Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
On 01/12/2016 12:27 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
I can't say that I ever have, but I've never tried it, either. Once in a while, my trackball will stick for a moment, deleting two messages, one unread. When that happens, I right-click on Trash, open it in a new tab and move the message back to the Inbox. If your way isn't working, you may want to go to the Thunderbird support site and look around for others with the same issue. There may be an existing bug report, and if not, you should consider creating one.
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Hi, I'm using a daily build of upstream Thunderbird (46.0a1) and in my version Edit -> Undo Delete Message brings deleted messages back to the inbox and local folders. I just tried this for the first time. Also right clicking on the message in the trash folder offers a Move to "inbox" again option which also moves it, but I can't find it in the list when displayed in descending data order, even though a search for it shows it in the search results as being in the inbox.
regards, Steve
On 01/12/2016 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Hi, I'm using a daily build of upstream Thunderbird (46.0a1) and in my version Edit -> Undo Delete Message brings deleted messages back to the inbox and local folders. I just tried this for the first time. Also right clicking on the message in the trash folder offers a Move to "inbox" again option which also moves it, but I can't find it in the list when displayed in descending data order, even though a search for it shows it in the search results as being in the inbox.
regards, Steve
Well, this did not happen in previous versions of Thunderbird. Guess I will install an older version to verify.
On 13/01/16 08:49, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/12/2016 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Hi, I'm using a daily build of upstream Thunderbird (46.0a1) and in my version Edit -> Undo Delete Message brings deleted messages back to the inbox and local folders. I just tried this for the first time. Also right clicking on the message in the trash folder offers a Move to "inbox" again option which also moves it, but I can't find it in the list when displayed in descending data order, even though a search for it shows it in the search results as being in the inbox.
regards, Steve
Well, this did not happen in previous versions of Thunderbird. Guess I will install an older version to verify.
I may have confused things here. I meant if it was deleted from the inbox it was brought back to the inbox and if it was deleted from a local folder it was either brought back to that local folder or it was brought back to the inbox and message rules I have in place moved it back to the local folder. I tend to think the actual functionality is that it is brought back to the local folder based on my configuration.
regards, Steve
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
On 01/12/2016 02:11 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
How wonderful! Absolutely MAGICAL! :) :) Hey, you couldn't get this behavior even if you had to pay for it :) :)
On 01/12/2016 01:50 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/12/2016 02:11 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
How wonderful! Absolutely MAGICAL! :) :) Hey, you couldn't get this behavior even if you had to pay for it :) :)
I think the "undelete" thing pushes the messages from the deleted folder to the inbox of the default account (the one in boldface). It may also depend on what kind of mail account the message was deleted from. Deleting from a POP3 account makes it a bit more difficult to reinsert the message into the inbox (POP3 doesn't have folders or a copy command). The folders Thunderbird presents on your desktop are local to your machine--they don't exist on the POP server. IMAP does have folders and a copy command, so it's easy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Never put off 'til tommorrow what you can forget altogether! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On 01/12/2016 04:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/12/2016 01:50 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/12/2016 02:11 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
How wonderful! Absolutely MAGICAL! :) :) Hey, you couldn't get this behavior even if you had to pay for it :) :)
I think the "undelete" thing pushes the messages from the deleted folder to the inbox of the default account (the one in boldface). It may also depend on what kind of mail account the message was deleted from. Deleting from a POP3 account makes it a bit more difficult to reinsert the message into the inbox (POP3 doesn't have folders or a copy command). The folders Thunderbird presents on your desktop are local to your machine--they don't exist on the POP server. IMAP does have folders and a copy command, so it's easy.
For POP3, deleting a message does not purge it from the Inbox, it only marks it as deleted. That is why you have to Right-Click Inbox -> Compact in order to remove it from Inbox. At any rate, version 31 seems to take care of the problem.
On 01/12/2016 03:12 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
I think the "undelete" thing pushes the messages from the deleted folder to the inbox of the default account (the one in boldface). It may also depend on what kind of mail account the message was deleted from. Deleting from a POP3 account makes it a bit more difficult to reinsert the message into the inbox (POP3 doesn't have folders or a copy command). The folders Thunderbird presents on your desktop are local to your machine--they don't exist on the POP server. IMAP does have folders and a copy command, so it's easy.
And yet, all of my Thunderbird accounts are POP3.
