New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
Thanks
Nikkita
On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 12:57 -0400, Nikkita Miles wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
poc
On 07/03/2015 12:57 PM, Nikkita Miles wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop
you can leave windows & make it a dual-boot system if you want.. never know when you might NEED windows...
Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use
there is no best, only what suits you best.. KDE is the BIGGEST, size-wise, and maybe the most windows-like. I use MATE desktop, it just suits me best.
Need suggestion on how to begin
you will need to either shrink your windows partition, using a windows program, or blow it all away & install fedora, your choice..
Need complete step thru process
the downloaded DVD will walk you through the entire installation, item-by-item. there is an installation guide on the website:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/Installation_Guide/
Real new to conversion process
On 07/03/2015 10:36 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
there is no best, only what suits you best.. KDE is the BIGGEST, size-wise, and maybe the most windows-like. I use MATE desktop, it just suits me best.
If you want the old-school Windows look, it's real easy to get Xfce looking just the way you want. And, if it's important, it's a very lightweight DE.
On 07/03/2015 11:36 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 07/03/2015 12:57 PM, Nikkita Miles wrote:
Need suggestion on how to begin
you will need to either shrink your windows partition, using a windows program, or blow it all away & install fedora, your choice..
I have an old Windows (Not made by MS) program that safely shrinks windows partitions. It is called partition magic. It is no longer available in stores. If you do find it online, be prepared to shell out some bucks!! There is a Free prog that does the same thing: http://www.partition-tool.com/
Windows 7 itself can shrink NTFS volumes just fine. What it doesn't do (or I haven't figure out how to do it) is grow them.
And also Fedora includes ntfsprogs which can shrink NTFS volumes. It marks the fs dirty so the next time Windows boots it will want to chkdsk the volume, which is normal. The Fedora installer uses this when it's asked to shrink Windows volumes.
Chris Murphy
On 07/03/2015 12:15 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
Windows 7 itself can shrink NTFS volumes just fine. What it doesn't do (or I haven't figure out how to do it) is grow them.
And also Fedora includes ntfsprogs which can shrink NTFS volumes. It marks the fs dirty so the next time Windows boots it will want to chkdsk the volume, which is normal. The Fedora installer uses this when it's asked to shrink Windows volumes.
Chris Murphy
I have never used windows 7 built-in partition shrinker nor parted, nor the fedora installer Anaconda to shrink a windows partition - but might try them next time.
On 2015-07-03 12:57, Nikkita Miles wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
If you don't already know what flavor of Fedora you want, I would *strongly* recommend that you download the live images of several (definitely the "main" gnome image and probably the KDE spin; maybe also the xfce and/or lxde spins too) and play with them for a while to get a feel for which you like best *before* you make any changes to your system.
(That said... you *can* install a different desktop later, but you'll get best results installing the "right" one from the get-go. Also, focus on the desktop experience, not issues like what web browser or office suite is used for a particular spin, as it's very easy to install different ones later. Or, if you have lots of RAM, you can install additional software in the live session... you'll get a clean slate when you reboot, though, unless you set up a USB stick with a persistent overlay.)
As far as the process, if you don't care about keeping your existing Windows install and dual-booting, the installer is pretty straight forward.
On 07/03/15 11:57, Nikkita Miles wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
as mentioned, you may well need to shrink win7 partition, but be aware that you will have problems due to locked directories and files.
reason i know this is because i recently installed linux to a laptop and ran into shrinking problems due to locked directories and files.
there are several ways to go about setting up laptop for dual booting.
1- wipe hdd and install win7 as new, loosing all you have built up. 2- run recovery program to maintain current win7 to maintain current setup and files.
after several attempts to shrink win7 and was not able to shrink win7 enough, i used #2 of above because i do not have win7 install cd.
if you want a step by step of what i did, contact me off list and i will be glad to send you how i did it.
as for partitioning, i ran a search for a live partitioning iso and found a free pmagic-2013-08-01.iso to work just fine. i do not recall where i pulled it from, but a web search will give you plenty of hits for that iso name.
