Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:31 -0500, Chris wrote:
Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
-- Best regards, Chris Registerd Linux user number 448639
Moving to mutt isn't all that bad the mutt website has some great tutorials and wiki entries, there is even a site with a muttrc generator very easy to use. Mutt has a ton of options though so be prepared for alot of reading trying to figure all of them out, hope you like it enjoy!!
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:46:55 -0500 lostson lostson@lostsonsvault.org wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:31 -0500, Chris wrote:
Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
-- Best regards, Chris Registerd Linux user number 448639
Moving to mutt isn't all that bad the mutt website has some great tutorials and wiki entries, there is even a site with a muttrc generator very easy to use. Mutt has a ton of options though so be prepared for alot of reading trying to figure all of them out, hope you like it enjoy!!
I would like to know the site for the muttrc config
Chris wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:46:55 -0500 lostson lostson@lostsonsvault.org wrote:
Moving to mutt isn't all that bad the mutt website has some great tutorials and wiki entries, there is even a site with a muttrc generator very easy to use. Mutt has a ton of options though so be prepared for alot of reading trying to figure all of them out, hope you like it enjoy!!
I would like to know the site for the muttrc config
If you did a bit of googling and or reading you may have discovered http://muttrcbuilder.org/. If you didn't someone just did it for you. :-)
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:16:27 +0800 Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Chris wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:46:55 -0500 lostson lostson@lostsonsvault.org wrote:
Moving to mutt isn't all that bad the mutt website has some great tutorials and wiki entries, there is even a site with a muttrc generator very easy to use. Mutt has a ton of options though so be prepared for alot of reading trying to figure all of them out, hope you like it enjoy!!
I would like to know the site for the muttrc config
If you did a bit of googling and or reading you may have discovered http://muttrcbuilder.org/. If you didn't someone just did it for you. :-)
Ed -
Thanks - I did get that. Working as we speak. I just didn't have the time to post a follow-up.
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:16:27 +0800 Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Chris wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:46:55 -0500 lostson lostson@lostsonsvault.org wrote:
Moving to mutt isn't all that bad the mutt website has some great tutorials and wiki entries, there is even a site with a muttrc generator very easy to use. Mutt has a ton of options though so be prepared for alot of reading trying to figure all of them out, hope you like it enjoy!!
I would like to know the site for the muttrc config
If you did a bit of googling and or reading you may have discovered http://muttrcbuilder.org/. If you didn't someone just did it for you. :-)
I have it working just fine as-is. The biggest issue I can see right now, is the sub-folders I have my mail currently in.
IE: All Fedora mail goes to inbox/Fedora etc, etc, etc.
If I kept is simple from the git-go where all mail just went into the inbox, I would be done.
*Sigh* I have some work to do.
Chris wrote:
I have it working just fine as-is. The biggest issue I can see right now, is the sub-folders I have my mail currently in.
IE: All Fedora mail goes to inbox/Fedora etc, etc, etc.
If I kept is simple from the git-go where all mail just went into the inbox, I would be done.
*Sigh* I have some work to do.
What part of that is causing you work, getting the mail pulled down and sorted, or telling mutt how to find your mail?
I use fetchmail and procmail for the former. The mailboxes command is what you set for the latter.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:44:40 -0400 Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote:
Chris wrote:
I have it working just fine as-is. The biggest issue I can see right now, is the sub-folders I have my mail currently in.
IE: All Fedora mail goes to inbox/Fedora etc, etc, etc.
If I kept is simple from the git-go where all mail just went into the inbox, I would be done.
*Sigh* I have some work to do.
What part of that is causing you work, getting the mail pulled down and sorted, or telling mutt how to find your mail?
I use fetchmail and procmail for the former. The mailboxes command is what you set for the latter.
