Start X?

[Lyle Kopnicky]

OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got xfce 
installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I tried 
Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Lyle

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 1:59:
> OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got xfce 
> installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I tried 
> Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
> Lyle

To which runlevel do you boot? Is there a /var/log/Xorg.0.log file with
valuable information? Do you see X in the process list from "ps axuw"?
Else hardware information is needed too.

Alexander

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Thanks, I was starting in runlevel 3.  I changed it to 5.  Now it boots 
up with this prompt:

Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg)
    Kernel 2.6.9-1.667 on an i586

INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes

Again, nothing if I press Alt-F7.  Any more ideas?

I also noticed that the link /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg is 
broken.  Am I missing something?  Is there a log file to check for errors?

Thanks,
Lyle

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 1:59:
> > OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got xfce 
> > installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I tried 
> > Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
> > Lyle
>
> To which runlevel do you boot? Is there a /var/log/Xorg.0.log file with
> valuable information? Do you see X in the process list from "ps axuw"?
> Else hardware information is needed too.
>
> Alexander

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 2:59:

Don't top-post please!
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
> Thanks, I was starting in runlevel 3.  I changed it to 5.  Now it boots 
> up with this prompt:
> Fedora Core release 3 (Heidelberg)
> Kernel 2.6.9-1.667 on an i586
>
> INIT: Id "x" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
>
> Again, nothing if I press Alt-F7.  Any more ideas?
>
> I also noticed that the link /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg is 
> broken.  Am I missing something?  Is there a log file to check for errors?

Hm, I doubt you see a broken link.

ls -al /etc/X11/X /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg

What does that command show you? Do you think it is "broken" because
/usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg is displayed with red background? This is because
the binary has "chmod u+s" set.

I did write you took look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
> Lyle

Alexander

[Phil Schaffner]

On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 03:14 +0100, Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 2:59:
>
> Don't top-post please!
> http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html

And tour the cathedral and the bazaar, and "Smart Questions", while in
the neighborhood.  Might take a while to get back. :-)

... Snip ...
> I did write you took look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Might also go back to runlevel 3 and give

# system-config-display --reconfig

a shot.  If playing with that fails, post the info Alexander requested.

Phil

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> <>Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 2:59:
>
> Don't top-post please!
> http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
>
> Alexander

Gotcha.  Thanks for pointing that out.

- Lyle

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 2:59:
>
> ....
> > ....
> > I also noticed that the link /etc/X11/X -> ../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg is 
> > broken.  Am I missing something?  Is there a log file to check for errors?
>
> Hm, I doubt you see a broken link.
>
> ls -al /etc/X11/X /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg
>
> What does that command show you? Do you think it is "broken" because
> /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg is displayed with red background? This is because
> the binary has "chmod u+s" set.
>
> I did write you took look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
>
> Alexander

When I type 'ls -al /etc/X11/X /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg', both '/etc/X11/X' 
and '../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg' are flashing with a red background.  
There is no file '/usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg'.  Neither is there a log file, 
'/var/log/Xorg.0.log'.

I wonder if I am missing some packages?  When I ran through the Fedora 
install, I selected XFCE but not X Basic.  Since then I've installed a 
few other RPMS, but it hasn't helped.

Thanks,
Lyle

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 19:49:
> When I type 'ls -al /etc/X11/X /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg', both '/etc/X11/X' 
> and '../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg' are flashing with a red background.  
> There is no file '/usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg'.  Neither is there a log file, 
> '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'.

Ok.
> I wonder if I am missing some packages?  When I ran through the Fedora 
> install, I selected XFCE but not X Basic.  Since then I've installed a 
> few other RPMS, but it hasn't helped.

A bit curious as installing a window manager the underlying X should be
installed too as a dependency. You may run on console

yum install xorg-x11

to get X.
> Lyle

Alexander

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 19:49:
> > When I type 'ls -al /etc/X11/X /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg', both '/etc/X11/X' 
> > and '../../usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg' are flashing with a red background.  
> > There is no file '/usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg'.  Neither is there a log file, 
> > '/var/log/Xorg.0.log'.
>
> Ok.
> > I wonder if I am missing some packages?  When I ran through the Fedora 
> > install, I selected XFCE but not X Basic.  Since then I've installed a 
> > few other RPMS, but it hasn't helped.
>
> A bit curious as installing a window manager the underlying X should be
> installed too as a dependency. You may run on console
>
> yum install xorg-x11
>
> to get X.

When I type

yum install xorg-x11

I get:

You have enabled checking of packages via GPG keys. This is a good 
thing. However, you do not have any GPG public keys installed. You need 
to download the keys for packages you wish to install and install them. 
You can do that by running the command:
    rpm --import public.gpg.key
For more information contact your distribution or package provider.

So, I typed

rpm --import public.gpg.key

and got

error: public.gpg.key: import read failed.

My network interface is working fine.  How can I either a) turn of 
checking of packages via GPG keys, or b) import the GPG key?

