Greetings ,
Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word Processor of OpenOffice . It just seem to crash a bit after i try to execute it without a message or something . Anybody knows what might be going wrong here :
openoffice.org-ooolatex-4.0.0-0.8.beta2.fc14.1.x86_64 openoffice.org-emailmerge-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-calc-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-el_GR-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-draw-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-en-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-writer-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.noarch openoffice.org-extendedPDF-1.4-10.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-impress-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-math-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-base-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-wiki-publisher-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-pyuno-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-javafilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-voikko-3.1.2-1.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-pl_PL-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-impress-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-presentation-minimizer-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-de-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-writer-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-base-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-ure-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-presenter-screen-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-fr-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-graphicfilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-ru-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-it-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-calc-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-ogltrans-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-brand-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-report-builder-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-math-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-xsltfilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-draw-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64
This is a Fedora 14 installation with the latest updates applied As it is obvious it´s the 64 bit version and the kernel is 2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
Greetings ,
Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word Processor of OpenOffice . It just seem to crash a bit after i try to execute it without a message or something . ...
try this first (as root): # yum check # rpm -V openoffice.org-writer
JB
On Sat, 2011-01-29 at 22:00 +0200, Kostas Sfakiotakis wrote:
Greetings ,
Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word Processor of OpenOffice .
... Here is a comparison of what you have and what I have. Obviously there are some options... the leftmost items are unique to your installation, the indented items are common to both. I haven't had any difficulties. openoffice.org-base-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-base-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-brand-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-calc-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-calc-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-draw-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-draw-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-emailmerge-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-extendedPDF-1.4-10.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-graphicfilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-impress-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-impress-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-javafilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-de-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-el_GR-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-en-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-fr-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-it-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-pl_PL-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-langpack-ru-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-math-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-math-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-ogltrans-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-ooolatex-4.0.0-0.8.beta2.fc14.1.x86_64 openoffice.org-opensymbol-fonts-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.noarch openoffice.org-pdfimport-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-presentation-minimizer-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-presenter-screen-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-pyuno-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-report-builder-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-ure-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-voikko-3.1.2-1.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-wiki-publisher-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-writer-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-writer-core-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64 openoffice.org-xsltfilter-3.3.0-19.2.fc14.x86_64
Good luck Bill
2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2.
On 29/01/2011 11:04 μμ, JB wrote:
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
Greetings ,
Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word Processor of OpenOffice . It just seem to crash a bit after i try to execute it without a message or something . ...
try this first (as root):
# yum check
I did and guess what ? i got what seems to be an error of something like that
[root@Orion ~]# yum check Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding el_GR to language list suck-4.3.2-31.fc14.x86_64 has installed conflicts leafnode: leafnode-1.11.7-4.fc12.x86_64 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what is this story about ?
Error: check all
Now trying the check all thing
[root@Orion ~]# yum check all Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding el_GR to language list suck-4.3.2-31.fc14.x86_64 has installed conflicts leafnode: leafnode-1.11.7-4.fc12.x86_64 Error: check ['all']
# rpm -V openoffice.org-writer
This one returns nothing . I guess tha means that it checks out fine
JB
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
On 29/01/2011 11:04 μμ, JB wrote:
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
Greetings ,
Lately i have been having a lot of issues running the Word Processor of OpenOffice . It just seem to crash a bit after i try to execute it without a message or something . ...
try this first (as root):
# yum check
I did and guess what ? i got what seems to be an error of something like that
[root <at> Orion ~]# yum check Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding el_GR to language list suck-4.3.2-31.fc14.x86_64 has installed conflicts leafnode: leafnode-1.11.7-4.fc12.x86_64 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
what is this story about ?
Error: check all
Now trying the check all thing
[root <at> Orion ~]# yum check all Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit Adding el_GR to language list suck-4.3.2-31.fc14.x86_64 has installed conflicts leafnode: leafnode-1.11.7-4.fc12.x86_64 Error: check ['all']
This is not related to OpenOffice. You can fix that later. You can get some clue with these: $ man package-cleanup # package-cleanup --orphans # package-cleanup --problems # package-cleanup --dupes # package-cleanup --leaves Do not rush to remove packages shown there immediately (it may be even dangerous to do it - they are not foolproof).
In case of packages suck and leafnode, if you do not use them in particular, just try to remove them, and eventually reinstall them again, by which they are supposed to clean themselves up: # yum remove suck # yum remove leafnode
# rpm -V openoffice.org-writer
This one returns nothing . I guess tha means that it checks out fine
JB
Now with regard to OpenOffice. I would suggest that you reinstall Writer: # yum reinstall openoffice.org-writer
If that does not help, reinstall all your OO packages: # yum reinstall openoffice.org-*
Tell us how you start your OO Writer when you get the error ? What desktop are you on: GNOME, KDE, etc ? - from the menu ? If so, what is in that menu's launcher ? Applications - Office - OpenOffice.org Writer right click your mouse on OpenOffice.org Writer and select "Add this launcher to panel" Then on the panel right click on the OO Writer icon, click properties and tell us what is in Launcher Properties. - from the panel ? check properties as above - from the command line ?