Heya Todd -
Forgive my ignorance on this - Since I use Claws, here is something how my current Mail dir looks like (Claws uses MH, in #HOME/Mail)
$HOME Mail inbox Fedora Fedora-DS CentOS Ubuntu Etc, etc, etc
I can certainly pull mail from my ISP without issues, I'm unsure how to now seperate them into the above while preserving the many emails that currently live in the above dirs.
Again - pardon my ignorance on this - I hope I gave you a clear image.
Chris wrote:
Forgive my ignorance on this - Since I use Claws, here is something how my current Mail dir looks like (Claws uses MH, in #HOME/Mail)
$HOME Mail inbox Fedora Fedora-DS CentOS Ubuntu Etc, etc, etc
I can certainly pull mail from my ISP without issues, I'm unsure how to now seperate them into the above while preserving the many emails that currently live in the above dirs.
Again - pardon my ignorance on this - I hope I gave you a clear image.
I think that a tool like procmail or maildrop are what you want to look into. I use fetchmail to grab mail from a POP account and procmail to filter it into various folders. I'm using maildir as the mailbox format, but AFAIK, procmail will work with MH in much the same way.
Hit google for many tutorials on procmail. One thing that's very nice is being able to use regular expressions in the filtering process. So you could have one rule that would filter all of the list that use the List-Id header with something like this (which may well look unintelligeble without having read the procmail manpages :):
# filter list mail :0 * ^List-Id: +/.* { LISTID=$MATCH
:0 * LISTID ?? ^.*[<]/[^@>.]* lists/$MATCH/
:0 * LISTID ?? ^ */[^@.]* lists/$MATCH/ }
With a rule like that, this list ends up in lists/fedora-list. The nice part is that when you subscribe to new lists you don't have to add yet another rule that is almost identical to many others. Of course, if you have problmatic lists or lists you want to save in places other than where this recipe would put them, you can just add those rules before this one.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:09:20PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
Chris wrote:
Forgive my ignorance on this - Since I use Claws, here is something how my current Mail dir looks like (Claws uses MH, in #HOME/Mail)
$HOME Mail inbox Fedora Fedora-DS CentOS Ubuntu Etc, etc, etc
I can certainly pull mail from my ISP without issues, I'm unsure how to now seperate them into the above while preserving the many emails that currently live in the above dirs.
Again - pardon my ignorance on this - I hope I gave you a clear image.
I think that a tool like procmail or maildrop are what you want to look into. I use fetchmail to grab mail from a POP account and procmail to filter it into various folders. I'm using maildir as the mailbox format, but AFAIK, procmail will work with MH in much the same way.
Hit google for many tutorials on procmail. One thing that's very nice is being able to use regular expressions in the filtering process. So you could have one rule that would filter all of the list that use the List-Id header with something like this (which may well look unintelligeble without having read the procmail manpages :):
# filter list mail :0
- ^List-Id: +/.*
{ LISTID=$MATCH
:0 * LISTID ?? ^.*[<]\/[^@>\.]* lists/$MATCH/ :0 * LISTID ?? ^ *\/[^@\.]* lists/$MATCH/}
With a rule like that, this list ends up in lists/fedora-list. The nice part is that when you subscribe to new lists you don't have to add yet another rule that is almost identical to many others. Of course, if you have problmatic lists or lists you want to save in places other than where this recipe would put them, you can just add those rules before this one.
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Thanks Todd - I'll look into this a bit more this evening. I feel I have enough to really get this knocked out now.
