Hi,
ever since I upgraded to F18 trailers from trailers.apple.com are playing with poor quality (audio is fine, but video isn't fluid, it's like some frames are skipped and some parts of the screen aren't updated when they should be).
I haven't had any trouble with these trailers for a long time already. Chrome says its Quicktime plugin is being handled by /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so which is owned by totem-mozplugin package. I have also installed all the -bad and -ugly gstreamer plugins I could find:
gstreamer-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-libav-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.0.5-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-13.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.22-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.8-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.8.7-1.fc18.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.2-2.fc18.x86_64
Anyone knows what could be wrong? Is this a known issue?
Regards,
Andre
On 02/06/2013 08:07 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to F18 trailers from trailers.apple.com http://trailers.apple.com are playing with poor quality (audio is fine, but video isn't fluid, it's like some frames are skipped and some parts of the screen aren't updated when they should be).
I haven't had any trouble with these trailers for a long time already. Chrome says its Quicktime plugin is being handled by /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so which is owned by totem-mozplugin package. I have also installed all the -bad and -ugly gstreamer plugins I could find:
gstreamer-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-libav-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.0.5-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-13.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.22-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.8-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.8.7-1.fc18.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.2-2.fc18.x86_64
Anyone knows what could be wrong? Is this a known issue?
FWIW, I just went to the site and watched several trailers without issue. What is running is, as you point out, is /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
Fully updated F18-64 system.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 02/06/2013 08:07 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Hi,
ever since I upgraded to F18 trailers from trailers.apple.com <
http://trailers.apple.com%3E are playing with poor quality (audio is fine, but video isn't fluid, it's like some frames are skipped and some parts of the screen aren't updated when they should be).
I haven't had any trouble with these trailers for a long time already.
Chrome says its Quicktime plugin is being handled by /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so which is owned by totem-mozplugin package. I have also installed all the -bad and -ugly gstreamer plugins I could find:
gstreamer-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-libav-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.0.2-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.0.5-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.0.5-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.13-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-0.10.23-2.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-bad-free-0.10.23-13.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10.36-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-espeak-0.4.0-1.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.31-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-ugly-0.10.19-5.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-python-0.10.22-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-rtsp-0.10.8-3.fc18.x86_64 gstreamer-tools-0.10.36-2.fc18.x86_64 PackageKit-gstreamer-plugin-0.8.7-1.fc18.x86_64 phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.6.2-2.fc18.x86_64
Anyone knows what could be wrong? Is this a known issue?
FWIW, I just went to the site and watched several trailers without issue. What is running is, as you point out, is /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
Fully updated F18-64 system.
Mmmh,,, that's weird, it's the same configuration here (fully updated F18-64 system), but all videos play with the issues I mentioned. I'm using NVidia driver 310.32 installed from their own installer (Freshrpms is still one version behind, I'm giving this a try). What video driver are you using?
Regards,
Andre
On 02/06/2013 08:49 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Mmmh,,, that's weird, it's the same configuration here (fully updated F18-64 system), but all videos play with the issues I mentioned. I'm using NVidia driver 310.32 installed from their own installer (Freshrpms is still one version behind, I'm giving this a try). What video driver are you using?
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
is my hardware and I use the nVidia drivers installed using rpmfusion's akmod-nvidia
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 02/06/2013 08:49 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Mmmh,,, that's weird, it's the same configuration here (fully updated
F18-64 system), but all videos play with the issues I mentioned. I'm using NVidia driver 310.32 installed from their own installer (Freshrpms is still one version behind, I'm giving this a try). What video driver are you using?
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
is my hardware and I use the nVidia drivers installed using rpmfusion's akmod-nvidia
... which makes this even weirder :-P Well, thks for the info, I'll have to keep looking for the culprit.
Regards,
Andre
Here's an example of what I'm talking about: quicktime quality.pnghttps://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByC8z6K9bo98MTlJTS1TUkpaR0k/edit
(and this is just one of the quirks I see)
Regards,
Andre
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Andre Costa blueser@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.comwrote:
On 02/06/2013 08:49 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Mmmh,,, that's weird, it's the same configuration here (fully updated
F18-64 system), but all videos play with the issues I mentioned. I'm using NVidia driver 310.32 installed from their own installer (Freshrpms is still one version behind, I'm giving this a try). What video driver are you using?
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
is my hardware and I use the nVidia drivers installed using rpmfusion's akmod-nvidia
... which makes this even weirder :-P Well, thks for the info, I'll have to keep looking for the culprit.
Regards,
Andre
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Andre Costa blueser@gmail.com wrote:
(and this is just one of the quirks I see)
probably gstreamer and friends is sucking too much of your cpu with overhead and thus pixelation occurs due to lack of cpu time for realtime high quality decoding.
I repeat, try vlc and/or mplayer with its firefox plugins which imho has much more optimized video decoding than what the gstreamer spaghetti code provides.
Is your cpu old and/or are you playing this on battery power (so cpu doesn´t use 100% of its speed).
FC
On 02/06/2013 11:38 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Andre Costa <blueser@gmail.com mailto:blueser@gmail.com> wrote:
(and this is just one of the quirks I see)probably gstreamer and friends is sucking too much of your cpu with overhead and thus pixelation occurs due to lack of cpu time for realtime high quality decoding.
