FC6 Nautilus CD/DVD creator problem

[Paul Erickson]

I am having trouble with the Nautilus CD/DVD creator on one of my FC6 
boxes. When I put a blank
disk in the HP 8100, the CD/DVD creator window comes up, but when I try 
to write the files to the
disk, I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message. No 
matter how many times I click the
"OK" the message keeps coming back. I know the hardware is ok, because 
K3B works fine.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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"Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad."

“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann

"That state which separates it's warriors from it's scholars will have
it's thinking done by cowards and fighting done by fools" - Thucydides - The
Pelopenisia 

"The Malice of the wicked is reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous." -
Churchill

[stan]

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:06:16 -0700
Paul Erickson <paule(a)sfu.ca&gt; wrote:

>  I am having trouble with the Nautilus CD/DVD creator on one of my FC6
>
>  boxes. When I put a blank
>  disk in the HP 8100, the CD/DVD creator window comes up, but when I
>  try to write the files to the
>  disk, I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message. No 
>  matter how many times I click the
>  "OK" the message keeps coming back. I know the hardware is ok,
>  because K3B works fine.
>  
>  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>   
I had this problem with FC6 as well.  I used the dvd_grow (name might
be wrong) software from the command line and it would work.  Sometimes
just jiggling the DVD would work as well.  I chalked it up to a flaky
drive but I could be wrong.

[Bill Case]

Hi;

Just went through the same problem on FC6 trying to burn my F7
rescue.iso.

On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 02:26 -0700, stan wrote:
>  On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 08:06:16 -0700
>  Paul Erickson <paule(a)sfu.ca&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > I am having trouble with the Nautilus CD/DVD creator on one of my FC6 
>  > boxes. When I put a blank
>  > disk in the HP 8100, the CD/DVD creator window comes up, but when I
>  > try to write the files to the
>  > disk, I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message. No 
>  > matter how many times I click the
>  > "OK" the message keeps coming back. I know the hardware is ok,
>  > because K3B works fine. 
Exactly the same here.

Downloaded X-cd-roast and burned it from the root user.  So I suspect,
like you there is nothing wrong with my CD-R/W (works in WindowsXP) and
nothing wrong with X-cd-roast (cdrecord), so it must be nautilus.

>  > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>  > 
>  I had this problem with FC6 as well.  I used the dvd_grow (name might
>  be wrong) software from the command line and it would work.  Sometimes
>  just jiggling the DVD would work as well.  I chalked it up to a flaky
>  drive but I could be wrong.
>   



-- 
Regards Bill

[Andrew Kelly]

On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 08:06 -0700, Paul Erickson wrote:
>  I am having trouble with the Nautilus CD/DVD creator on one of my FC6
>
>  boxes. When I put a blank
>  disk in the HP 8100, the CD/DVD creator window comes up, but when I try 
>  to write the files to the
>  disk, I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message. No 
>  matter how many times I click the
>  "OK" the message keeps coming back. I know the hardware is ok, because 
>  K3B works fine.
>  
>  Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. 
Exactly this happened to me over the weekend, very frustrating. I hope
your solution turns out to be as easy as mine was. After about an hour,
I discovered that the 3 disks which I been trying to use had been, er...
grabbed from the wrong stack. They weren't blank.

So, user error on my part.

Although, to my defence I have to say that absolutely no helpful message
is returned. Something as simple as "disk not blank" would have saved me
a ton of stress and a wasted hour.

Andy

>  -- 
>  ----------------------------------------------------------------
>  cheers, Paul - VA7NT - email: va7nt(a)telus.net
>  
>  "Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad."
>  
>  “Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann
>  
>  "That state which separates it's warriors from it's scholars will have
> it's thinking done by cowards and fighting done by fools" - Thucydides - The
> Pelopenisia 
>  
>  "The Malice of the wicked is reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous." -
> Churchill
>  
>

[Tim]

Paul Erickson:
> > I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc"
> message 
Andrew Kelly:
>  I discovered that the 3 disks which I been trying to use had been,
> er...
>  grabbed from the wrong stack. They weren't blank.
>  
>  So, user error on my part.
>  
>  Although, to my defence I have to say that absolutely no helpful message
>  is returned. Something as simple as "disk not blank" would have saved me
>  a ton of stress and a wasted hour. 
*You* didn't get the message about inserting a *writable* or *blank*
disc?  The inference is that the one in the drive *isn't*.

