graphical ftp client

[Bob Hartung]

sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank when I
sent it!

Hi all,

Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
as open source and is available as an rpm?

Tnx

[SternData]

[e-mail] wrote:
> sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank when I
> sent it!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
> as open source and is available as an rpm?

gftp

On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank 
> > when I
> > sent it!
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > available
> > as open source and is available as an rpm?
>
> gftp

With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
Is that not right?

[Jon D. Slater]

[e-mail] wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank 
> > > when I
> > > sent it!
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > available
> > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> >
> > gftp
>
> With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> Is that not right?

No, that is not correct.

gftp supports ftp and sftp

[Jim Cornette]

[e-mail] wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank 
> > > when I
> > > sent it!
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > available
> > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> >
> > gftp
>
> With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> Is that not right?

If you are getting information that is not confidential, why worry if 
you are using sftp or ftp? If it is sniffed there is no loss.

Jim

On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 05:57:21PM -0500, Jim Cornette wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still 
> > > > blank when I
> > > > sent it!
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > > available
> > > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> > >
> > > gftp
> >
> > With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> > Is that not right?
>
> If you are getting information that is not confidential, why worry if 
> you are using sftp or ftp? If it is sniffed there is no loss.
>
> Jim

Well first as a mea culpa gftp handles sftp .
Second, It is you passwd that you don't want sniffed so sftp is
important for security.

[James Wilkinson]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> If you are getting information that is not confidential, why worry if 
> you are using sftp or ftp? If it is sniffed there is no loss.

[e-mail] replied:
> Well first as a mea culpa gftp handles sftp .
> Second, It is you passwd that you don't want sniffed so sftp is
> important for security.

That's assuming that you don't want an FTP program for anonymous FTP (in
which case there is no secret password to sniff). It's not that unusual
a requirement.

In the second case, it also assumes that any password is actually
worthwhile. If the username and password are also valid for an SSH 
login, then you certainly don't want random hackers getting hold of
them.

But if it's for a well-secured FTP-only site and account, then all a
potential attacker can do is store data on the machine (and that depends
on the configuration). That used to be useful, but these days, I'd say
the value of it is effectively zero. If the data is legal, Gmail is a
better (and safer) storage site. If it's illegal, then a compromised FTP
site is too likely to be spotted by the owner -- much better to get a
rooted box that can hide the data from the owner.

There is, of course, the usual worry about holes in Internet-facing
software. But it's not really more serious for FTP software than it is
for a Web server or an e-mail server.

You're also assuming that there aren't other security measures (VPN, or
a trusted network) in place.

James.

[Jim Cornette]

[e-mail] wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 05:57:21PM -0500, Jim Cornette wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still 
> > > > > blank when I
> > > > > sent it!
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > > > available
> > > > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> > > >
> > > > gftp
> > >
> > > With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> > > Is that not right?
> >
> > If you are getting information that is not confidential, why worry if 
> > you are using sftp or ftp? If it is sniffed there is no loss.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Well first as a mea culpa gftp handles sftp .
> Second, It is you passwd that you don't want sniffed so sftp is
> important for security.

I usually use ftp on sites that do not require passwords. I did not see 
any security risk there with using ftp. I never thought about 
transferring information from one user account on a computer to another 
user account on another computer. Sftp would be safer in that situation.
Well at least I learned something that I did not know before. For 
situations where security is a concern, gftp can do sftp, live and learn.

Jim

[John Summerfield]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> >
>
> I usually use ftp on sites that do not require passwords. I did not see 
> any security risk there with using ftp. I never thought about 
> transferring information from one user account on a computer to another 
> user account on another computer.

For that I mostly use scp, sometimes rsync, and the reason's 
convenience, with security a maybe bonus: in my case I generally control 
the endpoints, mostly there's a VPN in the path etc etc.

graphical ftp client- suspicion

> I usually use ftp on sites that do not require passwords. I did not see 
> any security risk there with using ftp. I never thought about 
> transferring information from one user account on a computer to another 
> user account on another computer. Sftp would be safer in that situation.
> Well at least I learned something that I did not know before. For 
> situations where security is a concern, gftp can do sftp, live and learn.
>
> Jim

Except I have a strong suspicion that gftp uses scp not sftp. Can
anyone confirm or deny that?

[SternData]

[e-mail] wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank 
> > > when I
> > > sent it!
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > available
> > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> >
> > gftp
>
> With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> Is that not right?

The OP asked about FTP, not SFTP.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 10:22:12PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:46PM -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
> > > [e-mail] wrote:
> > > > sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still 
> > > > blank when I
> > > > sent it!
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is 
> > > > available
> > > > as open source and is available as an rpm?
> > >
> > > gftp
> >
> > With  that program you get all the insecurity of ftp instead of sftp.
> > Is that not right?
>
> The OP asked about FTP, not SFTP.

I guess I am trying to gently hist (as had been done often before) ftp
shoul dnot be used in general because it is not secure. As people have
poiterd out with gftp you have a choice, so that is good.

[Jim Cornette]

[e-mail] wrote:
> sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank when I
> sent it!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
> as open source and is available as an rpm?
>
> Tnx

There is a program for GNOME called gftp. It is "available" on the 
installation discs and also you could download and install it via yum.
Try 'yum install gftp' - answer yes to install and you should find the 
ICON under Applications -> Internet -> gFTP
It comes up with an address bar to enter the site, two panes for file 
transfer, (left for local machine, right for remote host)

Midnight Commander also is a decent visual, but non-GUI program that is 
useful for ftp transfers.
'yum install mc' - then type mc in the command shell to launch the 
program, (F9 to activate menu, choose either the left or right panel. 
then choose FTP link and type the URL in the dialog box. It also is 
handy for SAMBA connections.

Jim

[Charlie McVeigh]

On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 04:05 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
> sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank when I
> sent it!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
> as open source and is available as an rpm?
>
> Tnx

If you are running GNOME try gftp.

[John Summerfield]

[e-mail] wrote:
> sorry for the repost, I didn't relealize the subject line was still blank when I
> sent it!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
> as open source and is available as an rpm?

I agree with all those saying "gftp," but I've not used it for years. I 
find that when I want an interactive ftp client lftp is hard to beat, 
and links (I don't mean elinks) does a pretty decent job too.

Recent links, if so built, do a wonderful graphics display on a 
framebuffer console. And kens mouse clicks.

[Rex Dieter]

[e-mail] wrote:
> Can one of you recommend the best graphical FTP client for FC4 that is available
> as open source and is available as an rpm?

I like kasablanca from Fedora Extras (but I'm biased)

-- Rex