How to install ytnef?

[Ambrogio]

Hi all,
Im' looking for a way to enable evolution with ms-tnef winmail.dat.

Searching the Web I found that a possible solution is to install ytnef.

So i tried that:

# dnf list ytnef
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:48 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41
AM CEST.
Available Packages
ytnef.x86_64                                           2.6-16.fc26     
                                       fedora

# dnf install ytnef
Last metadata expiration check: 0:08:23 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41 AM CEST.
Error: 
 Problem: conflicting requests
  - nothing provides libytnef.so.0()(64bit) needed by ytnef-2.6-16.fc26.x86_64

# dnf whatprovides libytnef.so
Last metadata expiration check: 0:09:14 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41 AM CEST.
Error: No Matches found

What can be wrong?

Bye
 Ambrogio

[Ed Greshko]

On 10/04/17 16:29, Ambrogio wrote:
>  Hi all,
>  Im' looking for a way to enable evolution with ms-tnef winmail.dat.
>
>  Searching the Web I found that a possible solution is to install ytnef.
>
>  So i tried that:
>
>  # dnf list ytnef
>  Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:48 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41 AM CEST.
>  Available Packages
>
> ytnef.x86_64                                           2.6-16.fc26                                            fedora
>
>  # dnf install ytnef
>  Last metadata expiration check: 0:08:23 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41 AM CEST.
>  Error:
>   Problem: conflicting requests
>    - nothing provides libytnef.so.0()(64bit) needed by ytnef-2.6-16.fc26.x86_64
>
>  # dnf whatprovides libytnef.so
>  Last metadata expiration check: 0:09:14 ago on Wed 04 Oct 2017 10:18:41 AM CEST.
>  Error: No Matches found
>
>  What can be wrong?
>  
I just installed it as a test...

[root@meimei ~]# dnf history info
Transaction ID : 884
Begin time     : Wed 04 Oct 2017 05:10:50 PM CST
Begin rpmdb    : 4001:21eb00317082f738cad245c07567aa2c2744b513
End time       : Wed 04 Oct 2017 05:11:04 PM CST (14 seconds)
End rpmdb      : 4004:bc290da6c17ce8156a1b95d3231dac441c4642c0
User           : Ed Greshko <egreshko>
Return-Code    : Success
Command Line   : install ytnef
Transaction performed with:
    Installed     dnf-2.6.3-12.fc26.noarch   @updates
    Installed     rpm-4.13.0.1-7.fc26.x86_64 @updates
Packages Altered:
    Install perl-Convert-BinHex-1.125-4.fc26.noarch @fedora
    Install perl-MIME-tools-5.509-1.fc26.noarch     @fedora
    Install ytnef-2.6-16.fc26.x86_64                @fedora


[egreshko@meimei lib64]$ ls libytnef.so.0*
libytnef.so.0  libytnef.so.0.0.0

But then I found....

Last metadata expiration check: 5 days, 7:31:27 ago on Fri 29 Sep 2017 09:41:56 AM CST.
libytnef-1.5-15.fc24.x86_64 : TNEF Stream Parser Library
Repo        : @System

Showing I had the library file from back in the F24 days.

Checked koji and found there is a version for F26, but it is still in
updates-testing.....

So....do....

dnf --enablerepo updates-testing install ytnef 

and it should install fine....



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[Ambrogio]

Hi Ed,

Il giorno mer, 04/10/2017 alle 17.22 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
>  I just installed it as a test...
>   
...
>  
>  [egreshko@meimei lib64]$ ls libytnef.so.0*
>  libytnef.so.0  libytnef.so.0.0.0
>  
>  But then I found....
>  
>  Last metadata expiration check: 5 days, 7:31:27 ago on Fri 29 Sep
>  2017 09:41:56 AM CST.
>  libytnef-1.5-15.fc24.x86_64 : TNEF Stream Parser Library
>  Repo        : @System
>  
>  Showing I had the library file from back in the F24 days.
>  
>  Checked koji and found there is a version for F26, but it is still in
>  updates-testing.....
>  
>  So....do....
>  
>  dnf --enablerepo updates-testing install ytnef 
>  
>  and it should install fine.... 
Tnx for that.
I can't understand why there are a lot of packages errors and
dependency issues.
I know there is a lot of work on maintaining a so big distro, but I
start thinking Fedora isn't so good as before.
I hope it's only my impression... but I have a lot of problems with my
new installation, and I can't find a way to see the light :-(

I'll update after my test with ytnef.

Regards
 Ambrogio

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:27:35 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:

>  Tnx for that.
>  I can't understand why there are a lot of packages errors and
>  dependency issues.
>  I know there is a lot of work on maintaining a so big distro, but I
>  start thinking Fedora isn't so good as before.
>  I hope it's only my impression... but I have a lot of problems with my
>  new installation, and I can't find a way to see the light :-(
>  
>  I'll update after my test with ytnef. 
Somebody has retired the separate "libytnef" package, which is needed by
"ytnef", for multiple dist releases. The new combined "ytnef"
package,
which merges the library using an Epoch bump, has only been published for
Rawhide and F27. My bug report about that can be found at:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1492367

Since the missing libytnef has also made it impossible to build Claws
Mail, some days ago I've jumped in to fix the mess myself. Hence there is
the current Test Update, which is on its way to stable currently.