On 13/01/16 10:12, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/12/2016 01:50 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/12/2016 02:11 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
How wonderful! Absolutely MAGICAL! :) :) Hey, you couldn't get this behavior even if you had to pay for it :) :)
I think the "undelete" thing pushes the messages from the deleted folder to the inbox of the default account (the one in boldface).
I don't have a default account, both accounts are bolded in the Thunderbird list, nor do I want a default account. Having said this though there is an Outgoing Server List which only have one entry in it, which is flagged a default, even though both of my accounts are configured to use different Outgoing Servers. Having said this I just check the account settings and there is one account in there that is bolded, which was the account the message was deleted from but it was not the account it was restored to.
It may also depend on what kind of mail account the message was deleted from. Deleting from a POP3 account makes it a bit more difficult to reinsert the message into the inbox (POP3 doesn't have folders or a copy command).
As far as I am aware, even though both accounts are using different ports, both accounts are POP3 as the incoming server names both begin with pop. The one relative to my ISP is definitely POP3 but I'm not 100% sure about the Google account.
regards, Steve
The folders Thunderbird presents on your desktop are local to your machine--they don't exist on the POP server. IMAP does have folders and a copy command, so it's easy.
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On 14/01/16 08:11, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 07:45 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
The one relative to my ISP is definitely POP3 but I'm not 100% sure about the Google account.
The TBird account settings will tell you.
Yep, both accounts are pop.
regards, Steve
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On 01/12/2016 02:11 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/01/16 07:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
Just further to my previous response, I have now found the "restored" message, but the restore moved it to the Inbox of a different account to the one it was deleted from.
regards, Steve
I reverted to version 31 and now undelete message works as expected.
Cheers,
JD
On 01/12/16 16:10, jd1008 wrote: <<>>
I reverted to version 31 and now undelete message works as expected.
you may want to use a different solution.
there have been several security updates from time of ver 31.
most recent is:
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0001.html
On 01/12/2016 05:12 PM, g wrote:
On 01/12/16 16:10, jd1008 wrote: <<>>
I reverted to version 31 and now undelete message works as expected.
you may want to use a different solution.
there have been several security updates from time of ver 31.
most recent is:
I have a fundamental distrust of ALL software. As far as I am concerned, there has never been an OS and it's Apps that are/were trustworthy. Couple that with today's politics and intrusions by authorities who want to see and hear how many times you farted and went to the bathroom, the shower, the kitchen, the bedroom, and what you did with your computer, .... etc, ....etc. More often than not, claims of fixing security holes are to cover up new code that opens bigger holes and installs more effective trojans and backdoors.
Call me paranoid if you like - but as has been said, (I paraphrase): just because I might be paranoid does not mean that those who want to screw up your online life are not trying to get into your computer.
It's F*****d up world.
Greed for Money has easily led to Greed for Power and Control of the whole world. But ... "what profiteth a man that he gain the whole world and loses his soul?"
Cheers,
JD
On 01/12/16 18:41, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/12/2016 05:12 PM, g wrote:
On 01/12/16 16:10, jd1008 wrote: <<>>
I reverted to version 31 and now undelete message works as expected.
you may want to use a different solution.
there have been several security updates from time of ver 31.
most recent is:
I have a fundamental distrust of ALL software. As far as I am concerned, there has never been an OS and it's Apps that are/were trustworthy.
*nix are as close as you will get for os.
moz software will never be because of attitude of hackers playing with software there.
Couple that with today's politics and intrusions by authorities who want to see and hear how many times you farted and went to the bathroom, the shower, the kitchen, the bedroom, and what you did with your computer, .... etc, ....etc. More often than not, claims of fixing security holes are to cover up new code that opens bigger holes and installs more effective trojans and backdoors.
ie, mozilla.
Call me paranoid if you like - but as has been said, (I paraphrase): just because I might be paranoid does not mean that those who want to screw up your online life are not trying to get into your computer.
how else would one do so?
It's F*****d up world.
a 7 letter curse word starting with 'F' ?
Greed for Money has easily led to Greed for Power and Control of the whole world. But ... "what profiteth a man that he gain the whole world and loses his soul?"
all of which is "off subject" and does not relate to your down grading thunderbird when you should have upgraded to thunderbird 38.5.0-1.
Cheers,
Metaxa. OPA!
jd1008:
I have a fundamental distrust of ALL software. As far as I am concerned, there has never been an OS and it's Apps that are/were trustworthy.
g:
*nix are as close as you will get for os.
