Hi All,
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Many thanks, -T
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 4:53 PM ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
$ dnf search 'remote desktop' ... freerdp.x86_64: Free implementation of the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) gnome-connections.x86_64: A remote desktop client for the GNOME desktop environment gnome-rdp.x86_64: Remote Desktop Protocol client for the GNOME desktop environment gnome-remote-desktop.x86_64: GNOME Remote Desktop screen share service krdc.x86_64: Remote desktop client rdesktop.x86_64: X client for remote desktop into Windows Terminal Server remmina.x86_64: Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-exec.x86_64: External execution plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-kwallet.x86_64: KDE Wallet plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-python.x86_64: Python plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-rdp.x86_64: RDP plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-secret.x86_64: Keyring integration for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-spice.x86_64: SPICE plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-vnc.x86_64: VNC plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-www.x86_64: WWW plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client remmina-plugins-x2go.x86_64: x2go plugin for Remmina Remote Desktop Client xrdp.i686: Open source remote desktop protocol (RDP) server xrdp.x86_64: Open source remote desktop protocol (RDP) server
On 3/27/25 2:33 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 4:53 PM ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
$ dnf search 'remote desktop' ...
$ dnf search 'remote desktop' | grep -i server | grep -v client Updating and loading repositories: Repositories loaded. xrdp.i686: Open source remote desktop protocol (RDP) server xrdp.x86_64: Open source remote desktop protocol (RDP) server
xrdp, besides being S-L-O-W, does not have multi-factor authentication. The customer is constantly under RDP probes from bad actors on the Internet.
Otherwise, it would be great.
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
What does "unattended Linux support" mean in your case?
On 3/27/25 2:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Thank you!
You would not happen to know if Rust Desk supports Multi Factor Authentication?
What does "unattended Linux support" mean in your case?
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user. I have my own nasty password to get in. A lot of my business customer want me to work after hours so as to not disrupt their work day.
AnyDesk, HelpWire, Go To Assist, Team Viewer all have this feature with Windows clients
On Mar 27, 2025, at 21:33, ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 3/27/25 2:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Thank you!
You would not happen to know if Rust Desk supports Multi Factor Authentication?
What does "unattended Linux support" mean in your case?
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user. I have my own nasty password to get in. A lot of my business customer want me to work after hours so as to not disrupt their work day.
AnyDesk, HelpWire, Go To Assist, Team Viewer all have this feature with Windows clients.
With many of the mentioned services, you’re connecting to an established windows login session and sharing that screen, correct? Is that what you want, only on Linux?
If not, I’m curious why SSH isn’t enough for remote troubleshooting? Using SSH has a lot of advantages, and can be locked down and limited to certain subnets, and can be set up to use 2FA. Throw in something like Tailscale or some other VPN, and you can limit exposure of the SSH port to the internet. Then, if you absolutely must use a graphical remote access, you can forward it over ssh.
On 3/27/25 6:58 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
AnyDesk, HelpWire, Go To Assist, Team Viewer all have this feature with Windows clients.
With many of the mentioned services, you’re connecting to an established windows login session and sharing that screen, correct? Is that what you want, only on Linux?
Yes. I am able to do it with AnyDesk and HelpWire, although very poorly.
If not, I’m curious why SSH isn’t enough for remote troubleshooting? Using SSH has a lot of advantages, and can be locked down and limited to certain subnets, and can be set up to use 2FA. Throw in something like Tailscale or some other VPN, and you can limit exposure of the SSH port to the internet. Then, if you absolutely must use a graphical remote access, you can forward it over ssh.
"ssh -X" is how I get by on this one particular Fedora server. Ssh is fast and stable.
"vi" is an invaluable.
Well written sparse programs such as Leafpad, Geany will render, but a slow. Caja works too for file transfer,
Sometimes though, I need to actually have access to a GUI, such as administering the Watchguard Firebox firewall and running virt-manager (command line is available to that, but the GUI version is easier).
On 3/27/25 9:05 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 6:58 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
If not, I’m curious why SSH isn’t enough for remote troubleshooting? Using SSH has a lot of advantages, and can be locked down and limited to certain subnets, and can be set up to use 2FA. Throw in something like Tailscale or some other VPN, and you can limit exposure of the SSH port to the internet. Then, if you absolutely must use a graphical remote access, you can forward it over ssh.
"ssh -X" is how I get by on this one particular Fedora server. Ssh is fast and stable.
"vi" is an invaluable.
Well written sparse programs such as Leafpad, Geany will render, but a slow. Caja works too for file transfer,
Sometimes though, I need to actually have access to a GUI, such as administering the Watchguard Firebox firewall and running virt-manager (command line is available to that, but the GUI version is easier).
I've run virt-manager over SSH, but I do have a VNC desktop running for the rare cases that I need to use a GUI for some reason.
On 2025-03-27 21:16, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user.
Take a look at "NoMachine". I use it to connect to *NIX and Win machines on daily bases.
