Everyone,
Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new install, but I have not been able to fix the problem. Of course it is easy to blame a kernel update, but I have not seen any other posts that specifically address this.
This machine is an HP laptop (AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2) with ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller].
At the time of the fresh install gnome3 would not work, and automatically dropped back to fail safe mode.
In the manner that I did on the original install I did the following :
#1. Install of akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst from rpmfusion #2. Removal of nomodeset from grub2.cfg
gnome-shell has been installed : Package gnome-shell-3.2.2.1-1.fc16.x86_64 already installed and latest version
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg Ennis
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
Joe,
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
Greg
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you can, there's a software issue. In either case, you'll have a much better idea of where to look than you do now.
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you can, there's a software issue. In either case, you'll have a much better idea of where to look than you do now.
Joe, I'll start the download!!, but the original system would not work without akmod-catalyst from rpmfusion. I've never downloaded a liveCD so it will be good to do no matter what.
Greg
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 10:35 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new install, but I have not been able to fix the problem. Of course it is easy to blame a kernel update, but I have not seen any other posts that specifically address this.
This machine is an HP laptop (AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2) with ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller].
At the time of the fresh install gnome3 would not work, and automatically dropped back to fail safe mode.
In the manner that I did on the original install I did the following :
#1. Install of akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst from rpmfusion #2. Removal of nomodeset from grub2.cfg
gnome-shell has been installed : Package gnome-shell-3.2.2.1-1.fc16.x86_64 already installed and latest version
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg Ennis
I have been having the same problem for months. No o ne has come up with a good reason I can only get fallsafe mode. On the other hand I like it better than the normal mode. I will be interested if you find as solution.7
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 08:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not. ======================================================================= "I'd love to go out with you, but there are important world issues that need worrying about." ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you can, there's a software issue. In either case, you'll have a much better idea of where to look than you do now.
Joe, I'll start the download!!, but the original system would not work without akmod-catalyst from rpmfusion. I've never downloaded a liveCD so it will be good to do no matter what.
Greg -----------------------------------------------------------
The CD I created with Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso did not work. It booted to the boot screen, then after the process started the screen turned gray for a short while, and then black. The CD kept being accessed for a time and finally stopped being accessed. The black screen did not change.
I did not think this would work without akmod.catalyst, but it might be a fair way for others to test their system to see if gnome3 is going to work without additional drivers.
Does anyone know if F17 is going to address this problem ????
Greg
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you can, there's a software issue. In either case, you'll have a much better idea of where to look than you do now.
Joe, I'll start the download!!, but the original system would not work without akmod-catalyst from rpmfusion. I've never downloaded a liveCD so it will be good to do no matter what.
Greg -----------------------------------------------------------
The CD I created with Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso did not work. It booted to the boot screen, then after the process started the screen turned gray for a short while, and then black. The CD kept being accessed for a time and finally stopped being accessed. The black screen did not change.
I did not think this would work without akmod.catalyst, but it might be a fair way for others to test their system to see if gnome3 is going to work without additional drivers.
Does anyone know if F17 is going to address this problem ????
Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone,
Good News !!!!
I took the liberty to download Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-Live-Deskt op.iso, and was able to boot into gnome3. There were several screen warnings as the 17 LiveCD booted, and it took much longer than I would have anticipated, but I was able to use gnome3 as the DE. There was the presence of some screen flickering from time to time, but that was also present with akmod-catalyst.
It looks to me that Fedora 17 is going to fly with "ATI Technologies Device 9648"
In thinking about all of the changes being made in the gui with Fedora I think it would be good to always download the LiveCD to test the hardware before you upgrade. I have been fighting this battle with Fedora 15 and 16. If I had thought of testing my hardware with the LiveCD of each version, I would have had much less grief, and would have stayed with Fedora 14.
Interesting... the background image for F17 includes a fireworks display, that is exactly the way I felt when it worked :)
Greg
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
On 03/25/2012 08:49 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I have not tried that, surely easy to do, I'll need to download the LiveCD iso. What would you expect to find?
If you can't get into Gnome3 from the LiveCD, it's probably not a kernel update causing it as the image isn't kept updated. If you can, there's a software issue. In either case, you'll have a much better idea of where to look than you do now.
Joe, I'll start the download!!, but the original system would not work without akmod-catalyst from rpmfusion. I've never downloaded a liveCD so it will be good to do no matter what.
