Certified Linux Laptop

[Lotsa Cabo]

I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
FC2.  My requirements are...

>= 1.5 GHz
    >= 1.0 GB
    >= 60 GB HD
    >= 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
    CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
    Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
    Bluetooth would be nice
    Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9

Any "tried and true" suggestions?

Thanx,
Ryan

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[RoboticGolem]

Dell.  A old friend of mine has been running FC1 on his Dell for some
time now, and before that he was using RH9, so they work.

-Matt

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:57:34 -0400, Lotsa Cabo  wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on
> FC2.  My requirements are...
>     >= 1.5 GHz
>     >= 1.0 GB
>     >= 60 GB HD
>     >= 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>     CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
>     Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
>     Bluetooth would be nice
>     Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Ryan
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[Lotsa Cabo]

On Aug 27, 2004, at 11:03 PM, RoboticGolem wrote:
> Dell.  A old friend of mine has been running FC1 on his Dell for some
> time now, and before that he was using RH9, so they work.

Interesting you should mention Dell.  I was just on their site.  I had 
heard they had laptops that they ship with RH, however I could not find 
any.  I also poked around on a few of the sites that claim Dells work 
well with Linux, but could not find any RECENT model numbers listed; 
either positive or negative.

Got a model number or two that you are confident would work well?  If 
not, then thanks for the info you did have.

R/S
Ryan

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[Gary Allen Vollink]

Dell does not have linux certified laptops (only desktops -- and in the 
current inventory it's only the Dell Precision series workstation).  
However ... The Dell Latitude D600 series is known to work well with 
Linux, although Modem support is spotty (this is true on almost every 
new laptop I've been able to find).

That said, if anybody knows of a laptop that comes with a Linux capable 
modem (without major overhaul issues or add-on PCMCIA cards), I'd be 
happy to hear about it, too.  I'm currently in the market for 22 laptops 
for my company and Linux compatability would be a good thing.

Thanks,
Gary Allen Vollink

Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2004, at 11:03 PM, RoboticGolem wrote:
> Dell. A old friend of mine has been running FC1 on his Dell for some
> time now, and before that he was using RH9, so they work.
>
>
>
> Interesting you should mention Dell. I was just on their site. I had 
> heard they had laptops that they ship with RH, however I could not 
> find any. I also poked around on a few of the sites that claim Dells 
> work well with Linux, but could not find any RECENT model numbers 
> listed; either positive or negative.
>
> Got a model number or two that you are confident would work well? If 
> not, then thanks for the info you did have.
>
> R/S
> Ryan
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[Michael Gargiullo]

Inspiron 600 works great with fedora core.  I've been told not order the
wireless card as only 802.11b not the 802.11.b g card

On Sat, 2004-08-28 at 00:26, Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2004, at 11:03 PM, RoboticGolem wrote:
>     Dell.  A old friend of mine has been running FC1 on his
>     Dellfor some
>     time now, and before that he was using RH9, so they work.
>
>
> Interesting you should mention Dell.  I was just on their site.  I
> hadheard they had laptops that they ship with RH, however I could
> notfind any.  I also poked around on a few of the sites that claim
> Dellswork well with Linux, but could not find any RECENT model
> numberslisted; either positive or negative.
>
> Got a model number or two that you are confident would work well? 
> Ifnot, then thanks for the info you did have.
>
> R/S
> Ryan
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[Scot L. Harris]

On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 22:57, Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development
> onFC2.  My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> Bluetooth would be nice
> Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Ryan

HP just announced linux based laptops.  They are using a version of Suse
on them.  Suppose to work well.

I think "Flawless functionality" will be difficult to achieve with FC2. 
The wireless connection alone will require jumping through at least a
few hoops to get it to work.

The Dell Latitude I am using is not bad, but it is not nearly as fast as
you are looking for.  However I have not had any significant problems. 
I would like to get the display at a slightly higher resolution but it
is 4+ years old.

And the largest disk drive I have found is a 20GB drive and memory maxes
out at 256MB.

For all that so far it has done everything I have needed.

[Satish Balay]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on FC2.  My
> requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
>    Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
>    Bluetooth would be nice
>    Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?

Currently using a thinkpad T40. Works pretty well with FC1. I've
tested it with FC2 briefly - works reasonably well in APM mode.

1.6
1.0GB
80G
1400x1050 (ati 9000)
cd-rw/dvd-rom
atheros a/b
Used usb-2.0 external hdd.

Haven't used bluetooth/modem/ir

BTW RHL9 is already EOL - so, if you need RHL9ish setup - FC1 is the
way to go.

Satish

[John McBride]

Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> FC2. My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> Bluetooth would be nice
> Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?