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 11:57, Nikkita Miles wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
as mentioned, you may well need to shrink win7 partition, but be aware that you will have problems due to locked directories and files.
reason i know this is because i recently installed linux to a laptop and ran into shrinking problems due to locked directories and files.
there are several ways to go about setting up laptop for dual booting.
1- wipe hdd and install win7 as new, loosing all you have built up. 2- run recovery program to maintain current win7 to maintain current setup and files.
after several attempts to shrink win7 and was not able to shrink win7 enough, i used #2 of above because i do not have win7 install cd.
if you want a step by step of what i did, contact me off list and i will be glad to send you how i did it.
as for partitioning, i ran a search for a live partitioning iso and found a free pmagic-2013-08-01.iso to work just fine. i do not recall where i pulled it from, but a web search will give you plenty of hits for that iso name.
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
It will really save Nikkita a lot of headaches. Sometimes, re-installing windows causes it not to be validated with the COA code because it is already registered. Then, one has to call MS, wait for a long time to reach the correct dept. (usually somewhere in India or Philippines ...etc) in order to receive a new very long COA which will get easily lost over time unless it is indelibly recorded in a place where it will not get lost such as being permanently glued to the bottom of the laptop or on top of the Desktop PC.
Cheers,
JD
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
/snip/
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
/snip/
JD
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
--doug
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Doug dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
/snip/
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
/snip/
JD
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
Boot Windows to a recovery console, and chkdsk /f and then reboot. Defragment with Window's built in utility. Shrink with Window's built in utility. That's what I'd suggest. I wouldn't use any 3rd party utility for this, except maybe ntfsprogs in a bind.
On 07/03/15 19:27, Chris Murphy wrote: <<>>
Boot Windows to a recovery console, and chkdsk /f and then reboot. Defragment with Window's built in utility. Shrink with Window's built in utility. That's what I'd suggest. I wouldn't use any 3rd party utility for this, except maybe ntfsprogs in a bind.
. i tried defragging and using win shrink utility, but it did not move locked file down low enough to get desirable reduced size. iirc, it only allowed shrinkage to about 80% of original.
On 07/03/2015 06:58 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 19:27, Chris Murphy wrote: <<>>
Boot Windows to a recovery console, and chkdsk /f and then reboot. Defragment with Window's built in utility. Shrink with Window's built in utility. That's what I'd suggest. I wouldn't use any 3rd party utility for this, except maybe ntfsprogs in a bind.
. i tried defragging and using win shrink utility, but it did not move locked file down low enough to get desirable reduced size. iirc, it only allowed shrinkage to about 80% of original.
I did not use defragging. I just used the shrinkage util and it worked. I think the shrinkage util defrags and moves files/dirs as well. Not sure how it does that. My guess is that whatever part of the windows kernel assumes that certain dirs are at a particular location, it knows how to change that to the new location so kernel can access it.
On 07/03/15 20:55, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 06:58 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 19:27, Chris Murphy wrote: <<>>
Boot Windows to a recovery console, and chkdsk /f and then reboot. Defragment with Window's built in utility. Shrink with Window's built in utility. That's what I'd suggest. I wouldn't use any 3rd party utility for this, except maybe ntfsprogs in a bind.
. i tried defragging and using win shrink utility, but it did not move locked file down low enough to get desirable reduced size. iirc, it only allowed shrinkage to about 80% of original.
I did not use defragging. I just used the shrinkage util and it worked. I think the shrinkage util defrags and moves files/dirs as well. Not sure how it does that. My guess is that whatever part of the windows kernel assumes that certain dirs are at a particular location, it knows how to change that to the new location so kernel can access it.
_maybe_. but not true in my case.
shrinking did not move locked files or directories. in fact, at end of shrink run, a message popped up stating that no more shrinkage could be done because of locked files or directories.
