskey Lake) vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 resources: irq:130 memory:90000000-90ffffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:3000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff $ xrandr --query | head -3 Screen 0: minimum 16 x 16, current 3840 x 2160, maximum 32767 x 32767 XWAYLAND1 connected 3840x2160+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 710mm x 400mm 3840x2160 29.98*+ ----8<----
Don't explect much of unaccelerated UHD video or 3D performance.
While I've not used it for some time, I've had many years of good results from Nvidia's proprietary driver, however it relied on 32 bit components which would be unsuitable today.
Thanks to all who assisted me. I am now running Fedora 31 on Intel graphic with i915 driver. I blacklisted permanently with grubby Nouveau and that resolved my issue with upgrading on slowness for login to come up in fedora 30 and 31 and grey screen after login in 31.
Brian
On 1/23/20 2:50 PM, Andrew J. Caines wrote:
Brian, FWIW, I'm running my single HDMI-via-dock-connected UHD display at 3840x2160@30Hz out of the Fedora 31 box with Wayland on a Dell Latitude 5500 with Intel UHD Graphics 620 and a Core i5-8365U.
----8<---- $ sudo lshw -class video *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: UHD Graphics 620 (Whiskey Lake) vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: 02 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 resources: irq:130 memory:90000000-90ffffff memory:80000000-8fffffff ioport:3000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff $ xrandr --query | head -3 Screen 0: minimum 16 x 16, current 3840 x 2160, maximum 32767 x 32767 XWAYLAND1 connected 3840x2160+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 710mm x 400mm 3840x2160 29.98*+ ----8<----
Don't explect much of unaccelerated UHD video or 3D performance.
While I've not used it for some time, I've had many years of good results from Nvidia's proprietary driver, however it relied on 32 bit components which would be unsuitable today.