Cheers Frank
On 3/28/25 7:29 AM, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2025-03-27 21:16, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user.
Take a look at "NoMachine". I use it to connect to *NIX and Win machines on daily bases.
Cheers Frank
Hi Frank,
Do you happen to know if no machine supports:
1) multifactor authentication?
2) Wayland?
3) unattended support (log on with out user intervention)?
Many thanks, -T
On 2025-03-28 17:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi Frank,
Do you happen to know if no machine supports:
multifactor authentication?
Wayland?
unattended support (log on with out user intervention)?
AFAIK:
1. The authentication is the same as is of the user you are login in to the remote host as. You define the login process when you create a remote host definition in the "NoMachine". So if the login to the remote host requires 2FA, so would your login from "NoMachine".
2. Yes. I am using it under Wayland.
3. You log in without any intervention at the remote site. For instance when you are login to a remote Windows machine, as soon as the service there is running, you can log in even if the machine is still in the process of installing updates. If there is no one logged in as you at the remote site, you will see the login screen. Once you log in, there is a bubble notification at the remote site saying "your desktop is viewed from $IP_ADDRESS". I do not know if you can log in as another user once someone is already logged in at the remote site. You are welcome to try, the SW is free for non-commercial use, AFAIK. At least I have not payed for it and it is fully functional. I use it on all my *NIX and WIN* machines at home. Saves me running up and down the stairs :-)
Cheers Frank
On 3/27/25 6:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 2:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Thank you!
You would not happen to know if Rust Desk supports Multi Factor Authentication?
You can set a pre-shared password on all versions, but the Pro server version mentions 2FA. But remember that if you're running your own server, all connections have to go through that, so you already have a certain amount of security.
What does "unattended Linux support" mean in your case?
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user. I have my own nasty password to get in. A lot of my business customer want me to work after hours so as to not disrupt their work day.
AnyDesk, HelpWire, Go To Assist, Team Viewer all have this feature with Windows clients
It's available on Windows and I think it works on Linux if installed and running as a service. I'll try to test this out soon.
On 3/27/25 8:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 6:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 2:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Thank you!
You would not happen to know if Rust Desk supports Multi Factor Authentication?
You can set a pre-shared password on all versions, but the Pro server version mentions 2FA. But remember that if you're running your own server, all connections have to go through that, so you already have a certain amount of security.
What does "unattended Linux support" mean in your case?
Means I can log directly into the machine without the needing to interact with the user. I have my own nasty password to get in. A lot of my business customer want me to work after hours so as to not disrupt their work day.
AnyDesk, HelpWire, Go To Assist, Team Viewer all have this feature with Windows clients
It's available on Windows and I think it works on Linux if installed and running as a service. I'll try to test this out soon.
Do you know of a service that will host it for me?
On 3/29/25 4:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 8:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Do you know of a service that will host it for me?
I don't know of one, but I haven't looked. It's just a couple of processes to run on an internet-accessible Linux system. At least for the free one. I don't know if the Pro version needs more.
On 3/29/25 10:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/29/25 4:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 8:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Do you know of a service that will host it for me?
I don't know of one, but I haven't looked. It's just a couple of processes to run on an internet-accessible Linux system. At least for the free one. I don't know if the Pro version needs more.
I am more than willing to pay a reasonable fee
On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 1:33 AM ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 3/29/25 10:12 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/29/25 4:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 3/27/25 8:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Do you know of a service that will host it for me?
I don't know of one, but I haven't looked. It's just a couple of processes to run on an internet-accessible Linux system. At least for the free one. I don't know if the Pro version needs more.
I am more than willing to pay a reasonable fee
Purchase a VPS from Hostinger.
Jeff
On 3/29/25 10:35 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
Do you know of a service that will host it for me?
I don't know of one, but I haven't looked. It's just a couple of processes to run on an internet-accessible Linux system. At least for the free one. I don't know if the Pro version needs more.
I am more than willing to pay a reasonable fee
Purchase a VPS from Hostinger.
Jeff
Rent a cloud server. Hmmmmmm .... Did not think of that. Thank you
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 02:35:47PM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Maybe that was me? I've suggested RustDesk before. I was actually going to reply to your thread from a while ago to suggest it again, but I wanted to test it more against Wayland first. I still haven't got around to that yet, but I'll still recommend it. I've only used it for Windows clients and it works great. Last I used it, there was still a warning in the interface that Wayland support is experimental, but that means they're working on it.
Do you know if there is a repository to pull it from?
Versus manually checking and updating it.
-- Patrick
On 3/27/25 1:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
A while back I asked about Remote Access Tools (RAT's) that were Fedora friendly. Someone recommend an open source version that you could self host or pay someone to host for you. Anyone remember what that was or have any other suggestions?
AnyDesk only supports X11 and refuses to support Wayland.
HelpWire support Wayland abut does not have unattended Linus support (and is really buggy at the moment).
TeamViewer is way too expensive.
Many thanks, -T
Anyone know of a rustdesk server service that is not self hosted? Available with a paid subscription?
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