Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
poc
On 07/26/16 06:57, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
Could very well be. I ignored the BT mice thread since I don't have one.
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
I was the OP on that thread. I saw the trusted setting and am fairly sure I tried it with no improvement.
I stopped using the bt mouse. Even turned off bt in the bios. Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back
jon
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Thanks for responding.
I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no mention of BT in the tweak tool. I'll hunt around.
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Thanks for responding.
I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no mention of BT in the tweak tool. I'll hunt around.
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
poc
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:56:40 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth may be just as dumbed down for gnome).
On 07/26/2016 01:15 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:56:40 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth may be just as dumbed down for gnome). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Thanks, I'll have a look and report back if anything good happens
On 07/26/2016 10:15 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
If you do a "dnf search bluetooth" you'll find what appear to be several different bluetooth utilities. Some may be dumber than others (certainly the new and improved gnome control center printer tool has forced me to use the cups web interface to get any actual printer tasks done, bluetooth may be just as dumbed down for gnome).
I use system-config-printer.
On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Thanks for responding.
I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no mention of BT in the tweak tool. I'll hunt around.
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I said, an "Accept Automatically" choice. But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't appear to be an equivalent setting in the command line interface.
I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my headset would connect automatically in that environment.
On 07/27/2016 08:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Thanks for responding.
I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no mention of BT in the tweak tool. I'll hunt around.
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I said, an "Accept Automatically" choice. But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't appear to be an equivalent setting in the command line interface.
I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my headset would connect automatically in that environment.
Here's progress: Use bluetoothctl and set "trust" on for the speaker device. After the next re-boot the device connected when powered on just like before. (I just didn't know about the existence of bluetoothctl)
Thanks, all
On 07/27/2016 11:14 AM, Roger Wells wrote:
On 07/27/2016 08:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 23:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 09:35 -0400, Roger Wells wrote:
On 07/25/2016 05:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Thanks for responding.
I don't see any Advanced Settings offer via the Gnome desktop and no mention of BT in the tweak tool. I'll hunt around.
To be clear: this was in KDE. I don't know what the equivalent Gnome control is.
One thing that "confuses" me is that within the KDE settings there is, as I said, an "Accept Automatically" choice. But if you use bluetoothctl there doesn't appear to be an equivalent setting in the command line interface.
I don't currently have GNOME installed on my system in order to check if my headset would connect automatically in that environment.
Here's progress: Use bluetoothctl and set "trust" on for the speaker device. After the next re-boot the device connected when powered on just like before. (I just didn't know about the existence of bluetoothctl)
Thanks, all
Well, not so good. It only did it once even though bluetoothctl still reports it as trusted.
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:33:00AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
I was the OP on that thread. I saw the trusted setting and am fairly sure I tried it with no improvement.
I stopped using the bt mouse. Even turned off bt in the bios. Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back
It seems "trust" is the key. I had difficulty turning it on for my mouse device. In blueman-manager, there are menu items and a separate icon button to turn on trust. These did not complain but didn't set the mouse as a trusted device either.
I went into bluetoothctl, found the device id, and used the trust <dev_id> command. It reported setting "trust succeeded". Sure enough, when I went back into the gui blueman-manager, it was showing the trust icon for my mouse.
Now rebooting with the mouse on, or starting the mouse after booting, it comes right up.
Seems like blueman-manager needs a fix to get trust working.
Jon
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 01:33:00AM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:57:24PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 05:55 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 07/26/16 02:49, Roger Wells wrote:
Something changed (although not fatally): I use Bluetooth speakers quite often. Back in F22 or so after pairing the device merely turning it on caused Fedora to connect to it. Several months ago, now on F23, (not sure when this problem appeared) that changed and after turning the speaker on, I have to go into Bluetooth Settings where the device appears as "Disconnected", select it and activate the "Connection" switch several times and it will eventually connect and be available for selection in the "Sound Settings" after which it works fine. Is there a path back?
The setup is up to date Fedora 23 using Gnome 3.18.1-1.fc23.x86_64 TIA,
I use F24, a Bluetooth headset, and KDE. The GUI may be different but I think gnome should have similar settings.
On my settings for the headset I have "trusted" checked. Then there is another "tab" called "Advanced Settings". There is a drop down box for "Accept Automatically" and I have "Trusted Devices" selected.
When I power on my headset it is connected automatically.
Interesting. A recent thread (around July 8) concerned similar problems with BT mice. I wonder if this is the solution. I confess I'd never looked at the Advanced Settings when trying to solve this.
I was the OP on that thread. I saw the trusted setting and am fairly sure I tried it with no improvement.
I stopped using the bt mouse. Even turned off bt in the bios. Will revisit the issue with the trusted setting and report back
See my posting today "RE bluetooth mouse [SOLVED]" for a fuller description. In short, I had tried to set the mouse to a trusted device using blueman commands such as blueman-manager. I tried again but it did not allow automatic connection of the mouse.
Now I tried the "trust" sub-command of bluetoothctl. It did succeed in setting the mouse as a trusted device. And the mouse automatically connects after boot.
Jon
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