Hi all,
For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any one knows the process please let us know.
Thanks Prashanth
Am 29.03.2013 12:45, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any one knows the process please let us know.
STOP TO START EACH DAY MULTIPLE THREADS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATIONS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM - LEARN TO PROVIDE INFORMATIONS!
"For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service" makes no sense at all because both are independent services
* what is your input * what is the output * what does "systemctl status name.service" say * what does /var/log/messages say * what does /var/log/secure say
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:57:51 +0100 Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 29.03.2013 12:45, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any one knows the process please let us know.
- what is your input
- what is the output
- what does "systemctl status name.service" say
- what does /var/log/messages say
- what does /var/log/secure say
try: dmesg | grep ssh cat /var/log/messages | grep ssh
for audit service do likewise, but change grep value
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:57:51 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 29.03.2013 12:45, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any one knows the process please let us know.
STOP TO START EACH DAY MULTIPLE THREADS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATIONS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM - LEARN TO PROVIDE INFORMATIONS!
"For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service" makes no sense at all because both are independent services
- what is your input
- what is the output
- what does "systemctl status name.service" say
- what does /var/log/messages say
- what does /var/log/secure say
Perhaps it's a better idea to open a single topic at
and wait for answers there. prashanthkasula has not replied to any of his several threads on this mailing-list so far.
[root@KM-WS151 /]# service sshd status Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: failed since Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:44:48 +0530; 33min ago Main PID: 10063 (code=exited, status=255)
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.netwrote:
Am 29.03.2013 12:45, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any
one knows the process please let us know.
STOP TO START EACH DAY MULTIPLE THREADS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATIONS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM - LEARN TO PROVIDE INFORMATIONS!
"For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service" makes no sense at all because both are independent services
- what is your input
- what is the output
- what does "systemctl status name.service" say
- what does /var/log/messages say
- what does /var/log/secure say
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:26:13 +0530 Prashanth Kasula prashanthkasula@gmail.com wrote:
[root@KM-WS151 /]# service sshd status Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: failed since Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:44:48 +0530; 33min ago Main PID: 10063 (code=exited, status=255)
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.netwrote:
rpm -q openssh-server
Am 29.03.2013 13:56, schrieb Prashanth Kasula:
|[root@KM-WS151 /]# service sshd status Redirecting to /bin/systemctl status sshd.service sshd.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: failed since Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:44:48 +0530; 33min ago
Main PID: 10063 (code=exited, status=255)
well, after get rid of top-posting "yum install openssh-server" and what has this to do with auditd at all?
your subject "auditd is afiled how to enable" does not describe your problem, "afiled" is AFAIK not a known word, so please consider in the future to describe your problem, find a mathcing subject and after that people can help you
starting multiple threads with the same missing informations will not make things better and in reality results in get ignored by the majority of users, especially if you are hijacking others threads
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net mailto:h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote: Am 29.03.2013 12:45, schrieb Prashanth Kasula: > For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service.if any one knows the process please let us know.
STOP TO START EACH DAY MULTIPLE THREADS WITHOUT ANY INFORMATIONS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM - LEARN TO PROVIDE INFORMATIONS! "For sshd service there is a problem in enabling auditd service" makes no sense at all because both are independent services * what is your input * what is the output * what does "systemctl status name.service" say * what does /var/log/messages say * what does /var/log/secure say
Hi Reindl,
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 02:28:27PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
your subject "auditd is afiled how to enable" does not describe your problem, "afiled" is AFAIK not a known word, so please consider in the future to describe your problem, find a mathcing subject and after that people can help you
That is a common typo for "failed" (the a and f are interchanged). I bet everyone has made a typo like that sometime in the past. Other such comon typos could be missing letters, interchanging characters and spaces at word boundaries, etc.
On 03/29/13 21:58, Suvayu Ali wrote:
Hi Reindl,
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 02:28:27PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
your subject "auditd is afiled how to enable" does not describe your problem, "afiled" is AFAIK not a known word, so please consider in the future to describe your problem, find a mathcing subject and after that people can help you
That is a common typo for "failed" (the a and f are interchanged). I bet everyone has made a typo like that sometime in the past. Other such comon typos could be missing letters, interchanging characters and spaces at word boundaries, etc.
Yeah, you'd think someone who types things such as "find a mathcing" would be able to figure that out. :-) :-)
Am 29.03.2013 15:31, schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 03/29/13 21:58, Suvayu Ali wrote:
Hi Reindl,
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 02:28:27PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
your subject "auditd is afiled how to enable" does not describe your problem, "afiled" is AFAIK not a known word, so please consider in the future to describe your problem, find a mathcing subject and after that people can help you
That is a common typo for "failed" (the a and f are interchanged). I bet everyone has made a typo like that sometime in the past. Other such comon typos could be missing letters, interchanging characters and spaces at word boundaries, etc.
