terminal server

[azeem ahmad]

hi list
is there any terminal server for Fedora Core that is not resourse intensive, 
it may be supporting a very few clients but should not be resourse hungry
Regards
Azeem

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[Paul Lemmons]

If I am reading between the lines correctly, you have multiple users
that you want to be able to connect to a box running FC4 at the same
time and you ant to do so with out the box expending too much energy
serving up the sessions. If this is right I think you have two options:

If all of your users are console (text only) users they can connect to
the box using:
   ssh       (works out of the box)
   telnet    (requires a little setup to get it to work)
   rlogin    (also requires some setup to get it to work)

If they are needing access to GUI applications:
   They need to be running an X client/server
      If users are using Windows checkout
         Reflections X ($)
         Hummingbird   ($)
      If they are also Fedora/Unix users
         they already have the software on their box (free)

Is this what you were looking for?

On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:22 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> hi list
> is there any terminal server for Fedora Core that is not resourse intensive, 
> it may be supporting a very few clients but should not be resourse hungry
> Regards
> Azeem
>
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[azeem ahmad]

in fact i got Linux server and windows clients, i want windows clients to 
access Linux machine's GUI,
i have done this by sharing the Linux desktop with rdesktop and using 
tightvnc viewer on windows clients, but in fact i dont want a shared desktop 
on client, instead i want different desktop for every individual, mean every 
client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the Linux 
server local desktop and any clients desktop
Regards
Azeem
> From: Paul Lemmons 
> Reply-To: [e-mail],For users of Fedora Core releases 
>
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> Subject: Re: terminal server
> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:44:04 -0700
>
> If I am reading between the lines correctly, you have multiple users
> that you want to be able to connect to a box running FC4 at the same
> time and you ant to do so with out the box expending too much energy
> serving up the sessions. If this is right I think you have two options:
>
> If all of your users are console (text only) users they can connect to
> the box using:
>    ssh       (works out of the box)
>    telnet    (requires a little setup to get it to work)
>    rlogin    (also requires some setup to get it to work)
>
> If they are needing access to GUI applications:
>    They need to be running an X client/server
>       If users are using Windows checkout
>          Reflections X ($)
>          Hummingbird   ($)
>       If they are also Fedora/Unix users
>          they already have the software on their box (free)
>
> Is this what you were looking for?
>
> On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:22 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> > hi list
> > is there any terminal server for Fedora Core that is not resourse
>
> intensive,
> > it may be supporting a very few clients but should not be resourse
>
> hungry
> > Regards
> > Azeem
> >
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[Ed Marshall]

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:06 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> i want different desktop for every individual, mean every 
> client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the Linux 
> server local desktop and any clients desktop

You want X, then.

On the server, configure gdm to allow XDMCP logins. See this thread for
assistance:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-April/thread.html#03669

Give the users an X server implementation for their desktops
(http://www.cygwin.com/ has a build of x.org available for windows that
works like a champ).

Viola, you're all set. Good luck!

[azeem ahmad]

i studied both but didnt get any sense :(, in fact what i want to implement 
is that through windows XP build in Remote Desktop Client connecting Linux 
server's GUI.
> From: "Edward S. Marshall" 
> Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> Subject: Re: terminal server
> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:18:53 -0600
>
> On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:06 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> > i want different desktop for every individual, mean every
> > client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the
>
> Linux
> > server local desktop and any clients desktop
>
> You want X, then.
>
> On the server, configure gdm to allow XDMCP logins. See this thread for
> assistance:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-April/thread.html#03669
>
> Give the users an X server implementation for their desktops
> (http://www.cygwin.com/ has a build of x.org available for windows that
> works like a champ).
>
> Viola, you're all set. Good luck!
>
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[Florin Andrei]

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:50 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> i studied both but didnt get any sense :(, in fact what i want to implement 
> is that through windows XP build in Remote Desktop Client connecting Linux 
> server's GUI.

