These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be: What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration? Hardware is:4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHzSoftware is:Fedora-26 with all updatesKernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64KDE Frameworks 5.36.0 Thanks - jon
On 08/07/2017 09:34 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
If you check the change log for xorg-x11-drv-intel you would see that....
* Wed Oct 02 2013 Adam Jackson ajax@redhat.com 2.21.15-4 - Default to uxa again
You, of course, could switch to sna by creating an xorg.conf which specifies it.
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 09:57 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/07/2017 09:34 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
If you check the change log for xorg-x11-drv-intel you would see that....
- Wed Oct 02 2013 Adam Jackson ajax@redhat.com 2.21.15-4
- Default to uxa again
You, of course, could switch to sna by creating an xorg.conf which specifies it.
Where is this change log. Again it should be easy to find, but it seems not to be. I would expect it to be inxorg-x11-drv-intel-2.99.917-28.20160929.fc26.src.rpmbut it's not.
Similarly, a Google search for changelog "Default to uxa again" yields this pagehttp://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/xorg-x11-drv-intel.git/tree/xorg-x11-drv-intel... but trying to access this page produces Page not found (404)
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:04:27 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote:
Oh, and I believe if you looked in the Xorg.0.log it would tell you what is being used more definitely than what I've assumed is an accurate changelog. FWIW, I don't use Intel Graphics Hardware.
Again, it's not so easy. There's nothing about sna or xua or acceleration in the file.
The man page for intel(4) states that the default is sna. What's correct, the Changelog or the man page? !!FOO!!
Thanks - jon
On 08/08/2017 04:51 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 09:57 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/07/2017 09:34 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be: What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration? Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
If you check the change log for xorg-x11-drv-intel you would see that....
- Wed Oct 02 2013 Adam Jackson <ajax@redhat.com mailto:ajax@redhat.com> 2.21.15-4
- Default to uxa again
You, of course, could switch to sna by creating an xorg.conf which specifies it.
Where is this change log. Again it should be easy to find, but it seems not to be.
To get the change log for an installed package you can do....
rpm -q --changelog name-of-package as in
rpm -q --changelog xorg-x11-drv-intel
Oh, and I believe if you looked in the Xorg.0.log it would tell you what is being used more definitely than what I've assumed is an accurate changelog. FWIW, I don't use Intel Graphics Hardware.
Again, it's not so easy. There's nothing about sna or xua or acceleration in the file.
Right. After posting this you found the system was defaulting to a different driver.
On 08/07/2017 09:34 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
Oh, and I believe if you looked in the Xorg.0.log it would tell you what is being used more definitely than what I've assumed is an accurate changelog. FWIW, I don't use Intel Graphics Hardware.
On 08/06/2017 08:34 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
The "intel" X.org driver is deprecated. I recommend you switch to the "modesetting" driver.
With the modesetting driver installed you can remove the intel driver.
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 11:59 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 08/06/2017 08:34 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
The "intel" X.org driver is deprecated. I recommend you switch to the "modesetting" driver.
With the modesetting driver installed you can remove the intel driver.
The modesetting driver appears to be installed since it's part of the xorg-x11-server-Xorg package, which is installed on my system. But possibly not active. Where are instructions on how to find out whether it's active and, if necessary, how to activate it?
Thanks - jon
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:05 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 11:59 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 08/06/2017 08:34 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be:
What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration?
Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
The "intel" X.org driver is deprecated. I recommend you switch to the "modesetting" driver.
With the modesetting driver installed you can remove the intel driver.
The modesetting driver appears to be installed since it's part of the xorg-x11-server-Xorg package, which is installed on my system. But possibly not active. Where are instructions on how to find out whether it's active and, if necessary, how to activate it?
Just after posting this I looked at Xorg.0.log again and found that 1. the system *is* running the modesetting driver 2. the modesetting driver's man page says it doesn't do acceleration, which explains why there's no reference to sna or uxa in Xprg.0.log.
===> So, I'm left with my original problem, which is why the KDE Plasma desktop often crashes when I close an instance of Firefox with a lot of open windows and/or tabs. I had suspected that it might have something to do with graphics acceleration (there are hints of such problems on the web), but it seems not to be so. Suggestions are welcome. I've reported the crashes to Red Hat's Bugzilla.
jon
On 08/08/2017 05:32 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:05 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 11:59 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 08/06/2017 08:34 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
These should be easy to find out but they don't seem to be: What X driver does my system use? If as I suspect it's for intel/Haskel, is it set to use sna or uxa acceleration? Hardware is: 4 core Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz Software is: Fedora-26 with all updates Kernel 4.11.12-200.fc25.x86_64 KDE Frameworks 5.36.0
The "intel" X.org driver is deprecated. I recommend you switch to the "modesetting" driver.
With the modesetting driver installed you can remove the intel driver.
The modesetting driver appears to be installed since it's part of the xorg-x11-server-Xorg package, which is installed on my system. But possibly not active. Where are instructions on how to find out whether it's active and, if necessary, how to activate it?
Just after posting this I looked at Xorg.0.log again and found that
- the system *is* running the modesetting driver
- the modesetting driver's man page says it doesn't do acceleration, which explains why there's no reference to sna or uxa in Xprg.0.log.
===> So, I'm left with my original problem, which is why the KDE Plasma desktop often crashes when I close an instance of Firefox with a lot of open windows and/or tabs. I had suspected that it might have something to do with graphics acceleration (there are hints of such problems on the web), but it seems not to be so. Suggestions are welcome. I've reported the crashes to Red Hat's Bugzilla.
What is the bugzilla #? Even though I don't use Intel HW at the moment it does concern KDE which I do run an I would like to follow. You may also want to post your experience on the KDE list as someone there may have run into this.
Additionally, I think you may also want to try switching to the intel driver. I believe this can be done by just creating an xorg.conf with just
Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "intel" EndSection
as the content.
On 08/08/2017 08:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
What is the bugzilla #?
Never mind. I found it. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1417396
No indication as of yet that it is intel specific.
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:05 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
[ ... ]
The modesetting driver appears to be installed since it's part of the xorg-x11-server-Xorg package, which is installed on my system. But possibly not active. Where are instructions on how to find out whether it's active and, if necessary, how to activate it?
To list the drivers I do this (please note the "name:" entry):
xrandr --listproviders Providers: number : 2 Provider 0: id: 0x6f cap: 0xf, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 3 associated providers: 1 name:modesetting Provider 1: id: 0x49 cap: 0xf, Source Output, Sink Output, Source Offload, Sink Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 4 associated providers: 1 name:PITCAIRN @ pci:0000:01:00.0
If I'd see no modesetting info from the previous output I'd check config files in /etc/modprobe.d/ or /etc/default/grub (or wherever) that switch off modesetting
I didn't find recent docs for Fedora re. this, but here's some info from Debian pages:
-------------------- To disable KMS for Intel and Radeon cards, either: Boot with the nomodeset kernel command line parameter. Edit /etc/modprobe.d/i915-kms.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf accordingly.
To disable KMS for nVidia cards, either: Boot with the nomodeset kernel command line parameter. Blacklist the nouveau kernel module, e.g. with echo blacklist nouveau > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf and create a minimal /etc/X11/xorg.conf specifying the desired driver, e.g. [ ... ]
Setting via Grub
Configuring the KMS via Grub can be done via the /etc/default/grub config file by doing something similar to the following: [ .... ] --------------
The rest at: https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting
Again: some look to /etc/modprobe.d/ etc. might be useful
This might be useful, too: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
HTH, Wolfgang
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