On 07/03/15 18:33, Doug wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
/snip/
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
jd1008, what happens to locked directories and files?
see below for a brief of how i got laptop configured.
/snip/
JD
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
good question. below is what i did because programs i pulled to do such did not properly move files. above 'resizer-free' may work, but i did not find such program in search i made.
if one uses the win prog that creates the recovery dvd's, those files will be restored within a shrunk or re-partitioned partition.
as for validating the coa code, that was not a problem either because i did allow win7 to run it's update prog and it ran without any problem. ____
originally drive was;
sda1 hidden, win7 boot, data, diag sda2 win7 os sda3 HDDRECOVERY
using partition magic, i reduced sda2 size to open up room for extened partition, leaving 'HDDRECOVERY' in place.
i then made the gained space an extended partition where after partitioning, sda3 HDDRECOVERY became sda4 HDDRECOVERY.
reason for leaving HDDRECOVERY at end of drive was because i did not know what would happen if i moved it to new sda3 position with sda4 being extended.
i reformatted sda2 as ntfs and sliced up the new extended partition so that when i finished i had drive setup as;
/dev/sda1 ntfs 1G46 hidden, win7 boot, data, diag /dev/sda2 ntfs 40G15 win7 /dev/sda3 extended 183G19 /dev/sda5 ext4 1G00 /boot /dev/sda6 swap 2G88 swap /dev/sda7 ext4 10G00 / {centos 6 /dev/sda8 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda9 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda10 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda11 ext4 78G13 /home /dev/sda12 ext4 61G15 /hdd/sda/12 unallocated 4M83 /dev/sda4 ntfs 8G09 hidden HDDRECOVERY
after above partitioning, i reinstalled win7 via the recovery dvd's. rebooted and all worked well.
then i installed centos 6, install picked up on the win7 partition and made it 'other' in grub boot menu.
i assigned sda5 thru sda12 as shown above.
i now have a laptop that is dual boot and both systems run without any problems.
On 07/03/2015 06:53 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 18:33, Doug wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
/snip/
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
jd1008, what happens to locked directories and files?
see below for a brief of how i got laptop configured.
I have not experienced that issue. Don't know how to answer the question. I read your configuration, and I must say you have more partitions for windows than my case. I just had the windows 7 sda1. That was it! I used a live CD to fdisk the drive as follows: sda2 became / sda3 became swap. install fedora from DVD Done!
/snip/
JD
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
good question. below is what i did because programs i pulled to do such did not properly move files. above 'resizer-free' may work, but i did not find such program in search i made.
if one uses the win prog that creates the recovery dvd's, those files will be restored within a shrunk or re-partitioned partition.
as for validating the coa code, that was not a problem either because i did allow win7 to run it's update prog and it ran without any problem. ____
originally drive was;
sda1 hidden, win7 boot, data, diag sda2 win7 os sda3 HDDRECOVERY
using partition magic, i reduced sda2 size to open up room for extened partition, leaving 'HDDRECOVERY' in place.
i then made the gained space an extended partition where after partitioning, sda3 HDDRECOVERY became sda4 HDDRECOVERY.
reason for leaving HDDRECOVERY at end of drive was because i did not know what would happen if i moved it to new sda3 position with sda4 being extended.
i reformatted sda2 as ntfs and sliced up the new extended partition so that when i finished i had drive setup as;
/dev/sda1 ntfs 1G46 hidden, win7 boot, data, diag /dev/sda2 ntfs 40G15 win7 /dev/sda3 extended 183G19 /dev/sda5 ext4 1G00 /boot /dev/sda6 swap 2G88 swap /dev/sda7 ext4 10G00 / {centos 6 /dev/sda8 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda9 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda10 ext4 10G00 { open for additional linux systems /dev/sda11 ext4 78G13 /home /dev/sda12 ext4 61G15 /hdd/sda/12 unallocated 4M83 /dev/sda4 ntfs 8G09 hidden HDDRECOVERY
after above partitioning, i reinstalled win7 via the recovery dvd's. rebooted and all worked well.
then i installed centos 6, install picked up on the win7 partition and made it 'other' in grub boot menu.
i assigned sda5 thru sda12 as shown above.
i now have a laptop that is dual boot and both systems run without any problems.