Just to make sure that you do not have any OO executable leftovers. Please show us the output: $ ps aux |grep -i office
JB
On 30/01/2011 01:29 πμ, JB wrote:
< snip >
Now with regard to OpenOffice. I would suggest that you reinstall Writer: # yum reinstall openoffice.org-writer
If that does not help, reinstall all your OO packages: # yum reinstall openoffice.org-*
Tell us how you start your OO Writer when you get the error ?
In any way i try to run it . For example if i download a document through firefox and then ask it to open the file then Writer will crash . Mainly i would be worried about the fact that when i do the following Writer crashes
I start by pressing the f ( on the lower left corner ( yes by the way it is the KDE desktop ) ) then i move on to the Applications tab then to Office then to OpenOffice.org and finally to Writer .
What desktop are you on: GNOME, KDE, etc ?
Am using KDE ( perhaps this will be of assistance kdebase-4.5.5-1.fc14.x86_64 )
- from the menu ?
Yes from the menu .
If so, what is in that menu's launcher ?
Yes
Applications - Office - OpenOffice.org Writer
That´s the path .
right click your mouse on OpenOffice.org Writer and select "Add this launcher to panel"
A small problem here . I don´t get the option add this launcher to panel but just "Add to Panel" assuming that was the intended option.
Then on the panel right click on the OO Writer icon, click properties
A small problem here , i don´t have any properties option so am assuming "Icon Settings"
and tell us what is in Launcher Properties. - from the panel ?
The command that get´s executed is
openoffice.org -writer %U ( from the Panel )
check properties as above - from the command line ?
am not sure how do i do that .
Just to make sure that you do not have any OO executable leftovers.
Please show us the output: $ ps aux |grep -i office
Writer fired up normally ( from the panel ) and i got
[root@Orion ~]# ps aux |grep -i office root 3453 0.0 0.0 106204 1380 ? S 11:08 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/soffice -quickstart -nologo -nodefault root 3484 0.1 2.6 1034528 102248 ? Sl 11:08 0:02 /usr/lib64/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin -quickstart -nologo -nodefault root 5917 0.0 0.0 103420 852 pts/1 S+ 11:34 0:00 grep --color=auto -i office
The bogus thing here is that for some reason today for example i can use Writer , tomorrow after some updates i can´t and then again after some more updates i will probably be able to use Writer again . Now Writer seems to be working normally .
On a sidenote here , although it is quite irrelevant i have to add that i did an
"rpmdb --rebuild" last night after your last email since i was under the impression that something wasn´t going all that well with the rpm database .
Anyway could u please remind me the command in order to see the last updates ?
JB
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
...
Tell us how you start your OO Writer when you get the error ?
In any way i try to run it . For example if i download a document through firefox and then ask it to open the file then Writer will crash .
Leave this case for later.
Mainly i would be worried about the fact that when i do the following Writer crashes
I start by pressing the f ( on the lower left corner ( yes by the way it is the KDE desktop ) ) then i move on to the Applications tab then to Office then to OpenOffice.org and finally to Writer .
I undestand this will crash sometimes. I will come back to it in next post.
What desktop are you on: GNOME, KDE, etc ?
Am using KDE ( perhaps this will be of assistance kdebase-4.5.5-1.fc14.x86_64 ) ... The command that get´s executed is
openoffice.org -writer %U ( from the Panel )
This is OK. Btw, I am in GNOME desktop, but I see you can find things I asked for in KDE.
... The bogus thing here is that for some reason today for example i can use Writer , tomorrow after some updates i can´t and then again after some more updates i will probably be able to use Writer again . Now Writer seems to be working normally . ...
Do this to update and clean up your machine: # yum distro-sync
If you can, reboot your machine (this will restart your desktop as well) to reinitialize various dynamic libraries paths, etc.
On a sidenote here , although it is quite irrelevant i have to add that i did an
"rpmdb --rebuild" last night after your last email since i was under the impression that something wasn´t going all that well with the rpm database .
That's fine.
... Anyway could u please remind me the command in order to see the last updates ?
# ls -al /var/log/yum* # less /var/log/yum
JB
On 30/01/2011 12:37 μμ, JB wrote:
This is OK. Btw, I am in GNOME desktop, but I see you can find things I asked for in KDE.
Well , you pointed the way , beyond that there was only one place to go , so i didn´t actually discovered the New World . Well the fact that you are using Gnome would explain this small differences .
