I communicate with others during the day via text messaging via Thunderbird. I simply address them with 'phonenumber@vzwpix.com and they respond using my fastmail.us email address, this is an essential feature and we have been doing it routinely for several years, it worked perfectly until Fedora-31. Now the message is received but the message itself is not displayed. I can double click on the line at the bottom that shows a .txt attachment and it will offer the option of viewing it in mousepad, a really crude method that adds extra steps.
However bcc's of my own outgoing response to the text message displays as usual.
Essentially the Thunderbird sees the incoming text message but does not display it, only lists it among messages.
Help appreciated, Bob
On Sun, 2019-11-17 at 21:51 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I communicate with others during the day via text messaging via Thunderbird. I simply address them with 'phonenumber@vzwpix.com and they respond using my fastmail.us email address, this is an essential feature and we have been doing it routinely for several years, it worked perfectly until Fedora-31. Now the message is received but the message itself is not displayed. I can double click on the line at the bottom that shows a .txt attachment and it will offer the option of viewing it in mousepad, a really crude method that adds extra steps.
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
If the texts are being sent as attachments, rather than being the message content, I think you're going to be stuck with this problem. Most mail clients do not show attachments directly, though some can have a click to view option for some kinds of attachments. A sender can suggest to automatically show the attachment, but that depends on the sender doing it, and your client supporting it, and it being the kind of data that the client can display by itself.
On 11/18/19 2:01 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2019-11-17 at 21:51 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I communicate with others during the day via text messaging via Thunderbird. I simply address them with 'phonenumber@vzwpix.com and they respond using my fastmail.us email address, this is an essential feature and we have been doing it routinely for several years, it worked perfectly until Fedora-31. Now the message is received but the message itself is not displayed. I can double click on the line at the bottom that shows a .txt attachment and it will offer the option of viewing it in mousepad, a really crude method that adds extra steps.
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
If the texts are being sent as attachments, rather than being the message content, I think you're going to be stuck with this problem. Most mail clients do not show attachments directly, though some can have a click to view option for some kinds of attachments. A sender can suggest to automatically show the attachment, but that depends on the sender doing it, and your client supporting it, and it being the kind of data that the client can display by itself.
The best thing to do would be to post the headers to the list.
But, yes, that sounds like this is the case.
This may help, but with T-Bird you can go to "Edit---Perferences--->Attachments" and for Incoming *.text files you can pick the application you want to use to open the text message. On a KDE system it defaults to KWrite. But you can pick your preferred editor.
On 11/18/19 1:01 AM, Tim via users wrote:
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
If the texts are being sent as attachments, rather than being the message content, I think you're going to be stuck with this problem. Most mail clients do not show attachments directly, though some can have a click to view option for some kinds of attachments. A sender can suggest to automatically show the attachment, but that depends on the sender doing it, and your client supporting it, and it being the kind of data that the client can display by itself.
-- uname
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All the iPhone messages listed show the .txt attachment at the bottom and the message text area is blank, those bcc copies from my computer display my text response as usual. Those same files/messages can be read if I boot Fedora-29' The only variable I see is Fedora, apparently it no longer works with the attachments ...
View as plain text or any of the three does not seem to change what I see.
On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 06:21 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
All the iPhone messages listed show the .txt attachment at the bottom and the message text area is blank, those bcc copies from my computer display my text response as usual. Those same files/messages can be read if I boot Fedora-29' The only variable I see is Fedora, apparently it no longer works with the attachments ...
View as plain text or any of the three does not seem to change what I see.
Get your friend to send you a non-personal test message, so you can show us one the original messages.
On 11/18/19 1:24 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/18/19 2:01 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2019-11-17 at 21:51 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I communicate with others during the day via text messaging via Thunderbird. I simply address them with 'phonenumber@vzwpix.com and they respond using my fastmail.us email address, this is an essential feature and we have been doing it routinely for several years, it worked perfectly until Fedora-31. Now the message is received but the message itself is not displayed. I can double click on the line at the bottom that shows a .txt attachment and it will offer the option of viewing it in mousepad, a really crude method that adds extra steps.