On 07/03/15 20:41, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 06:53 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 18:33, Doug wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
<<<<>>>>
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
jd1008,
what happens to locked directories and files?
see below for a brief of how i got laptop configured.
I have not experienced that issue. Don't know how to answer the question.
. then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I read your configuration, and I must say you have more partitions for windows than my case.
. during time i was setting up this laptop, a toshiba satellite l455d-s5976, i was communicating with a friend who is a 'win head'. yes, i do know such people and i am friends with them. ;-)
he has a laptop that also has 2 hidden and 1 visible system, partitions.
i guess it is just way some oem's set things up.
I just had the windows 7 sda1. That was it!
I used a live CD to fdisk the drive as follows: sda2 became / sda3 became swap.
install fedora from DVD
Done!
some folks miss out on all the fun. ;-)
On 07/03/2015 08:01 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:41, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 06:53 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 18:33, Doug wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
<<<<>>>>
I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
jd1008,
what happens to locked directories and files?
see below for a brief of how i got laptop configured.
I have not experienced that issue. Don't know how to answer the question.
. then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
I read your configuration, and I must say you have more partitions for windows than my case.
. during time i was setting up this laptop, a toshiba satellite l455d-s5976, i was communicating with a friend who is a 'win head'. yes, i do know such people and i am friends with them. ;-)
he has a laptop that also has 2 hidden and 1 visible system, partitions.
i guess it is just way some oem's set things up.
I just had the windows 7 sda1. That was it!
I used a live CD to fdisk the drive as follows: sda2 became / sda3 became swap.
install fedora from DVD
Done!
some folks miss out on all the fun. ;-)
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 19:54, jd1008 wrote:
<<<<>>>>
It can either shrink or expand a partition.
You must be careful to leave enough room in the windows partition because it uses free disk space for swap.
. actually, in reading info at http://www.resize-c.com/, i may have missed it, but there is nothing on pages stating anything about locked directories of files.
only statements are that it allows one to safely resize.
So, because they do not mention it, therefore...... what?
. it is a presumption, unless you tried program and found that in fact locked files/directories where moved.
In fact none of the partition resizing programs I recall having used, said anything about locked files or dirs.
. that would/may be due to prog devs letting prog users presume that locked files/directories where in fact moved.
years ago, i tried a shrink program that in fact shrunk partition and did not move locked files. when i rebooted win, it errored out with a notice that it was unable to find 2 files. which i presume was because shrink prog did not move files, it just did away with them.
Some other OP stated that windows 7 itself can shrink the partition. I cannot vouch for that, because I have never tried it.
win7 does have a shrink program, but as i have already posted, it ended with notice that no further shrinking could be done because of the locked files/directories.
=+=+=+=
On 07/03/15 21:08, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 08:01 PM, g wrote:
<<>>
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
On 07/03/2015 08:27 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
Not sure I am making a presumption. All I can say is that I did not have any issues with rebooting windows after the shrink. By the way: Original sda1 was the whole free space of nearly 1TB. After shrinkage, sda1 became little over 320GB (which I thought was sufficient enough for future windows usage to not only download new files, but also to have plenty of room for windows swap files. Like you said, some people have all the fun :)
Most first timers don't need to nuke their Windows installation, mess with re-sizing a hard drive, or hassle with dual booting. Most laptops and PCs are capable of running Fedora or any other OS in a virtual environment.
