Some sites don't work with Firefox (FC3)?

[Dave]

OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I 
tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science 
Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this server 
could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I 
get just plain "Bad request"

So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other end trying 
to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.

[John Cox]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave
 wrote:
> OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I
> tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science
> Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this server
> could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I
> get just plain "Bad request"
>
> So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other end trying
> to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.
>
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I just got both with no problem.

[Dave]

On Monday 27 December 2004 05:34 pm, John Cox wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave

wrote:
> > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I
> > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science
> > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this
> > server could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router
> > bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> I just got both with no problem.

Very interesting ... I just found another one.  My bank's web banking page 
tells me I must use a browser with javascript enabled ... but javascript IS 
enabled. And I can't find anywhere in the preferences how to change which 
browser string Firefox returns.

I'm running FC3, no updates. Fresh install. No browser extensions or anything 
funky installed yet. On a whim, I enabled popup windows to see if that 
affected anything. Nope.

FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown doesn't work. mp3's wouldn't 
work. My USB thumbdrive locks up the USB subsystem. One thing at a time, 
though ... have to be able to browse ...

[Antonio Olivares]

--- Dave  wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 05:34 pm, John Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave
>
>  
> wrote:
> > > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue
>
> about. Several websites I
> > > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access
>
> www.sfbc.com (Science
> > > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your
>
> browser sent a query this
> > > server could not understand."  Trying to get to
>
> www.woodline.com (router
> > > bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> > I just got both with no problem.
>
> Very interesting ... I just found another one.  My
> bank's web banking page 
> tells me I must use a browser with javascript
> enabled ... but javascript IS 
> enabled. And I can't find anywhere in the
> preferences how to change which 
> browser string Firefox returns.
>
> I'm running FC3, no updates. Fresh install. No
> browser extensions or anything 
> funky installed yet. On a whim, I enabled popup
> windows to see if that 
> affected anything. Nope.
>
> FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown
> doesn't work.

add acpi=ht to /boot/grub.conf this should do it

# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making
changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means
that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to
/boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,1)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora Core (2.6.9-1.667)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667 ro
root=/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 rhgb quietacpi=ht
        initrd /initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img
title windows
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
        chainloader +1

mp3's wouldn't
> work.

look here for advice and workarounds 
http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mjm-fedora-fc3.shtml
  or here
http://heidelberg.freshrpms.net/
  for many useful software.

My USB thumbdrive locks up the USB subsystem.
  update udev to the latest one and this problem
should be solved.
> One thing at a time, 
> though ... have to be able to browse ...
>
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Hope this helps,

Antonio

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[Dave]

On Monday 27 December 2004 07:21 pm, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> --- Dave  wrote:
> > FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown
> > doesn't work.
>
> add acpi=ht to /boot/grub.conf this should do it

Thanks--I'll try it, although I can't shut down right now to test it. But 
isn't that setting for hyperthreading? I'm not running an Intel CPU--I'm 
using an Athlon XP 2800

FWIW, /var/log/dmesg has the following to say about ACPI:

ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA694                                ) @ 0x000f6a20
ACPI: RSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3000
ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3040
ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000e) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008

[Dave]

On Monday 27 December 2004 07:53 pm, Dave wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 07:21 pm, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > --- Dave  wrote:
> > > FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown
> > > doesn't work.
> >
> > add acpi=ht to /boot/grub.conf this should do it
>
> Thanks--I'll try it, although I can't shut down right now to test it. But
> isn't that setting for hyperthreading? I'm not running an Intel CPU--I'm

Nevermind ... whatever it stands for, it worked. But where is that 
documented--what is it doing, and why do I need it? I may not be a guru, but 
I like to at least vaguely understand what I'm doing at some level, instead 
of just rote typing ...

[Travis Fraser]

On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 21:06 -0800, Dave wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 07:53 pm, Dave wrote:
> > On Monday 27 December 2004 07:21 pm, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > --- Dave  wrote:
> > > > FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown
> > > > doesn't work.
> > >
> > > add acpi=ht to /boot/grub.conf this should do it
> >
> > Thanks--I'll try it, although I can't shut down right now to test it. But
> > isn't that setting for hyperthreading? I'm not running an Intel CPU--I'm
>
> Nevermind ... whatever it stands for, it worked. But where is that 
> documented--what is it doing, and why do I need it? I may not be a guru, but 
> I like to at least vaguely understand what I'm doing at some level, instead 
> of just rote typing ...

I remember reading somewhere on this list that for AMD cpu, the kernel
boot argument acpi=ht is equivalent to acpi=off.

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Di, den 28.12.2004 schrieb Travis Fraser um 14:30:
> I remember reading somewhere on this list that for AMD cpu, the kernel
> boot argument acpi=ht is equivalent to acpi=off.
> Travis Fraser

Not really equivalent.