I repeat, try vlc and/or mplayer with its firefox plugins which imho has much more optimized video decoding than what the gstreamer spaghetti code provides.
Is your cpu old and/or are you playing this on battery power (so cpu doesn´t use 100% of its speed).
I have what I believe is pretty much all the vlc and mplayer stuff installed. I mainly use chrome. But, when I bring up firefox and enter "about:config" I find
QuickTime Plug-in 7.6.6
File: libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
You seem to be saying there is a vlc plugin that can be used instead. Can you tell me the plugin name and what package has the plugin?
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
You seem to be saying there is a vlc plugin that can be used instead. Can you tell me the plugin name and what package has the plugin?
Unless they removed it, package name was mozilla-vlc In other distros, mozilla-plugin-vlc
Sadly the documentation at the vlc page for Fedora is a bit outdated http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-fedora.html
FC
On 02/06/2013 12:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko@greshko.com mailto:Ed.Greshko@greshko.com> wrote:
You seem to be saying there is a vlc plugin that can be used instead. Can you tell me the plugin name and what package has the plugin?Unless they removed it, package name was mozilla-vlc In other distros, mozilla-plugin-vlc
Sadly the documentation at the vlc page for Fedora is a bit outdated http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-fedora.html
No such animal in the Fedora or RPMFusion repos.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Fernando Cassia fcassia@gmail.com wrote:
Unless they removed it, package name was mozilla-vlc In other distros, mozilla-plugin-vlc
Sadly the documentation at the vlc page for Fedora is a bit outdated http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-fedora.html
http://packages.atrpms.net/dist/f17/vlc/vlc-2.0.3.spec.html
--- Sun Feb 26 13:00:00 2012 Paulo Roma - 2.0.0-1 - Update to 2.0.0 - Adapted spec file. - No more mozilla plugin. [WTF?!] - Added BR libsamplerate-devel and libbluray-devel. ---
I am now contacting Nicolas Chauvet who did the changelog for vlc 2.05 @ rpmfusion to find out what´s the story wrt the missing plugin.
FC
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Fernando Cassia fcassia@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Andre Costa blueser@gmail.com wrote:
(and this is just one of the quirks I see)
probably gstreamer and friends is sucking too much of your cpu with overhead and thus pixelation occurs due to lack of cpu time for realtime high quality decoding.
I repeat, try vlc and/or mplayer with its firefox plugins which imho has much more optimized video decoding than what the gstreamer spaghetti code provides.
Is your cpu old and/or are you playing this on battery power (so cpu doesn´t use 100% of its speed).
Quite the contrary: this is a 8-core i7 desktop with a GeForce GT9800. It should handle any videos just fine ;-) (as it always has done until F18). There's clearly something wrong, I just don't know exactly what it is. CPU usage doesn't spike too much while watching videos.
Regards,
Andre
On 02/06/2013 04:26 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Quite the contrary: this is a 8-core i7 desktop with a GeForce GT9800. It should handle any videos just fine ;-) (as it always has done until F18). There's clearly something wrong, I just don't know exactly what it is. CPU usage doesn't spike too much while watching videos
Have you tried running top in a terminal while this is going on? It can't hurt to know what process is using most of your CPU time when the videos slow down.
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 02/06/2013 04:26 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
Quite the contrary: this is a 8-core i7 desktop with a GeForce GT9800. It should handle any videos just fine ;-) (as it always has done until F18). There's clearly something wrong, I just don't know exactly what it is. CPU usage doesn't spike too much while watching videos
Have you tried running top in a terminal while this is going on? It can't hurt to know what process is using most of your CPU time when the videos slow down.
Thks Joe, I'll try that. But it doesn't look like it's a high CPU usage issue, it looks as if video decoding is buggy.
I just tested getting rid of totem-mozplugin and installing gecko-mediaplayer (which uses MPlayer). Firefox is now able to play videos just fine, so it does seem to be some issue with Totem (or, more specifically, GStreamer?). However, gecko-mediaplayer doesn't get along well with Chrome, it simply can't load the plugin. So, either I switch back to Firefox or I use it only when I want to watch Quicktime movies.
Damn :-/
On 02/06/2013 11:20 AM, Andre Costa wrote:
... which makes this even weirder :-P Well, thks for the info, I'll have to keep looking for the culprit.
One thing to check.....
First, since you are running Chome, check to see that "Background apps" is un-checked in "Advanced Settings". Then, quit chrome and make sure there a no chrome processes still running.
Second, start chrome again and see if your video plays any better.
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Andre Costa blueser@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone knows what could be wrong? Is this a known issue?
yes, gstreamer has always sucked. Install VLC and the VLC Mozilla plugins.
or MPlayer + mplayerplug-in, for that matter.
FC
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Fernando Cassia fcassia@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Andre Costa blueser@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone knows what could be wrong? Is this a known issue?
yes, gstreamer has always sucked. Install VLC and the VLC Mozilla plugins.
or MPlayer + mplayerplug-in, for that matter.
Thks, I'll give VLC a try. It's weird, though, because as far as I recall I used to use gstreamer and have no complaints about it.
Regards,
Andre
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