Get and install the windows version of VirtualBox, VmWare Workstation or VmWare Player. VMWare Workstation costs money. There's zero cost for either VmWare Player or VirtualBox. You should have at least 2 GB RAM installed on your machine (1 GB for Windows and 1 GB for the virtual machine). You should have at least 500 MB of disk space available for creation of a virtual disk drive.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/03/2015 08:27 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
Not sure I am making a presumption.
All I can say is that I did not have any issues with rebooting windows after the shrink. By the way: Original sda1 was the whole free space of nearly 1TB. After shrinkage, sda1 became little over 320GB (which I thought was sufficient enough for future windows usage to not only download new files, but also to have plenty of room for windows swap files. Like you said, some people have all the fun :)
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I downloaded the VMware software however when I tried to load the *.iso file for Fedora I received an error. Will VMWare accept Fedora 64-bit file for Windows 7?
Nikkita
On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Kam Leo kam.leo@gmail.com wrote:
Most first timers don't need to nuke their Windows installation, mess with re-sizing a hard drive, or hassle with dual booting. Most laptops and PCs are capable of running Fedora or any other OS in a virtual environment.
Get and install the windows version of VirtualBox, VmWare Workstation or VmWare Player. VMWare Workstation costs money. There's zero cost for either VmWare Player or VirtualBox. You should have at least 2 GB RAM installed on your machine (1 GB for Windows and 1 GB for the virtual machine). You should have at least 500 MB of disk space available for creation of a virtual disk drive.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/03/2015 08:27 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
Not sure I am making a presumption. All I can say is that I did not have any issues with rebooting windows after the shrink. By the way: Original sda1 was the whole free space of nearly 1TB. After shrinkage, sda1 became little over 320GB (which I thought was sufficient enough for future windows usage to not only download new files, but also to have plenty of room for windows swap files. Like you said, some people have all the fun :)
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Check to see if your CPU has the necessary VT support features. Read this article, Hardware and firmware requirements for 64-bit guest operating systems(1003945) http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003945 ( http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd... ), and download their utility https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/details/processor_check_5_5_dt/dCpiQGhkYmRAZQ== if necessary.
Your message is a good reminder for me to verify that my next Intel processor is VT-capable.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Nikkita Miles nikkitakmiles@me.com wrote:
Kam
I downloaded the VMware software however when I tried to load the *.iso file for Fedora I received an error. Will VMWare accept Fedora 64-bit file for Windows 7?
Nikkita
On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Kam Leo kam.leo@gmail.com wrote:
Most first timers don't need to nuke their Windows installation, mess with re-sizing a hard drive, or hassle with dual booting. Most laptops and PCs are capable of running Fedora or any other OS in a virtual environment.
Get and install the windows version of VirtualBox, VmWare Workstation or VmWare Player. VMWare Workstation costs money. There's zero cost for either VmWare Player or VirtualBox. You should have at least 2 GB RAM installed on your machine (1 GB for Windows and 1 GB for the virtual machine). You should have at least 500 MB of disk space available for creation of a virtual disk drive.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/03/2015 08:27 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
Not sure I am making a presumption.
All I can say is that I did not have any issues with rebooting windows after the shrink. By the way: Original sda1 was the whole free space of nearly 1TB. After shrinkage, sda1 became little over 320GB (which I thought was sufficient enough for future windows usage to not only download new files, but also to have plenty of room for windows swap files. Like you said, some people have all the fun :)
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I neglected to mention in the previous post that VmWare does not allow a 64-bit guest to run on a 32-bit host.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Kam Leo kam.leo@gmail.com wrote:
Check to see if your CPU has the necessary VT support features. Read this article, Hardware and firmware requirements for 64-bit guest operating systems(1003945) http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003945 ( http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd... ), and download their utility https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/details/processor_check_5_5_dt/dCpiQGhkYmRAZQ== if necessary.
Your message is a good reminder for me to verify that my next Intel processor is VT-capable.
On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Nikkita Miles nikkitakmiles@me.com wrote:
Kam
I downloaded the VMware software however when I tried to load the *.iso file for Fedora I received an error. Will VMWare accept Fedora 64-bit file for Windows 7?