-- 
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 important to the thread.)

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[Andrew Kelly]

On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 20:59 +0930, Tim wrote:
>  Paul Erickson:
>  >> I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message
>  
>  Andrew Kelly:
>  > I discovered that the 3 disks which I been trying to use had been, er...
>  > grabbed from the wrong stack. They weren't blank.
>  > 
>  > So, user error on my part.
>  > 
>  > Although, to my defence I have to say that absolutely no helpful message
>  > is returned. Something as simple as "disk not blank" would have saved me
>  > a ton of stress and a wasted hour.
>  
>  *You* didn't get the message about inserting a *writable* or *blank*
>  disc?  The inference is that the one in the drive *isn't*. 
Yes, agreed. But that's the same message you get when you first fire
things up and/or the drive is empty. It doesn't change a whit when you
try to feed it non-blank disks and the assumption that us mortals make
is that the crap isn't working. In fact, I think I actually yelled "What
is this MS BS?"

Heck, I'd still be assuming that the Nautilus burner didn't survive the
trip to FC7 if I hadn't have swapped to a different bit of software and
gotten a useful hint.  
Wait, let's be honest here. That message was crap too, but at least it
got me questioning things.

Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
happened... 
Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
[sigh]

Andy




>  -- 
>  (This box runs FC6, my others run FC4 & FC5, in case that's
>   important to the thread.)
>  
>  Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
>  I read messages from the public lists.
>  
>

[Paul Erickson]

Andrew Kelly wrote:
>  On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 20:59 +0930, Tim wrote:
>    
> > Paul Erickson:
> >     
> >>> I keep getting an "Insert a writable or blank disc" message
> >>>         
> > Andrew Kelly:
> >     
> >> I discovered that the 3 disks which I been trying to use had been, er...
> >> grabbed from the wrong stack. They weren't blank.
> >>
> >> So, user error on my part.
> >>
> >> Although, to my defence I have to say that absolutely no helpful message
> >> is returned. Something as simple as "disk not blank" would have saved
> me
> >> a ton of stress and a wasted hour.
> >>       
> > *You* didn't get the message about inserting a *writable* or *blank*
> > disc?  The inference is that the one in the drive *isn't*.
> >     
>
>  Yes, agreed. But that's the same message you get when you first fire
>  things up and/or the drive is empty. It doesn't change a whit when you
>  try to feed it non-blank disks and the assumption that us mortals make
>  is that the crap isn't working. In fact, I think I actually yelled "What
>  is this MS BS?"
>
>  Heck, I'd still be assuming that the Nautilus burner didn't survive the
>  trip to FC7 if I hadn't have swapped to a different bit of software and
>  gotten a useful hint.  
>  Wait, let's be honest here. That message was crap too, but at least it
>  got me questioning things.
>
>  Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
>  happened... 
>  Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
>  [sigh]
>
>  Andy
>     
Thanks for the reply. I wondered about that also, and double checked the 
disks, and when I rebooted
into XP could write to the same disk fine. It seems to be something to 
do with the HP cdwriter 8100.
I can copy a music disk in K3B fine, but it chokes when I try to copy a 
"data" disk.

Is anyone aware of any specific driver issues with this hardware?

Thanks again.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------
cheers, Paul - VA7NT - email: va7nt(a)telus.net

"Those who hear not the music, think the dancers mad."