If I am not mistaken, the XP RDC does not understand the remote desktop
protocols that are offered natively by Fedora and/or Red Hat.
You have to install a different remote desktop client. See the
previously mentioned solutions.

[Paul Lemmons]

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:50 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> i studied both but didnt get any sense :(, in fact what i want to implement 
> is that through windows XP build in Remote Desktop Client connecting Linux 
> server's GUI.

If what you are wanting is the Windows "Remote Desktop Client" itself to
be able to access Linux you are out of luck. Linux does not run an RDP
service. It only has RDP clients.

If what you are wanting is _functionality_ of the Windows RDP server,
that is implemented in Linux via the X environment. The suggestions
given so far are really your only options.

[Les Mikesell]

On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 13:50, azeem ahmad wrote:
> i studied both but didnt get any sense :(, in fact what i want to implement 
> is that through windows XP build in Remote Desktop Client connecting Linux 
> server's GUI.

To make sense of it, you have to understand X terminology.  An
X server serves a display and keyboard to programs that are
clients.   Thus you have to install X server software on
the desktop pc's you would call clients.

[Aly Dharshi]

Personally you would have to think of it this way, just like Windows has 
Terminal Server , and a Remote Desktop Client software, similarly you may want 
to think of FreeNX server as the Win Term Server equivalent and the NX client 
software as the RDP client aka Remote Desktop Client Software.

Cheers,

Aly.

azeem ahmad wrote:
> i studied both but didnt get any sense :(, in fact what i want to 
> implement is that through windows XP build in Remote Desktop Client 
> connecting Linux server's GUI.
> > From: "Edward S. Marshall" 
> > Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> > Subject: Re: terminal server
> > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:18:53 -0600
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:06 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> > > i want different desktop for every individual, mean every
> > > client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the
> >
> > Linux
> > > server local desktop and any clients desktop
> >
> > You want X, then.
> >
> > On the server, configure gdm to allow XDMCP logins. See this thread for
> > assistance:
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2004-April/thread.html#03669
> >
> > Give the users an X server implementation for their desktops
> > (http://www.cygwin.com/ has a build of x.org available for windows that
> > works like a champ).
> >
> > Viola, you're all set. Good luck!
> >
> > -- 
> > Edward S. Marshall 
> > http://esm.logic.net/
> > Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.
> >
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[Aly Dharshi]

Or look at nomachine.com which sells NX server additionally there is FreeNX 
which you can look into and its supposed to be really good for what it does.

Cheers,

Aly.

azeem ahmad wrote:
> in fact i got Linux server and windows clients, i want windows clients 
> to access Linux machine's GUI,
> i have done this by sharing the Linux desktop with rdesktop and using 
> tightvnc viewer on windows clients, but in fact i dont want a shared 
> desktop on client, instead i want different desktop for every 
> individual, mean every client who logs in must get his own desktop 
> without interrupting the Linux server local desktop and any clients desktop
> Regards
> Azeem
> > From: Paul Lemmons 
> > Reply-To: [e-mail],For users of Fedora Core releases 
> >
> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> > Subject: Re: terminal server
> > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:44:04 -0700
> >
> > If I am reading between the lines correctly, you have multiple users
> > that you want to be able to connect to a box running FC4 at the same
> > time and you ant to do so with out the box expending too much energy
> > serving up the sessions. If this is right I think you have two options:
> >
> > If all of your users are console (text only) users they can connect to
> > the box using:
> >    ssh       (works out of the box)
> >    telnet    (requires a little setup to get it to work)
> >    rlogin    (also requires some setup to get it to work)
> >
> > If they are needing access to GUI applications:
> >    They need to be running an X client/server
> >       If users are using Windows checkout
> >          Reflections X ($)
> >          Hummingbird   ($)
> >       If they are also Fedora/Unix users
> >          they already have the software on their box (free)
> >
> > Is this what you were looking for?
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:22 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> > > hi list
> > > is there any terminal server for Fedora Core that is not resourse
> >
> > intensive,
> > > it may be supporting a very few clients but should not be resourse
> >
> > hungry
> > > Regards
> > > Azeem
> > >
> > > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search!
> > > http://search.msn.com/
> >
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[Les Mikesell]