Yeah, you'd think someone who types things such as "find a mathcing" would be able to figure that out
it's a difference having a typo in the subject or in the content especially if someone speaks about auditd in the subject and sshd in the content
auditd != sshd information == zero thread count == hight ______________________________
summary: a bad joke if someone needs help
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Thanks for listening.
Am 29.03.2013 15:55, schrieb Steven Stern:
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
no, no and no again
if someone refuses to * provide at least ANY information * write a subject which describes the problem * is hijacking threads * ignores basics like not top-posting or starts with HTML messages he has to learn it
and if someone starts MULTIPLE threads over days with no information at all, with different subjects and so on he has at least to understand quickly that with this way asking questions he comes not far
http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html sad enough that people saw they need to write such "guidelines"
Sorry for the top post. Blackberry mail is a good prrogramme for a list. While I agree with Mr. Stern on the topic of politeness, I can also remember a time on these support lists that the usual response to new users questions was 'RTFM'. The manuals were and still are very technical in jargon that are not very helpful unless one knows the jargon.
IMO Dave Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity
-----Original Message----- From: Steven Stern subscribed-lists@sterndata.com Sender: users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:55:28 To: Community support for Fedora usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Meta-discussions and the role of the Fedora Community
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Thanks for listening.
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:55:28 -0500 Steven Stern subscribed-lists@sterndata.com wrote:
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
Not so sure Steven. Always figured "FOSS software - a strong community" always pointed to active development, not necessarily use.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
I agree to a point, with the proviso a link to the guidelines should be provides re tp.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
I lurked for three years, before asking a question. to gain some small knowledge from trial and error.
In the past I've got as much a broiling on Win lists for tp, whatever the place, a guide is a guide. "Please stay on the trail, or you may eaten by a croc."
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:22 +0000 davidschaak1@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
I can also remember a time on these support lists that the usual response to new users questions was 'RTFM'. The manuals were and still are very technical in jargon that are not very helpful unless one knows the jargon.
I agree on the man pages, but is that not part of the whole Agile discipline, which was in *nix before Agile came about. iirc. I personally love an example, over a man foo
On 03/29/13 22:42, Reindl Harald wrote:
it's a difference having a typo in the subject or in the content especially if someone speaks about auditd in the subject and sshd in the content
A typo is a typo. You just didn't have enough context for you to be able to figure it out. Sure, there were other problems with the post....but that wasn't one of them.
Allegedly, on or about 29 March 2013, Ed Greshko sent:
From now on, at least during winter time, Im going to blame all spelling an grammar erros on the cat sitting on my chest every time I sit down at the computer....
And this generates a strange mental picture... ;-)
Is it an anti-gravity cat? Are you sitting in a horizontal position? And which way is the cat facing? ;-)
Once again sorry about the top post.
Afaik, there has never been a foo in the man pages. What I was referring to was the new people find the jargon in them, if not intimidating, at least confusing, if they do not know the jargon.
It was the same with some of howto's that were available in the 90's.
I am self taught, and there are plenty of gaps in my knowledge on the admin side of things, and I am still learning.
Having been away from computers for quite some time, and these mail lists, my 2nd last fedora install was fc 5. The helpfu improvement in the lists since the 90's is unreal.
Just my 0.02
Dave Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity
-----Original Message----- From: Frank Murphy frankly3d@gmail.com Sender: users-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:27:43 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Meta-discussions and the role of the Fedora Community
On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:04:22 +0000 davidschaak1@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
I can also remember a time on these support lists that the usual response to new users questions was 'RTFM'. The manuals were and still are very technical in jargon that are not very helpful unless one knows the jargon.
I agree on the man pages, but is that not part of the whole Agile discipline, which was in *nix before Agile came about. iirc. I personally love an example, over a man foo
On 03/29/13 23:52, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 March 2013, Ed Greshko sent:
From now on, at least during winter time, Im going to blame all spelling an grammar erros on the cat sitting on my chest every time I sit down at the computer....
And this generates a strange mental picture... ;-)
Is it an anti-gravity cat? Are you sitting in a horizontal position? And which way is the cat facing? ;-)
I have extremely poor posture. Lucky for her I have a small "bump" above the waist which keeps her from sliding off. Lucky for me she faces towards me and to the right. ;-)
On 03/29/2013 06:58 AM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
That is a common typo for "failed" (the a and f are interchanged). I bet everyone has made a typo like that sometime in the past. Other such comon typos could be missing letters, interchanging characters and spaces at word boundaries, etc.