$ egrep -i 'ACPI|HT'
/usr/src/linux-2.6.9-1.6_FC2/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
        modprobe usbcore blinkenlights=1
        usbcore.blinkenlights=1
        ACPI    ACPI support is enabled.
        acpi=           [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface
                        Format: { force | off | ht | strict }
                        force -- enable ACPI if default was off
                        off -- disable ACPI if default was on
                        noirq -- do not use ACPI for IRQ routing
                        ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper
Threading
                                strictly ACPI specification compliant.
                        See also Documentation/pm.txt, pci=noacpi

Alexander

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Di, den 28.12.2004 schrieb Gaurav Prasad um 15:08:
>           I know may this bit off topic but I need some buying a
>
> laptop which
> gaurav

Please don't hijack a foreign thread!

Your question has nothing to do with "Some sites don't work with Firefox
(FC3)?" and the related discussion in this thread.

Alexander

[Jonathan Berry]

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:48:32 +0100, Alexander Dalloz  wrote:
> Am Di, den 28.12.2004 schrieb Travis Fraser um 14:30:
> > I remember reading somewhere on this list that for AMD cpu, the kernel
> > boot argument acpi=ht is equivalent to acpi=off.
> > Travis Fraser
>
> Not really equivalent.
>
> $ egrep -i 'ACPI|HT'
> /usr/src/linux-2.6.9-1.6_FC2/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
>         modprobe usbcore blinkenlights=1
>         usbcore.blinkenlights=1
>         ACPI    ACPI support is enabled.
>         acpi=           [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power
> Interface
>                         Format: { force | off | ht | strict }
>                         force -- enable ACPI if default was off
>                         off -- disable ACPI if default was on
>                         noirq -- do not use ACPI for IRQ routing
>                         ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper
> Threading
>                                 strictly ACPI specification compliant.
>                         See also Documentation/pm.txt, pci=noacpi
>
> Alexander

Which means it is equivalent for AMD CPUs and Intel CPUs with no
HyperThreading :).  Actually, Dave, you should know that your computer
*was* shutting down, it was just not turning off.  From there you
could turn off the power without causing any harm.  This is a known
bug and only affects some computers and is a problem with the 2.6.9
kernels, and not specifically FC.  If you use ACPI (for example, if
this is a laptop), you might want to just deal with the problem.  If
you see no ill effects, go ahead and use "acpi=off" since there is no
advantage, as you said, to using acpi=ht with an AMD CPU.

Jonathan

[Antonio Olivares]

--- Dave  wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 07:53 pm, Dave wrote:
> > On Monday 27 December 2004 07:21 pm, Antonio
>
> Olivares wrote:
> > > --- Dave
>
> wrote:
> > > > FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work.
>
> Shutdown
> > > > doesn't work.
> > >
> > > add acpi=ht to /boot/grub.conf this should do
>
> it
> > Thanks--I'll try it, although I can't shut down
>
> right now to test it. But
> > isn't that setting for hyperthreading? I'm not
>
> running an Intel CPU--I'm
>
> Nevermind ... whatever it stands for, it worked.
> But where is that 
> documented--what is it doing, and why do I need it?
> I may not be a guru, but 
> I like to at least vaguely understand what I'm doing
> at some level, instead 
> of just rote typing ...

Dave,  
   I encountered the same problem and googled,yahooed
around and I found this site 
http://fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28228&highlight=acpi%3Don
I don't know if it is well documented or not, but it
worked.

Regards,

Antonio
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On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 07:09:20PM -0800, Dave wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 05:34 pm, John Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave
>
> wrote:
> > > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I
> > > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science
> > > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this
> > > server could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router
> > > bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> > I just got both with no problem.
>
> Very interesting ... I just found another one.  My bank's web banking page 
> tells me I must use a browser with javascript enabled ... but javascript IS 
> enabled. And I can't find anywhere in the preferences how to change which 
> browser string Firefox returns.
>
> I'm running FC3, no updates. Fresh install. No browser extensions or anything 
> funky installed yet. On a whim, I enabled popup windows to see if that 
> affected anything. Nope.
>
> FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown doesn't work. mp3's wouldn't 
> work. My USB thumbdrive locks up the USB subsystem. One thing at a time, 
> though ... have to be able to browse ...

I find it amazing how sensitive Fedoras are to the hardware. These it
works on one machine but not another machine seem endless in fedora.

[Chuck Sterling]

Dave wrote:
> On Monday 27 December 2004 05:34 pm, John Cox wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave
>
> wrote:
> > > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I
> > > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science
> > > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this
> > > server could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router
> > > bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> > I just got both with no problem.
>
> Very interesting ... I just found another one.  My bank's web banking page 
> tells me I must use a browser with javascript enabled ... but javascript IS 
> enabled. And I can't find anywhere in the preferences how to change which 
> browser string Firefox returns.
>
> I'm running FC3, no updates. Fresh install. No browser extensions or anything 
> funky installed yet. On a whim, I enabled popup windows to see if that 
> affected anything. Nope.
>
> FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown doesn't work. mp3's wouldn't 
> work. My USB thumbdrive locks up the USB subsystem. One thing at a time, 
> though ... have to be able to browse ...