Thanks,
Lyle

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Do, den 02.12.2004 schrieb Lyle Kopnicky um 20:28:
> When I type
> yum install xorg-x11
>
> I get:
>
> You have enabled checking of packages via GPG keys. This is a good 
> thing. However, you do not have any GPG public keys installed. You need 
> to download the keys for packages you wish to install and install them. 
> You can do that by running the command:
>     rpm --import public.gpg.key
> For more information contact your distribution or package provider.
>
> So, I typed
> rpm --import public.gpg.key
>
> and got
> error: public.gpg.key: import read failed.
>
> My network interface is working fine.  How can I either a) turn of 
> checking of packages via GPG keys, or b) import the GPG key?
> Lyle

Very basic issue: how should the key be installed if you don't give the
proper path to the key file?

http://www.fedoranews.org/tchung/yum-gpg

Alexander

[Jim Cornette]

Lyle Kopnicky wrote:
> OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got xfce 
> installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I tried 
> Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
> Lyle

Is xorg-x11 installed? Maybe the X server is not present. I'm thinking 
that you have a window manager and no server. This is probably not the 
case, but worth a guess.

Jim

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> Lyle Kopnicky wrote:
> > OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got 
> > xfce installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I 
> > tried Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lyle
>
> Is xorg-x11 installed? Maybe the X server is not present. I'm thinking 
> that you have a window manager and no server. This is probably not the 
> case, but worth a guess.
>
> Jim

I've installed the following packages:

xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-libs-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-twm-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-xauth-6.81-12.i386.rpm
    xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm

Are there any others that might help?  Only "libs" sounds like it is 
critical.

Thanks,
Lyle

[Jim Cornette]

Lyle Kopnicky wrote:
> Jim Cornette wrote:
> > Lyle Kopnicky wrote:
> > > OK, I can't figure out how to start X in Fedora Core 3.  I've got 
> > > xfce installed.  I tried "startx", "X", "xinit".  None are found.  I 
> > > tried Alt-F7 but get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lyle
> >
> > Is xorg-x11 installed? Maybe the X server is not present. I'm thinking 
> > that you have a window manager and no server. This is probably not the 
> > case, but worth a guess.
> >
> > Jim
>
> I've installed the following packages:
>
> xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-libs-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-twm-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-xauth-6.81-12.i386.rpm
>    xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.1-12.i386.rpm
>
> Are there any others that might help?  Only "libs" sounds like it is 
> critical.
>
> Thanks,
> Lyle

I have the below packages installed that relate to xorg-x11. Usually the 
updating programs (yum, up2date or apt) pull in any programs needed, 
because of dependacies for other programs.

If I recall some installation programs, it is possible to only install 
the windowmanager and not the X server. You do need either XFree86 or 
xorg-x11. The lack of deps might be because you could choose whatever X 
server version that you choose.

My listing for xorg-x11 is probably a bit more up2date. I just upgraded 
the xorg-x11 recently, while reading the mail.

Jim

rpm -qa |grep  xorg
xorg-x11-libs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-devel-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-100dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-75dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-truetype-6.8.1-1
xorg-x11-doc-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-75dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-100dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-75dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-100dpi-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-75dpi-6.8.1-1
xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-100dpi-6.8.1-1
xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
fonts-xorg-base-6.8.1-1
fonts-xorg-75dpi-6.8.1-1
xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.1-12.FC3.21

[Lyle Kopnicky]

Jim Cornette wrote:
> I have the below packages installed that relate to xorg-x11. Usually 
> the updating programs (yum, up2date or apt) pull in any programs 
> needed, because of dependacies for other programs.
>
> If I recall some installation programs, it is possible to only install 
> the windowmanager and not the X server. You do need either XFree86 or 
> xorg-x11. The lack of deps might be because you could choose whatever 
> X server version that you choose.
>
> My listing for xorg-x11 is probably a bit more up2date. I just 
> upgraded the xorg-x11 recently, while reading the mail.
>
> Jim
>
> rpm -qa |grep  xorg
> xorg-x11-libs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-devel-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-100dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-75dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-truetype-6.8.1-1
> xorg-x11-doc-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-font-utils-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-Mesa-libGLU-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-75dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-100dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-15-75dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-14-100dpi-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-2-75dpi-6.8.1-1
> xorg-x11-xauth-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-deprecated-libs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> fonts-xorg-ISO8859-9-100dpi-6.8.1-1
> xorg-x11-xfs-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> fonts-xorg-base-6.8.1-1
> fonts-xorg-75dpi-6.8.1-1
> xorg-x11-Mesa-libGL-6.8.1-12.FC3.21
> xorg-x11-xdm-6.8.1-12.FC3.21

Having finally gotten all those packages to install (I didn't worry 
about the devel or Mesa ones), X now starts on boot!  I just have one 
problem - the mouse doesn't work.  I'm going to post a new thread about 
it because it seems like a different issue.

Thanks to all who helped.

- Lyle