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On 19Jul2007 21:47, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote: | On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:44:40 -0400 Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote: | > Chris wrote: | > > I have it working just fine as-is. The biggest issue I can see right | > > now, is the sub-folders I have my mail currently in. | > > | > > IE: All Fedora mail goes to inbox/Fedora etc, etc, etc. | > > | > > If I kept is simple from the git-go where all mail just went into | > > the inbox, I would be done. | > | > What part of that is causing you work, getting the mail pulled down | > and sorted, or telling mutt how to find your mail? | > | > I use fetchmail and procmail for the former. The mailboxes command is | > what you set for the latter. | | Forgive my ignorance on this - Since I use Claws, here is | something how my current Mail dir looks like (Claws uses MH, in | #HOME/Mail) | | $HOME | Mail | inbox | Fedora | Fedora-DS | CentOS | Ubuntu | Etc, etc, etc
To tell mutt itself about this you need two settings:
set folder=~/Mail/inbox
which specifies your top level mail folder and:
mailboxes +Fedora +Fedora-DS +Centos +Ubuntu
which specifies which folders to watch for new mail. Mutt's "change folder" function has a show-folders mode with will show everything in ~/Mail/inbox without using the "mailboxes" setting.
| I can certainly pull mail from my ISP without issues, I'm unsure how to | now seperate them into the above while preserving the many emails that | currently live in the above dirs.
As Todd says, fetchmail to pull the mail and procmail to file it into the folders.
You have a lot of mail already filed in these folders - was Claws doing this filing for you?
Cheers,
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:53:28 +1000 Cameron Simpson cs@zip.com.au wrote:
On 19Jul2007 21:47, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote: | On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:44:40 -0400 Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote: | > Chris wrote: | > > I have it working just fine as-is. The biggest issue I can see right | > > now, is the sub-folders I have my mail currently in. | > > | > > IE: All Fedora mail goes to inbox/Fedora etc, etc, etc. | > > | > > If I kept is simple from the git-go where all mail just went into | > > the inbox, I would be done. | > | > What part of that is causing you work, getting the mail pulled down | > and sorted, or telling mutt how to find your mail? | > | > I use fetchmail and procmail for the former. The mailboxes command is | > what you set for the latter. | | Forgive my ignorance on this - Since I use Claws, here is | something how my current Mail dir looks like (Claws uses MH, in | #HOME/Mail) | | $HOME | Mail | inbox | Fedora | Fedora-DS | CentOS | Ubuntu | Etc, etc, etc
To tell mutt itself about this you need two settings:
set folder=~/Mail/inbox
which specifies your top level mail folder and:
mailboxes +Fedora +Fedora-DS +Centos +Ubuntu
which specifies which folders to watch for new mail. Mutt's "change folder" function has a show-folders mode with will show everything in ~/Mail/inbox without using the "mailboxes" setting.
| I can certainly pull mail from my ISP without issues, I'm unsure how to | now seperate them into the above while preserving the many emails that | currently live in the above dirs.
As Todd says, fetchmail to pull the mail and procmail to file it into the folders.
You have a lot of mail already filed in these folders - was Claws doing this filing for you?
Yes - this is correct. There is tons of mail in these folders.
On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 08:31:04PM -0500, Chris wrote:
Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
Hi,
I use mutt and have written some scripts to auto configure, distribute mails to lists folders, create a virtual folder so that one may use other clients, dovecot + clawsmail etc. If you want to try it, mail me offlist
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:31 -0500, Chris wrote:
Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
The mutt configuration file .muttrc has an option to tell mutt where you spoolfile is and where your mail is stored once it is put in folders. With that you should be able to do the changeover easily. -- ======================================================================= For every bloke who makes his mark, there's half a dozen waiting to rub it out. -- Andy Capp ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:23:01 -0500 Aaron Konstam akonstam@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:31 -0500, Chris wrote:
Hiya everyone!
I would love to move from Claws to Mutt. Can someone point me to a How-To or has anyone done this with either Claws or T-Bird and be willing to bend my ear?
TIA
The mutt configuration file .muttrc has an option to tell mutt where you spoolfile is and where your mail is stored once it is put in folders. With that you should be able to do the changeover easily.
You folks have been a great help, I mean that! Thank you. Now, my fetchmail works (but not).
I can connect, I can auth to the provider however, it just hangs then times out.
I have to auth using my mail address, racerx@makeworld.com to the mail server.
I tried pop3, apop and even auto.
For some reason, it just won't bring the mail down - any ideas?