What's that saying amongst NASA employees? "There's no problem that you cannot make worse."
moz software will never be because of attitude of hackers playing with software there.
That, in particular, is *the* modern problem. Home computer hacking (malware, viruses, etc.), used to be mostly confined to those illegally copying and sharing discs, who you might say, "deserved it." Though there was some peripheral damage, such as those nitwits bringing such discs to work and wrecking their boss' computer system.
Now, you're at risk just by looking at websites, not even attempting to do anything dodgy. The browser is such a fundamental part of using a modern home computer, and probably the riskiest. You have browsers coded by amateurs, there probably are some black hats amongst them, and they've consistently refused to make the browsers better at handling errors. i.e. Such things as not rejecting malformed pages, and trying to make something out of the tag soup mess, regardless of the risks. Whereas if the browser had gone, "nup, can't read that," in the first place, the nincompoop making bad websites would have seen their errors as they went along.
I find it difficult to browse many websites, these days. I have the script blocking, ad blocking stuff, to protect my sanity, and to try and make browsing safer and more private. But when you go to a website, you find you have to allow half a dozen scripts, and unrelated websites, just to get the damn page to render.
It's F*****d up world.
a 7 letter curse word starting with 'F' ?
Must be deadly... ;-)
On 01/13/16 04:23, Tim wrote: <<>>
g:
*nix are as close as you will get for os.
What's that saying amongst NASA employees? "There's no problem that you cannot make worse."
i may be wrong, but i understood that NASA used microscratch, like too many other federal gov departments. especially the navy. ;-)
moz software will never be because of attitude of hackers playing with software there.
That, in particular, is *the* modern problem. Home computer hacking (malware, viruses, etc.), used to be mostly confined to those illegally copying and sharing discs, who you might say, "deserved it." Though there was some peripheral damage, such as those nitwits bringing such discs to work and wrecking their boss' computer system.
most true.
a long time friend worked [now retired] at FedEx and made mistake of copying a long email [text/html] to a 3.5" disk and to work and loaded it on his office computer so he could read it. lest than 30 min, 4 IT and 3 security badges where at his desk. seems that email had a worm that crawled his system, and 6 more in his department and department server and was trying to get into one of the main frames when it got caught.
he did not get fired because of his position, but he did get reamed rather heavy.
after, a new policy was set. anyone caught loading outside material on corporate system would be automatically terminated.
Now, you're at risk just by looking at websites, not even attempting to do anything dodgy. The browser is such a fundamental part of using a modern home computer, and probably the riskiest. You have browsers coded by amateurs, there probably are some black hats amongst them, and they've consistently refused to make the browsers better at handling errors. i.e. Such things as not rejecting malformed pages, and trying to make something out of the tag soup mess, regardless of the risks. Whereas if the browser had gone, "nup, can't read that," in the first place, the nincompoop making bad websites would have seen their errors as they went along.
too many web page builders, "builders" because they use drag and drop page composers, are taking short courses in making web pages and have no clue of what they are doing. they think that because it looks good on their system, it will look good on every other system. light gray text on white background proves it.
very few ms users have any idea of what w3c is and even fewer know how to use info w3c reports.
I find it difficult to browse many websites, these days. I have the script blocking, ad blocking stuff, to protect my sanity, and to try and make browsing safer and more private. But when you go to a website, you find you have to allow half a dozen scripts, and unrelated websites, just to get the damn page to render.
i run with NoScript, ABP, and Ghostery active, and cookies disabled. when i hit a website that does not like such, i give much thought to whether i want to allow site. if page is not too lost, i go with what is shown. if if does not work, i open source to see if there is a lot of 3rd party links, and i check such sites for black listing.
many of the rogue sites i have run across are poorly written and feeding url to w3c is another way to find out about them.
It's F*****d up world.
a 7 letter curse word starting with 'F' ?
Must be deadly... ;-)
as a Tasmanian Devil during mating season. :-D
On 13/01/16 09:27, jd1008 wrote:
Edit -> Undo Delete Message does not bring deleted message back to Inbox
Tried it many times to no avail.
Anyone else seeing this?
I am running thunderbird 38.5.1 and "Edit" gives me an option "Undo" (no "Undo Delete Message").
I just deleted your message, then clicked on Edit -> Undo and the message was restored with consummate gracefulness. No problema.
cheers,
Rolf Turner
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