Perhaps you should consider updating the entire distribution, if you 
have not already done so. I was able to browse to www.sfbc.com with no 
problem; did not check the other. I'm currently using FF 1.0. Before 
updating the distro, there were enough problems that I eventually gave 
up and went back to core 2 until I got DSL and could get the core 3 
update done overnight...

Chuck

Quoting Chuck_Sterling :
> Dave wrote:
> > On Monday 27 December 2004 05:34 pm, John Cox wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:28:18 -0800, Dave
>
> > wrote:
> > > > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several
>
> websites I
> > > > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com
>
> (Science
> > > > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query
>
> this
> > > > server could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com
>
> (router
> > > > bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> > > I just got both with no problem.
> >
> > Very interesting ... I just found another one.  My bank's web
>
> banking page
> > tells me I must use a browser with javascript enabled ... but
>
> javascript IS
> > enabled. And I can't find anywhere in the preferences how to change
>
> which
> > browser string Firefox returns.
> >
> > I'm running FC3, no updates. Fresh install. No browser extensions
>
> or anything
> > funky installed yet. On a whim, I enabled popup windows to see if
>
> that
> > affected anything. Nope.
> >
> > FC3 hates me. My sound card won't work. Shutdown doesn't work.
>
> mp3's wouldn't
> > work. My USB thumbdrive locks up the USB subsystem. One thing at a
>
> time,
> > though ... have to be able to browse ...
>
> Perhaps you should consider updating the entire distribution, if you
> have not already done so. I was able to browse to www.sfbc.com with
> no
> problem; did not check the other. I'm currently using FF 1.0. Before
> updating the distro, there were enough problems that I eventually
> gave
> up and went back to core 2 until I got DSL and could get the core 3
> update done overnight...
>
> Chuck

You mention that you are running FC3 with no updates.  I would
definately update everything before trying to get things to work under
FC3.  I had sound issues as well as USB drive issues before I did that.
 I believe it is the udev package that you really need...

Just my $0.02

[tonydm]

Dave wrote:
> OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I 
> tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science 
> Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this server 
> could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I 
> get just plain "Bad request"
>
> So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other end trying 
> to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.

I use Firefox  0.9.2.  on WinXP Pro SP1 and on FC3.  No problem bringing 
up www.sfbc.com or www.woodline.com

tonydm

[Gustavo Seabra]

tonydm wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several 
> > websites I tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access 
> > www.sfbc.com (Science Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your 
> > browser sent a query this server could not understand."  Trying to 
> > get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I get just plain "Bad request"
> >
> > So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other end 
> > trying to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.
>
> I use Firefox  0.9.2.  on WinXP Pro SP1 and on FC3.  No problem 
> bringing up www.sfbc.com or www.woodline.com
>
> tonydm

I second that. Maybe if you upgrade your Firefox it will run better.

[Dave]

> > Dave wrote:
> > > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several
> > > websites I tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access
> > > www.sfbc.com (Science Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your
> > > browser sent a query this server could not understand."  Trying to
> > > get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I get just plain "Bad request"

OK, figured it out ... or rather figured out how to fix it without 
understanding exactly what the problem was. Something in the preferences 
imported from Mozilla was glitching things up. Deleted the Firefox 
preferences directory, restarted it, and told it not to import 
anything--voila! I don't have any of my settings, of course, but at least it 
works now ...

[Paul]

On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 18:24 -0800, tonydm wrote:
> Dave wrote:
> > OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several websites I 
> > tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access www.sfbc.com (Science 
> > Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your browser sent a query this server 
> > could not understand."  Trying to get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I 
> > get just plain "Bad request"
> >
> > So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other end trying 
> > to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.
>
> I use Firefox  0.9.2.  on WinXP Pro SP1 and on FC3.  No problem bringing 
> up www.sfbc.com or www.woodline.com

I can view the site with Firefox 1.0 on FC3 ... is it a issue with
accessing a secure site?   You might want to turn off TLS in the
advenced properties.

Regards,
Paul
> tonydm

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 27 December 2004 20:28, Dave wrote:
> OK, here's an interesting glitch I have no clue about. Several
> websites I tried today don't like Firefox. Trying to access
> www.sfbc.com (Science Fiction Book Club), I get "Bad request. Your
> browser sent a query this server could not understand."  Trying to
> get to www.woodline.com (router bits), I get just plain "Bad
> request"
>
> So is this a glitch with Firefox, or are the servers on the other
> end trying to match the browser? Both sites work with Konqueror.

FWIW, both sites work just fine here in the last firefox.
Maybe you have a firewall issue?