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 11:10 -0500, Chris wrote:
Now, my fetchmail works (but not).
I can connect, I can auth to the provider however, it just hangs then times out.
I have to auth using my mail address, racerx@makeworld.com to the mail server.
I tried pop3, apop and even auto.
For some reason, it just won't bring the mail down - any ideas?
You might want to show us an example line, copied from your actual .fetchmailrc file, but without the password showing, rather than a retyped example.
e.g. poll pop.mail.yahoo.com.au proto pop3 user "ignored_mailbox", with password "secretwords", is "tim" here;
I use the glaringly obvious syntax, so it's easy to follow what I've set into mine. I do the same with things like iptables scripts (use the long parameters, not the abbreviations - which I never remember).
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:08:24 +0930 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 11:10 -0500, Chris wrote:
Now, my fetchmail works (but not).
I can connect, I can auth to the provider however, it just hangs then times out.
I have to auth using my mail address, racerx@makeworld.com to the mail server.
I tried pop3, apop and even auto.
For some reason, it just won't bring the mail down - any ideas?
You might want to show us an example line, copied from your actual .fetchmailrc file, but without the password showing, rather than a retyped example.
e.g. poll pop.mail.yahoo.com.au proto pop3 user "ignored_mailbox", with password "secretwords", is "tim" here;
I use the glaringly obvious syntax, so it's easy to follow what I've set into mine. I do the same with things like iptables scripts (use the long parameters, not the abbreviations - which I never remember).
Thanks Tim -
poll mail.makeworld.com proto pop3 user "user@makeworld.com", with password "sillymunkietrixr4kidz" keep, is "munkie" here;
[racerx@racerx ~]$ fetchmail 1 message for racerx@makeworld.com at mail.makeworld.com (3549 octets). reading message racerx@makeworld.com@MAIL.MAKEWORLD.COM.NETSOLMAIL.NET:1 of 1 (3549 octets)..fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [205.178.145.65/25] failed: Connection timed out. fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from racerx@makeworld.com@mail.makeworld.com and delivering to SMTP host localhost fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) [racerx@racerx ~]$
On 21Jul2007 11:12, Chris racerx@makeworld.com wrote: | > You might want to show us an example line, copied from your | > actual .fetchmailrc file, but without the password showing, rather | > than a retyped example. | > | > e.g. poll pop.mail.yahoo.com.au proto pop3 user "ignored_mailbox", | > with password "secretwords", is "tim" here; | > | > I use the glaringly obvious syntax, so it's easy to follow what I've | > set into mine. I do the same with things like iptables scripts (use | > the long parameters, not the abbreviations - which I never remember). | | Thanks Tim - | | poll mail.makeworld.com proto pop3 user "user@makeworld.com", with | password "sillymunkietrixr4kidz" keep, is "munkie" here; | | [racerx@racerx ~]$ fetchmail | 1 message for racerx@makeworld.com at mail.makeworld.com (3549 octets). | reading message | racerx@makeworld.com@MAIL.MAKEWORLD.COM.NETSOLMAIL.NET:1 of 1 (3549 | octets)..fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [205.178.145.65/25] | failed: Connection timed out. fetchmail: SMTP connect to localhost | failed fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from | racerx@makeworld.com@mail.makeworld.com and delivering to SMTP host | localhost fetchmail: Query status=10 (SMTP) [racerx@racerx ~]$
By default fetchmail delivers to an SMTP server (your local one).
It seems a little strange that "localhost:smtp" should be 205.178.145.65/25 instead of 127.0.0.1/25.
1: Why is it using a public IP address instead of 127.0.0.1 ? 2: Might you have firewall rules blocking connection to 205.178.145.65/25? (Personally I use REJECT instead of DROP; it makes things fail faster.)
Also, personally, I use procmail when delivering from fetchmail, eg:
mda "procmail $HOME/rc/mail/procmailrc"
Cheers,
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