You could send your list to one of the companies specializing in linux 
laptops and see what they have to say. They also have plenty of info online.

http://www.emperorlinux.com/
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html

I have heard decent things about both of these shops, but I have not 
used their services, nor am I afilliated with either one.

---
John

[Tim]

My first question would be I'm going to install Linux is this a
problem?.  Sales will say "no problem :-)" and your next question should
be "If I find that my OS can't ID your hardware and it's a nightmare can
I send it right back?"  Because, and get their name, said no problem, so
don't start with the restocking charges or other fees.

If you tell them exactly what you want and what you are using this
machine for, and they send you the wrong one they should pay to pick it
up and refund your money.  But, if you are not clear or leave
information out it is your fault and you should be stuck with the
machine because that's what you ordered.

Yes, I do hate returns.  It costs me money because in essence I've sold
something twice - out/in for $0.00, and I may have to refund shipping
costs. No, I don't sell computers.

Tim...

On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 22:20, John McBride wrote:
> Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> > I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> > FC2. My requirements are...
> > > = 1.5 GHz
> > > = 1.0 GB
> > > = 60 GB HD
> > > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
> >
> > CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> > Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> > Bluetooth would be nice
> > Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
> >
> > Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> You could send your list to one of the companies specializing in linux 
> laptops and see what they have to say. They also have plenty of info online.
>
> http://www.emperorlinux.com/
> http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
>
> I have heard decent things about both of these shops, but I have not 
> used their services, nor am I afilliated with either one.
>
> John

[John McBride]

Okay, I have to ask...why on earth would either of these companies 
deceive anyone or try and (wrongfully) convince them their laptops run 
linux? That's all they sell--laptops that run linux! It's their 
specialty; all the specs are online. You don't have to ask people, or 
guess--just go look.

If it runs linux, is certified to run linux, has linux preinstalled, has 
the devices you need, why would you have to return it?

If there is some odd bit of a card or capability you need, that is not 
listed in their specs, then ask them up front.

Your post is really confusing the issue.

---
John

Timothy Payne wrote:
> My first question would be I'm going to install Linux is this a
> problem?.  Sales will say "no problem :-)" and your next question should
> be "If I find that my OS can't ID your hardware and it's a nightmare can
> I send it right back?"  Because, and get their name, said no problem, so
> don't start with the restocking charges or other fees.
>
> If you tell them exactly what you want and what you are using this
> machine for, and they send you the wrong one they should pay to pick it
> up and refund your money.  But, if you are not clear or leave
> information out it is your fault and you should be stuck with the
> machine because that's what you ordered.
>
> Yes, I do hate returns.  It costs me money because in essence I've sold
> something twice - out/in for $0.00, and I may have to refund shipping
> costs. No, I don't sell computers.
>
> Tim...
>
> On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 22:20, John McBride wrote:
> > Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> > > I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> > > FC2. My requirements are...
> > > > = 1.5 GHz
> > > > = 1.0 GB
> > > > = 60 GB HD
> > > > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
> > >
> > > CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> > > Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> > > Bluetooth would be nice
> > > Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
> > >
> > > Any "tried and true" suggestions?
> >
> > You could send your list to one of the companies specializing in linux 
> > laptops and see what they have to say. They also have plenty of info online.
> >
> > http://www.emperorlinux.com/
> > http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
> >
> > I have heard decent things about both of these shops, but I have not 
> > used their services, nor am I afilliated with either one.
> >
> > John

[Volker Kindermann]

Hi Ryan,
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> FC2.  My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
>    Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
>    Bluetooth would be nice
>    Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9

I'm running a Thinkpad T40p with Fedora2. It meets all of your
requirements (Pentium M 1.6 GHz, 1 GB RAM, 60 GB HD with 7200 RPM,
1400x1050 native resolution, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, Wireless (a,b,g), Gbit NIC,
sound, USB, PCMCIA, Bluetooth).

When looking for a Thinkpad please examine the exact modell number,
because there are quite some models named T40p that are quite different.
Mine is of Type 2372-G3G (one of the "G"s stands for german version).

-volker

[Kenneth Porter]

--On Friday, August 27, 2004 10:57 PM -0400 Lotsa Cabo 
 wrote:
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?

Today on SlashDot:

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/27/1928243

[Lotsa Cabo]

On Aug 28, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> Today on SlashDot:
>
> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/08/27/1928243

Sweet!  Thanx!  =)

R/S
Ryan

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[TroyGeek]

Not the requiments you want exactly but i'm running a Dell Inspiron 8500 
with FC2.
- 2.4 GHz
- 1 GB RAM
- 60 GB Hard Drive
- 1920x1200 Resolution
- CD-RW-DVD-ROM
- Don't have wireless yet but you can find a compatiable card
- Wired Network card works
- USB works

thanks!