... The bogus thing here is that for some reason today for example i can use Writer , tomorrow after some updates i can´t and then again after some more updates i will probably be able to use Writer again . Now Writer seems to be working normally . ...
Do this to update and clean up your machine: # yum distro-sync
If you can, reboot your machine (this will restart your desktop as well) to reinitialize various dynamic libraries paths, etc.
On a sidenote here , although it is quite irrelevant i have to add that i did an
"rpmdb --rebuild" last night after your last email since i was under the impression that something wasn´t going all that well with the rpm database .
That's fine.
... Anyway could u please remind me the command in order to see the last updates ?
# ls -al /var/log/yum* # less /var/log/yum
Well yes if i open the yum.log with an editor and go to the bottom i will find the last updates . The idea was that maybe a couple of updates that were done last night might have fixed something but i don´t think that they were relevant .
Jan 30 00:49:24 Updated: libgpod-0.8.0-3.fc14.x86_64 Jan 30 00:49:26 Updated: python-gpod-0.8.0-3.fc14.x86_64 Jan 30 00:49:33 Updated: 3:gnome-commander-1.2.8.10-1.fc14.x86_64 Jan 30 00:49:34 Updated: libgpod-sharp-0.8.0-3.fc14.x86_64 Jan 30 11:48:48 Erased: suck
These are the last updates but i don´t think that they might be the case although that second package is python stuff which would make it a cousine of yum since yum is python too.
OK , going for that disto-sync.
JB
On 30/01/2011 12:37 μμ, JB wrote:
# yum distro-sync
Well i used this command twice , the first time i just exited X Windows and issued the command on runlevel 3 and then i rebooted the computer and run the command for a second time . All that happened was
Jan 30 16:28:36 Updated: kdebase-workspace-debuginfo-4.5.5-2.fc14.x86_64
which means that some debug symbols were updated . I guess that´s not what u were hoping for ( you were probably assuming that there is a chance that some packages were conflicting with others or with the system and that would cause some erratic behaviour ) . Anyway Writer is still firing up smoothly as it was originally supposed to do and that´s a good thing ( i guess ) .
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
On 30/01/2011 12:37 μμ, JB wrote:
# yum distro-sync ...
It has done what is supposed to do and the result is a good sign.
Let me go back, as promised, to this problem.
In any way i try to run it . For example if i download a document through firefox and then ask it to open the file then Writer will crash .
Can you experience this now ?
Try in Firefox to download a doc formatted document, e.g. from this site: http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c804361...
When I do this is displays a dialog window like this: ... What should Firefox do with this file ? <radio control> Open with <selection control> In this <selection control> select OpenOffice.org Writer (default) and click OK.
You should see document being downloaded and OO Writer being called to display the document.
Does it work ?
JB
On 30/01/2011 05:04 μμ, JB wrote:
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
Let me go back, as promised, to this problem.
In any way i try to run it . For example if i download a document through firefox and then ask it to open the file then Writer will crash .
Can you experience this now
Try in Firefox to download a doc formatted document, e.g. from this site:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/4/e/3/4e3eace0-4c6d-4123-9d0c-c804361...
First things first . No crashes by any means either the launcher we placed earlier or from the menus or from the download .
When I do this is displays a dialog window like this:
... What should Firefox do with this file ? <radio control> Open with <selection control> In this <selection control> select OpenOffice.org Writer (default) and click OK.
Same here .
You should see document being downloaded and OO Writer being called to display the document.
Does it work ?
All the way , nice and smoothly as it was designed to do . The sidenote here would be that it asks me whether i want to keep the same format or change it to the odt format but that´s not what u were asking .
Kostas Sfakiotakis <kostassf <at> cha.forthnet.gr> writes:
...
Does it work ?
All the way , nice and smoothly as it was designed to do .
OK.
The sidenote here would be that it asks me whether i want to keep the same format or change it to the odt format but that´s not what u were asking .
The above (ODT vice DOC formats) is internal to OO Writer.
Now, make a note somewhere.
If you suddenly experience a problem with OO Writer again, do the following to debug it: $ strace openoffice.org -writer or to capture the debugging output to a file $ strace -o strace.oo-writer.debug openoffice.org -writer and analyze it or post the debugging output to the list here.
You are set.
JB
On 30/01/2011 05:32 μμ, JB wrote:
Now, make a note somewhere.
If you suddenly experience a problem with OO Writer again, do the following to debug it:
$ strace openoffice.org -writer or to capture the debugging output to a file $ strace -o strace.oo-writer.debug openoffice.org -writer and analyze it
or post the debugging output to the list here.
You are set.
Ok , thanks for your time. ( Your email has been saved for further reference ) .
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William Stock