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
If the texts are being sent as attachments, rather than being the message content, I think you're going to be stuck with this problem. Most mail clients do not show attachments directly, though some can have a click to view option for some kinds of attachments. A sender can suggest to automatically show the attachment, but that depends on the sender doing it, and your client supporting it, and it being the kind of data that the client can display by itself.
The best thing to do would be to post the headers to the list.
But, yes, that sounds like this is the case.
This may help, but with T-Bird you can go to "Edit---Perferences--->Attachments" and for Incoming *.text files you can pick the application you want to use to open the text message. On a KDE system it defaults to KWrite. But you can pick your preferred editor.
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I see in the message header:
Sat, 16 Nov 2019 22:03:49 +0000 account1 1464709152.61470 0001
Doing ""Edit---Perferences--->Attachments" and for Incoming *.text files you can pick the application you want to use to open the text message."
and selecting mousepad does get the message text displayed by clicking on the "Attachment:text_0.txt" notation at the bpttom of the display.
That may be a workable solution if it doesn't affect anything else ...
Thank you for the help.
On November 17, 2019 10:01:17 PM PST, Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Sun, 2019-11-17 at 21:51 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I communicate with others during the day via text messaging via Thunderbird. I simply address them with 'phonenumber@vzwpix.com and they respond using my fastmail.us email address, this is an essential feature and we have been doing it routinely for several years, it worked perfectly until Fedora-31. Now the message is received but the message itself is not displayed. I can double click on the line at the bottom that shows a .txt attachment and it will offer the option of viewing it in mousepad, a really crude method that adds extra steps.
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
Someone I exchange texts with on our phones had the problem of MMS texts displaying that way, when previously they had been in line. Her provider "reset" something, which fixed it. MMS and SMS both work for texts, but are different "standards".
On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 13:32 -0800, Tony Nelson wrote:
Someone I exchange texts with on our phones had the problem of MMS texts displaying that way, when previously they had been in line. Her provider "reset" something, which fixed it. MMS and SMS both work for texts, but are different "standards".
There's at least one more standard: RCS (rich communication services) is becoming prevelent. It's meant as an enhancement (fancier text, longer messages, file sending, etc (which sounds like reinventing email, to me).
Chances are that a few service providers will be changing software to accomodate it, and that may change other things at the same time. I can well imagine the older services being relegated to crappy support in an effort to kick people onto the new ones.
On 18/11/19 22:21, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 11/18/19 1:01 AM, Tim via users wrote:
That sounds more like a change in how they were sent. Though you could look for options like display as plain text. Or the opposite, if they're being sent as HTML.
If the texts are being sent as attachments, rather than being the message content, I think you're going to be stuck with this problem. Most mail clients do not show attachments directly, though some can have a click to view option for some kinds of attachments. A sender can suggest to automatically show the attachment, but that depends on the sender doing it, and your client supporting it, and it being the kind of data that the client can display by itself. -- uname
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All the iPhone messages listed show the .txt attachment at the bottom and the message text area is blank, those bcc copies from my computer display my text response as usual. Those same files/messages can be read if I boot Fedora-29' The only variable I see is Fedora, apparently it no longer works with the attachments ...
View as plain text or any of the three does not seem to change what I see.
Just one question on this, in Edit->Preferences->Composition->HTMLStyle->Configure text format behaviour->Send Options do you have the option "Send messages as plain text if possible" unticked or ticked. This option may have changed its default setting in the version of Thunderbird in F31. I had to tick this option for emails sent to this mail list, but I could have also added this user list domain to the text only domains to achieve the same thing. I'm using Thunderbird 72.0a1 so my options may be slightly different to yours.
regards, Steve
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