Nikkita
On Jul 4, 2015, at 1:09 PM, Kam Leo kam.leo@gmail.com wrote:
Most first timers don't need to nuke their Windows installation, mess with re-sizing a hard drive, or hassle with dual booting. Most laptops and PCs are capable of running Fedora or any other OS in a virtual environment.
Get and install the windows version of VirtualBox, VmWare Workstation or VmWare Player. VMWare Workstation costs money. There's zero cost for either VmWare Player or VirtualBox. You should have at least 2 GB RAM installed on your machine (1 GB for Windows and 1 GB for the virtual machine). You should have at least 500 MB of disk space available for creation of a virtual disk drive.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 7:38 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 07/03/2015 08:27 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 20:58, jd1008 wrote:> On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
then you are recommending something that you have no experiance with?
I mean the util did not have or report such issues. It just shrunk sda1 and I had plenty of room to add p2 and p3.
Win7 was perfectly bootable afterwards.
so you are making a valid presumption.
Not sure I am making a presumption.
All I can say is that I did not have any issues with rebooting windows after the shrink. By the way: Original sda1 was the whole free space of nearly 1TB. After shrinkage, sda1 became little over 320GB (which I thought was sufficient enough for future windows usage to not only download new files, but also to have plenty of room for windows swap files. Like you said, some people have all the fun :)
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On 07/03/2015 05:33 PM, Doug wrote:
On 07/03/2015 07:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 02:16 PM, g wrote:
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I found a win7 program (Free as in no cash payment needed). Download from http://download.resize-c.com/resizer-free.zip It resizes partitions on all windows.
/snip/
JD
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
--doug
Yes - it does all of that. It can either shrink or expand a partition.
You must be careful to leave enough room in the windows partition because it uses free disk space for swap.
On 07/03/15 19:54, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 05:33 PM, Doug wrote:
<<>>
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
--doug
Yes - it does all of that. It can either shrink or expand a partition.
You must be careful to leave enough room in the windows partition because it uses free disk space for swap.
. actually, in reading info at http://www.resize-c.com/, i may have missed it, but there is nothing on pages stating anything about locked directories of files.
only statements are that it allows one to safely resize.
On 07/03/2015 07:17 PM, g wrote:
On 07/03/15 19:54, jd1008 wrote:
On 07/03/2015 05:33 PM, Doug wrote:
<<>>
Unfortunately there is no information at this url, just the zip file. Do you know if it will move the files that Windows puts way out about halfway thru the existing partition, that normally limits how far you can shrink Windows?
--doug
Yes - it does all of that. It can either shrink or expand a partition.
You must be careful to leave enough room in the windows partition because it uses free disk space for swap.
. actually, in reading info at http://www.resize-c.com/, i may have missed it, but there is nothing on pages stating anything about locked directories of files.
only statements are that it allows one to safely resize.
So, because they do not mention it, therefore...... what? In fact none of the partition resizing programs I recall having used, said anything about locked files or dirs.
Some other OP stated that windows 7 itself can shrink the partition. I cannot vouch for that, because I have never tried it.
Nikkita,
I fully second the idea of trying out a LiveCD (albeit using a USB) first -- here are some instructions that i came across: https://kororaproject.org/support/documentation/creating-bootable-media -- and then seeing how things go.
Btw, since you are totally new, you may actually want to install Kororaa which is a remake of Fedora with some of the proprietary stuff included.
However, note that i personally have no experience with Kororaa.
Many thanks and best wishes, Ranjan
On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 12:57:33 -0400 Nikkita Miles nikkitakmiles@me.com wrote:
New to Fedora OS use. Have windows 7 currently on laptop Want to install Fedora Need suggestion on best Fedora product to use Need suggestion on how to begin Need complete step thru process Real new to conversion process
Thanks
Nikkita
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