*Snicker!* Including the examples you left in your reply? Personally, I prefer to poorfraed my posts first, but YMMV.
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 16:09 +0000, davidschaak1@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote:
Once again sorry about the top post.
Afaik, there has never been a foo in the man pages. What I was referring to was the new people find the jargon in them, if not intimidating, at least confusing, if they do not know the jargon.
It was the same with some of howto's that were available in the 90's.
I am self taught, and there are plenty of gaps in my knowledge on the admin side of things, and I am still learning.
Having been away from computers for quite some time, and these mail lists, my 2nd last fedora install was fc 5. The helpfu improvement in the lists since the 90's is unreal.
Just my 0.02
Dave
I think Dave is right. I have been a fedora fan for several years now, and the change has been gradual, but sincere, and the improvement is definitely noticeable
On the topic here, though, let me go to an extreme for a moment... I have a friend who has been an admin for many many years. He is now severely vision impaired. Whether or not you agree, having to follow a thread using a screen reader or Dragon systems stuff (when he has to resort to Windows) which contains one or more rants about the grammar or the lack of supporting documentation is not helpful.
Moreover, a newbie may not have any idea of how to state his question in technical terms. I agree though that the subject line "A question" certainly is a turn off, but I always dutifully read the question to see what the person needs. I also generally email them personally to let them know that they need to put the actual question in the subject line. And to give the error message if any and the action they see on the computer in the body.
There is no need to chastise someone in public. A true leader follows a simple maxim, Chastise in private, praise in public. Also if an apology is warranted it should be done publicly.
This is just my 2 cents.
Les H
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 09:55 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If nobody ever says it, how do you expect newbies top learn?
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Thanks for listening.
Oh the humanity! You do realize you hijacked a thread to post this, don't you?
poc
On 03/29/2013 02:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Oh the humanity! You do realize you hijacked a thread to post this, don't you?
Yes. That was my mistake. I was going to reply in thread, then though I should start a new one. But, I didn't create a new message, just changed the header.
I've been waiting to get thumped for it.
At least I bottom posted this reply and didn't use an HTML message in MS Comic Sans to reply.
And, I am using F18, not an out of date distro.
Steven Stern wrote:
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Agreed. I would add: do not be a teacher if you are continuously upset on students.
- Gergely
El vie, 29-03-2013 a las 14:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió:
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 09:55 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If nobody ever says it, how do you expect newbies top learn?
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Thanks for listening.
Oh the humanity! You do realize you hijacked a thread to post this, don't you?
poc
Oh! Really? I didn't realize it. What thread you say he hijacked? I can't see it...
Regards, Lailah
Am 04.04.2013 17:43, schrieb Lailah:
El vie, 29-03-2013 a las 14:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió:
On Fri, 2013-03-29 at 09:55 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
When people talk about choosing FOSS software like Fedora, "a strong community" is always cited.
May we declare a moratorium on meta-discussions? If someone doesn't give enough info, ask them for more, and that's all. Going off on top posting, depth of quoting, typos, etc makes the list a hostile place.
If you don't have something nice or helpful to say, don't say it.
If nobody ever says it, how do you expect newbies top learn?
If you need more info, ask for it. If you suspect they don't know what they're doing, offer some assistance on how they can get that info.
Quite frankly, if I were a newbie and I had a question and were met with such hostility, I'd think twice about all that stuff about the value of "the community".
Thanks for listening.
Oh the humanity! You do realize you hijacked a thread to post this, don't you?
poc
Oh! Really? I didn't realize it. What thread you say he hijacked? I can't see it...
no one
POC is trolling sometimes and even the thread starter began to believe he did a mistake while verybody with a useable mail-client can see that the new subject has it's own thread
Am 04.04.2013 22:22, schrieb Reindl Harald:
Oh! Really? I didn't realize it. What thread you say he hijacked? I can't see it...
no one
POC is trolling sometimes and even the thread starter began to believe he did a mistake while verybody with a useable mail-client can see that the new subject has it's own thread
ok - now i have to say sorry to POC in this case
"Meta-discussions and the role of the Fedora Community" starts in the middle of "auditd is afiled how to enable" and looked only like a own thread caused by the search filter
and the critism belongs now TO YOU for a useless reply to a post from 2013-03-29 nearly a week later and warm it up again
On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 22:27 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
POC is trolling sometimes and even the thread starter began to believe he did a mistake while verybody with a useable mail-client can see that the new subject has it's own thread
ok - now i have to say sorry to POC in this case
Thank you.
poc
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