Greg
The CD I created with Fedora-16-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso did not work. It booted to the boot screen, then after the process started the screen turned gray for a short while, and then black. The CD kept being accessed for a time and finally stopped being accessed. The black screen did not change.
Did you try starting in compatible mode? If that doesn't work you do have an issue, but if the Live-CD works I assume that an "upgrade" broke the working system (not exactly an unheard of thing).
I did not think this would work without akmod.catalyst, but it might be a fair way for others to test their system to see if gnome3 is going to work without additional drivers.
I never load alternate drivers unless the ones in the distro fail to work. The state of video since GNOME3 is so fragile that I take what I can get working. The whole concept of requiring acceleration when the free drivers don't work is "mystery think" to me.
Does anyone know if F17 is going to address this problem ????
Greg
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 08:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not.
That suggests a software "upgrade" is the cause for diminished functionality.
======================================================================= "I'd love to go out with you, but there are important world issues that need worrying about." ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 14:50 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2012-03-25 at 08:46 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/25/2012 08:35 AM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not.
That suggests a software "upgrade" is the cause for diminished functionality.
Ok, but understand I did not upgrade a previous system. I installed a fresh operating system from a DVD. So why does the system not run with Gnome 3. F15 installed without problem in Gnome2.
On 03/28/2012 04:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not.
See if this helps:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html
- Mike
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 07:57 -0400, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote:
On 03/28/2012 04:55 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
What happens when you boot from a LiveCD?
II my case the live DVD comes up in regular Gnome 3 mode but the i -- installed system does not.
See if this helps:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408334.html
- Mike
Well that did it. Thanks
Everyone,
Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new install, but I have not been able to fix the problem. Of course it is easy to blame a kernel update, but I have not seen any other posts that specifically address this.
This machine is an HP laptop (AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2) with ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller].
At the time of the fresh install gnome3 would not work, and automatically dropped back to fail safe mode.
In the manner that I did on the original install I did the following :
#1. Install of akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst from rpmfusion #2. Removal of nomodeset from grub2.cfg
gnome-shell has been installed : Package gnome-shell-3.2.2.1-1.fc16.x86_64 already installed and latest version
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg Ennis -------------------------------------------------------------------------
Everyone,
The new kernel just released 3.3.0-8.fc16.x86_64 fixes the problems with this ATI 9648 controller. I now have gnome3 working on F16. After the installation of the new kernel my laptop failed to present the login screen; all that appeared was a black screen, but I could access the laptop remotely with a terminal interface.
I had to yum remove akmod-catalyst as well and xorg-x11-drv-catalyst. After these were removed and When I rebooted I was able to get into gnome3.
Greg
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 14:31 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new install, but I have not been able to fix the problem. Of course it is easy to blame a kernel update, but I have not seen any other posts that specifically address this.
This machine is an HP laptop (AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2) with ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller].
At the time of the fresh install gnome3 would not work, and automatically dropped back to fail safe mode.
In the manner that I did on the original install I did the following :
#1. Install of akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst from rpmfusion #2. Removal of nomodeset from grub2.cfg
How did you remove nomodset? You need to edit /etc/default/grub file to remove the nomodset. Then run: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
.
gnome-shell has been installed : Package gnome-shell-3.2.2.1-1.fc16.x86_64 already installed and latest version
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg Ennis
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 14:31 -0500, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
Just when I was getting accustomed to gnome3, and liking it, my system switched to fallback mode automatically. I thought the problem was something I had done, and when I tried to fix it I only made things much worse and eventually even broke yum. I decided to start over with a new install, but I have not been able to fix the problem. Of course it is easy to blame a kernel update, but I have not seen any other posts that specifically address this.
This machine is an HP laptop (AMD A4-3300M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics × 2) with ATI Technologies Inc Device 9648 (prog-if 00 [VGA controller].
At the time of the fresh install gnome3 would not work, and automatically dropped back to fail safe mode.
In the manner that I did on the original install I did the following :
#1. Install of akmod-catalyst xorg-x11-drv-catalyst from rpmfusion #2. Removal of nomodeset from grub2.cfg
How did you remove nomodset? You need to edit /etc/default/grub file to remove the nomodset. Then run: grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
.
gnome-shell has been installed : Package gnome-shell-3.2.2.1-1.fc16.x86_64 already installed and latest version
I am still unable to boot to gnome3 without going to failsafe mode; your help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Greg Ennis
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