~ TroyGeek ~

Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> FC2. My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> Bluetooth would be nice
> Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Ryan
>
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[J.L. Coenders]

I have a NEC P440 with almost anything working right now... the rest I still 
need the time for to work on...
However, it doesn't meet your requirements. I think that you can get a newer 
model from NEC with the requirements you need.

- Jeroen

On Saturday 28 August 2004 04:57 am, Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on
> FC2.  My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
>  Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
>  Bluetooth would be nice
>  Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Ryan
>
> Tired of spam?  Signup for a FREE SpamJammer.Com account and say
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[thomas cameron]

I am running FC2 on a 2.8 GHz Dell Inspiron 5100 with 1024 MB memory.  It is my understanding that the 5150 works flawlessly as well.  I bought an Orinoco mini-PCI wireless card off eBay for it so that Linux would be happy with it.  It meets all the requirements you list below.

Cheers,
Thomas
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I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on FC2. My requirements are...
> = 1.5 GHz
> = 1.0 GB
> = 60 GB HD
> = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution

CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
  Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
  Bluetooth would be nice
  Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9

Any "tried and true" suggestions?

Thanx,
  Ryan

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[Ben Steeves]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:57:34 -0400, Lotsa Cabo  wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on
> FC2.  My requirements are...
>     >= 1.5 GHz
>     >= 1.0 GB
>     >= 60 GB HD
>     >= 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>     CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
>     Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
>     Bluetooth would be nice
>     Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?

I have an IBM ThinkPad T30 that's run well with RH8, RH9, FC1, FC2,
FC3T1, Suse 9.1, Lindows 4.5, and probably a couple of other Linuxes
on it that I've forgotten about.  Currently it's running FC2.

It has just about everything on your list (except the GigE and USB2,
but the T30 is a little old -- the T4x models probably have those
standard or at least as options).  The native resolution is 1400x1050,
it has 1GB of RAM and a 1.8GHz P4.  All that in under 5 pounds of
laptop-y joy.

Do I like it?  You'd have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers to get
it away from me.  Or at least until work buys me a new one (which,
unless the lure of a PowerBook becomes too great, will also be a
ThinkPad).

[Darren Grant]

I'm using a Dell 600M as well. Works great with FC2. My only concern is 
that I got it with the ATI Radeon M9 card... and it just seems there's 
overall less support in the linux gaming community for ATI.  For 
instance... cedega (winex) has all kinds of posts and complaints about 
support for ATI, and whilte it's on their to-do list (which you can vote 
for)... there's no date set for when they're going to work on it.   I 
upgraded from an Inspiron 8000 which I had running FC1... but it had an 
nVidia video card and there just seemed to be less work involved in 
gaming.  So if you had the choice, I'd go with the nVidia card, even 
though I really do like ATI. But just my opinion and if you don't game 
alot...

Everything else works nicely... including the ipw2100 card.

-Darren

Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> FC2. My requirements are...
> > = 1.5 GHz
> > = 1.0 GB
> > = 60 GB HD
> > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
>
> CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> Bluetooth would be nice
> Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
>
> Any "tried and true" suggestions?
>
> Thanx,
> Ryan
>
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[Ow Mun Heng]

On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 23:22, Darren Grant wrote:
> I'm using a Dell 600M as well. Works great with FC2. My only concern is

D600.. Same issues..
Suspend to Disk and just currently, but not very much tested is Suspend
to Disk works.

Gaming.. I've never got America's Army/Unreal Tournament to work on it.
> that I got it with the ATI Radeon M9 card... and it just seems there's 
> overall less support in the linux gaming community for ATI.  For 
> instance... cedega (winex) has all kinds of posts and complaints about 
> support for ATI, and whilte it's on their to-do list (which you can vote 
> for)... there's no date set for when they're going to work on it.   I 
> upgraded from an Inspiron 8000 which I had running FC1... but it had an 
> nVidia video card and there just seemed to be less work involved in 
> gaming.  So if you had the choice, I'd go with the nVidia card, even 
> though I really do like ATI. But just my opinion and if you don't game 
> alot...
>
> Everything else works nicely... including the ipw2100 card.
>
> -Darren
>
> Lotsa Cabo wrote:
> > I am looking to purchase a new laptop to use for Linux development on 
> > FC2. My requirements are...
> > > = 1.5 GHz
> > > = 1.0 GB
> > > = 60 GB HD
> > > = 1200 x 1024 NATIVE resolution
> >
> > CD-RW/DVD-ROM (minimum)
> > Wireless (11Mb or 54Mb), 10/100/1000 NIC, sound, USB 2.0, PCMCIA
> > Bluetooth would be nice
> > Flawless functionality with FC2 and/or RH9
> >
> > Any "tried and true" suggestions?
> >
> > Thanx,
> > Ryan
> >
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