On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 13:06, azeem ahmad wrote:
> in fact i got Linux server and windows clients, i want windows clients to 
> access Linux machine's GUI,
> i have done this by sharing the Linux desktop with rdesktop and using 
> tightvnc viewer on windows clients, but in fact i dont want a shared desktop 
> on client, instead i want different desktop for every individual, mean every 
> client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the Linux 
> server local desktop and any clients desktop

There are at least 3 ways that will work.  One is to install
X on the windows boxes (the free cygwin version is fine), enable
XDCMP on the server and log in with 'xwin -query server'.  Or
you can use -multiwindow mode if you just want to run individual
apps from Linux instead of a whole desktop.  The latter mode
would consume the least server resources.

Another is to let xinetd start the vnc sessions so everyone
gets their own.  This would take no changes on the windows
side but has slighly worse performance than native X on a
local LAN. (Note that the k12ltsp distribution, a slightly
modified fedora, has this mode enabled by default).

Another is to install freenx on the server and the free
nxclient software from www.nomachine.com.  This is the best
for low-bandwidth connections and is an easy install on
the windows boxes compared to cygwin X.

[john bray]

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:06 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> in fact i got Linux server and windows clients, i want windows clients to 
> access Linux machine's GUI,
> i have done this by sharing the Linux desktop with rdesktop and using 
> tightvnc viewer on windows clients, but in fact i dont want a shared desktop 
> on client, instead i want different desktop for every individual, mean every 
> client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the Linux 
> server local desktop and any clients desktop
> Regards
> Azeem
> > From: Paul Lemmons 
> > Reply-To: [e-mail],For users of Fedora Core releases 
> >
> > To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
> > Subject: Re: terminal server
> > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 11:44:04 -0700
> >
> > If I am reading between the lines correctly, you have multiple users
> > that you want to be able to connect to a box running FC4 at the same
> > time and you ant to do so with out the box expending too much energy
> > serving up the sessions. If this is right I think you have two options:
> >
> > If all of your users are console (text only) users they can connect to
> > the box using:
> >    ssh       (works out of the box)
> >    telnet    (requires a little setup to get it to work)
> >    rlogin    (also requires some setup to get it to work)
> >
> > If they are needing access to GUI applications:
> >    They need to be running an X client/server
> >       If users are using Windows checkout
> >          Reflections X ($)
> >          Hummingbird   ($)
> >       If they are also Fedora/Unix users
> >          they already have the software on their box (free)
> >
> > Is this what you were looking for?
> >
> > On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 23:22 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> > > hi list
> > > is there any terminal server for Fedora Core that is not resourse
> >
> > intensive,
> > > it may be supporting a very few clients but should not be resourse
> >
> > hungry
> > > Regards
> > > Azeem

you might want to check out the freenx server on the linux box and the
nomachines.com windows client.  it gives you an x desktop with minimal x
traffic on the lan.  what it does to cpu occupancy on the serverbox, i
don't know.

john

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 00:06 +0500, azeem ahmad wrote:
> in fact i got Linux server and windows clients, i want windows clients to 
> access Linux machine's GUI,
> i have done this by sharing the Linux desktop with rdesktop and using 
> tightvnc viewer on windows clients, but in fact i dont want a shared desktop 
> on client, instead i want different desktop for every individual, mean every 
> client who logs in must get his own desktop without interrupting the Linux 
> server local desktop and any clients desktop
> Regards
> Azeem

----
vnc (part of the distribution)

# rpm -qa|grep vnc
vnc-4.1.1-10.1
vnc-server-4.1.1-10.1

or freenx

(you have to get the client application from them)
http://freenx.berlios.de/

Craig