what java RPM?

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

Hi,
I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
any yum or at least RPM packaging. 
I know the sun website provides some rpm.
What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
serious.

What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?

Most of the people arroud me use the sun java. I would like to have a
pretty similar way of byte compiling (just javac), so that I can follow
the teaching. Dont want something exotic... :-)

Thank you.

[Colin J Thomson]

On Saturday 03 Sep 2005 22:19, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> any yum or at least RPM packaging.
> I know the sun website provides some rpm.
> What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
> serious.
>
> What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?
>
> Most of the people arroud me use the sun java. I would like to have a
> pretty similar way of byte compiling (just javac), so that I can follow
> the teaching. Dont want something exotic... :-)

I think you should read this _Excellent_ article by Paul Howarth:

http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/JPackage_Java_for_FC4

Very clear instructions and works very well indeed :-)

HTH

-Colin

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Sa, den 03.09.2005 schrieb Rakotomandimby Mihamina um 23:19:
> I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> any yum or at least RPM packaging. 
> I know the sun website provides some rpm.
> What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
> serious.
>
> What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?
>
> Most of the people arroud me use the sun java. I would like to have a
> pretty similar way of byte compiling (just javac), so that I can follow
> the teaching. Dont want something exotic... :-)

http://www.fedorafaq.org/#java

A very good and comprehensive article is:

http://fedoranews.org/mediawiki/index.php/JPackage_Java_for_FC4

In the non-free section of http://www.jpackage.org/ you'll find other
skeleton nonsrc.rpms, for Blackdown's version, IBM's ... I would choose
Sun's 1.5.

Alexander

On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> Hi,
> I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> any yum or at least RPM packaging. 
> I know the sun website provides some rpm.
> What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
> serious.
>
> What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?

Currently we are using Sun's latest tarball which works well for us. I
did not remember their having an rpm but maybe my memory is going.

[Thufir]

On 9/4/05, [e-mail]  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> > any yum or at least RPM packaging.
> > I know the sun website provides some rpm.
> > What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
> > serious.
> >
> > What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?
>
> Currently we are using Sun's latest tarball which works well for us. I
> did not remember their having an rpm but maybe my memory is going.

I was very excited, when installing FC4 yesterday to discover that
java development tools are now an option under Anaconda.  I was less
than thrilled to discover what I'm using :(

[thufir@localhost ~]$ java --version
java version "1.4.2"
gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.0 20050519 (Red Hat 4.0.0-8)

Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[thufir@localhost ~]$

=Thufir

[Matthew Saltzman]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, THUFIR HAWAT wrote:
> On 9/4/05, [e-mail]  wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:19:45PM +0200, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> > > any yum or at least RPM packaging.
> > > I know the sun website provides some rpm.
> > > What about it? it's just for college/studies use, nothing really
> > > serious.
> > >
> > > What about Jikes, Blackdown,... what do you use?
> >
> > Currently we are using Sun's latest tarball which works well for us. I
> > did not remember their having an rpm but maybe my memory is going.
>
> I was very excited, when installing FC4 yesterday to discover that
> java development tools are now an option under Anaconda.  I was less
> than thrilled to discover what I'm using :(
>
> [thufir@localhost ~]$ java --version
> java version "1.4.2"
> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.0 20050519 (Red Hat 4.0.0-8)
>
> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
> [thufir@localhost ~]$

Most Javas are not FOSS, so can't be distributed with FC.  See 
jpackage.org for Java (http://www.fedorafaq.org/#java).
> =Thufir

[Thufir]

On 11/8/05, Matthew Saltzman  wrote:
..
> Most Javas are not FOSS, so can't be distributed with FC.  See
> jpackage.org for Java (http://www.fedorafaq.org/#java).

..

I know.  What I meant was that when I saw the java option in anaconda
I jumped the gun and thought that the Sun JDK was being distributed,
hence my dissapointment :(

-Thufir

[Andrew Overholt]

* THUFIR HAWAT  [2005-11-08 16:08]:
> I was very excited, when installing FC4 yesterday to discover that
> java development tools are now an option under Anaconda.  I was less
> than thrilled to discover what I'm using :(
>
> [thufir@localhost ~]$ java --version
> java version "1.4.2"
> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.0 20050519 (Red Hat 4.0.0-8)

Why were you disappointed?  Did something not work as you expected?

Andrew

[Andrew Overholt]

* Rakotomandimby Mihamina  [2005-09-03 17:43]:
> I need to install Java on my FC4. I dont want to install it outside of
> any yum or at least RPM packaging.

Is what Fedora provides not suitable?
> Most of the people arroud me use the sun java. I would like to have a
> pretty similar way of byte compiling (just javac), so that I can follow
> the teaching. Dont want something exotic... :-)

/usr/bin/javac is symlinked to ecj (the Eclipse bytecode compiler) in FC.
It shouldn't pose any problems.  /usr/bin/java is symlinked to gij (the GNU
interpreter).

Andrew