[Ambrogio]

Hi Ed
Il giorno mer, 04/10/2017 alle 17.22 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:

>  Checked koji and found there is a version for F26, but it is still
> in
>  updates-testing.....
>  
>  So....do....
>  
>  dnf --enablerepo updates-testing install ytnef 
>  
>  and it should install fine....
>   
Installed... but no integration with Evolution.
There is a way for enable support to ms-tnef on evo?

Bye
 Ambrogio

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:20:36 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:

>  Installed... but no integration with Evolution.
>  There is a way for enable support to ms-tnef on evo? 
Since you seem to be an expert in that area, it would be an opportunity
to contribute.

Is the following guide still accurate?

  https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Tnef

If so, it refers to a separate plugin, which somebody would need to
package.

Right?

[Ambrogio]

Hi Michael

Il giorno mer, 04/10/2017 alle 13.35 +0200, Michael Schwendt ha
scritto:
>  On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:20:36 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:
>  
>  > Installed... but no integration with Evolution.
>  > There is a way for enable support to ms-tnef on evo?
>  
>  Since you seem to be an expert in that area, it would be an
>  opportunity
>  to contribute.
>  
>  Is the following guide still accurate?
>  
>    https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Tnef 
Thankyou for this link.

>  
>  If so, it refers to a separate plugin, which somebody would need to
>  package.
>  
>  Right? 
I'm working hard on migration from my old Fedora to the new Fedora 26,
and I find everyday a problem (sometimes a very big problem).
I submitted the question in the evolution mailing list, as I think the
article is very very old.
I will update in this thread if I'll found a solution.

Bye
 Ambrogio

[Michael Schwendt]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 15:43:52 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:

>  I'm working hard on migration from my old Fedora to the new
> Fedora 26,
>  and I find everyday a problem (sometimes a very big problem).
>  I submitted the question in the evolution mailing list, as I think the
>  article is very very old.
>  I will update in this thread if I'll found a solution. 
Meanwhile I've check the Fedora evolution package spec file.
It builds with this:

    -DENABLE_YTNEF=OFF \                                                        

Older spec %changelog comments had turned on libytnef as a build
requirement, four years later turned it off again:

Files in evolution-3.26.1/src/modules/tnef-attachment/ include
ytnef.h and libytnef headers conditionally, but if turning it off
and not adding libytnef as build requirement, nothing will be built.

Note that this is not the full story yet.


* Thu Jul 02 2009 Matthew Barnes  mbarnes redhat com  - 2.27.3-4.fc12           
- Add BR for libpst-devel and libytnef-devel (RH bug #493049).                  

* Mon Oct 14 2013 Milan Crha  mcrha redhat com  - 3.10.1-1                      
- Update to 3.10.1                                                              
- Remove the dependency on libytnef, which apparently isn't needed for          
  the PST importer and disable the experimental TNEF attachments plugin

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2017-10-04 at 17:02 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>  On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 15:43:52 +0200, Ambrogio wrote:
>  
>  > I'm working hard on migration from my old Fedora to the new Fedora 26,
>  > and I find everyday a problem (sometimes a very big problem).
>  > I submitted the question in the evolution mailing list, as I think the
>  > article is very very old.
>  > I will update in this thread if I'll found a solution.
>  
>  Meanwhile I've check the Fedora evolution package spec file.
>  It builds with this:
>  
>      -DENABLE_YTNEF=OFF \                                                        
>  
>  Older spec %changelog comments had turned on libytnef as a build
>  requirement, four years later turned it off again:
>  
>  Files in evolution-3.26.1/src/modules/tnef-attachment/ include
>  ytnef.h and libytnef headers conditionally, but if turning it off
>  and not adding libytnef as build requirement, nothing will be built.
>  
>  Note that this is not the full story yet.
>  
>  
>  * Thu Jul 02 2009 Matthew Barnes  mbarnes redhat com  - 2.27.3-4.fc12           
>  - Add BR for libpst-devel and libytnef-devel (RH bug #493049).                  
>  
>  * Mon Oct 14 2013 Milan Crha  mcrha redhat com  - 3.10.1-1                      
>  - Update to 3.10.1                                                              
>  - Remove the dependency on libytnef, which apparently isn't needed for          
>    the PST importer and disable the experimental TNEF attachments plugin          
Please note that the OP also posted on the Evolution list:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-October/msg00018.ht
ml

poc

[Ambrogio]

Il giorno mer, 04/10/2017 alle 17.02 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan ha
scritto:


>  > Meanwhile I've check the Fedora evolution package spec
> file.
>  > It builds with this:
>  > 
>  >     -DENABLE_YTNEF=OFF \                                           
>  >              
>  > 
>  > Older spec %changelog comments had turned on libytnef as a build
>  > requirement, four years later turned it off again:
>  Please note that the OP also posted on the Evolution list:
>  
>  https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2017-October/msg00018.
>  ht
>  ml
>  
>  poc 
Right Patrick.
i asked in the evolution ML for the same question, because it seems
that evolution has the plugin (even if it's experimental).

The answer in the evolution ML is that It is up to distributions
whether they enable it when packaging.

There is no hope to see the plugin enabled and also no new evolution
version in Fedora 26.
I filed 3 different bugs, that was immediately solved in the current
version (but Fedora 26 does not use the current version but the oldest
one that I understand is no more developed).

Bye
 Ambrogio