“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.” - Thomas Mann

"That state which separates it's warriors from it's scholars will have
it's thinking done by cowards and fighting done by fools" - Thucydides - The
Pelopenisia 

"The Malice of the wicked is reinforced by the weakness of the virtuous." -
Churchill

[Tim]

On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
>  Yes, agreed. But that's the same message you get when you first
> fire
>  things up and/or the drive is empty. It doesn't change a whit when you
>  try to feed it non-blank disks and the assumption that us mortals make
>  is that the crap isn't working. In fact, I think I actually yelled
>  "What is this MS BS?"  
The error messages for empty drives should certainly be more explicit
(e.g. no media in drive), rather than imply that there's media in that
it can't make use of.

-- 
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 important to the thread.)

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
I read messages from the public lists.

[Ric Moore]

On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:

>  Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems
> never
>  happened... 
>  Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
>  [sigh]
>  
>  Andy 
Guess what? It gets worse after 50. I'm gonna shoot myself at 60 while
I'm still pretty. <cackles> Ric

[Per Anton Rønning]

Ric Moore wrote:
>  On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
>
>    
> > Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
> > happened... 
> > Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
> > [sigh]
> >
> > Andy
> >     
>
>  Guess what? It gets worse after 50. I'm gonna shoot myself at 60 while
>  I'm still pretty. <cackles> Ric
>
>     
What on earth do you mean?  You do not loose your expertise at a certain 
age!
And the situation today is that good people is increasingly hard to come by.
Hang in there.


Brgds
PAR

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 28 August 2007, PerAntonRønning wrote:
> Ric Moore wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> >> Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
> >> happened...
> >> Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
> >> [sigh]
> >>
> >> Andy
> >
> > Guess what? It gets worse after 50. I'm gonna shoot myself at 60 while
> > I'm still pretty. <cackles> Ric
>
> What on earth do you mean?  You do not loose your expertise at a certain
> age!
> And the situation today is that good people is increasingly hard to come by.
> Hang in there. 
Yeah, we all fuss.  But then my phone rings, and makes me '$1k week and found' 
to go put out a fire some younger types can't even smell the smoke of.  And 
one more time I get accused of walking on water cuz "I didn't know you could 
do THAT!"  Gives me the big head is what it does.  Then my back goes out 
without me again to remind me of whats really important...

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
...though his invention worked superbly -- his theory was a crock of sewage 
from
beginning to end. -- Vernor Vinge, "The Peace War"

[Tim]

On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 10:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>  But then my phone rings, and makes me '$1k week and found' to
> go put
>  out a fire some younger types can't even smell the smoke of.  And one
>  more time I get accused of walking on water cuz "I didn't know you
>  could do THAT!"  Gives me the big head is what it does. 
Though, getting the reputation for being a "miracle worker" comes back
to bite you the day you get a task that you can't do.  Everyone believes
that you can, and thinks that you're just refusing to, sometimes turning
nasty about it...

-- 
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[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> > Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
> > happened...
> > Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
> > [sigh]
> >
> > Andy
>
> Guess what? It gets worse after 50. I'm gonna shoot myself at 60 while
> I'm still pretty. <cackles> Ric 
And at 70+, its hard to find something that still works at all, let alone as 
well as it used to..

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
...though his invention worked superbly -- his theory was a crock of sewage 
from
beginning to end. -- Vernor Vinge, "The Peace War"

[Karl Larsen]

Gene Heskett wrote:
>  On Tuesday 28 August 2007, Ric Moore wrote:
>    
> > On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 15:13 +0200, Andrew Kelly wrote:
> >     
> >> Sometimes it's like the last decade of administering *nix systems never
> >> happened...
> >> Turn 40 and the warranty runs out. Junk starts breaking.
> >> [sigh]
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>       
> > Guess what? It gets worse after 50. I'm gonna shoot myself at 60 while
> > I'm still pretty. <cackles> Ric
> >     
>
>  And at 70+, its hard to find something that still works at all, let alone as 
>  well as it used to..
>
>     
    At 72 they do sneeky things like add a 2 to the name and a thing you 
used for years is a whole new devise. And it takes more time to pee.



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