Hi! I am trying to recover my password for fedora mail lists as i am trying to join also devel.. but it is requested an user name which i don't remember at all and there is no username recover page ...
What is the procedure for these situations?
Thank you! Adrian
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:05:01 +0300 Adrian Sevcenco Adrian.Sevcenco@cern.ch wrote:
Hi! I am trying to recover my password for fedora mail lists as i am trying to join also devel.. but it is requested an user name which i don't remember at all and there is no username recover page ...
What is the procedure for these situations?
The username is the email address that you are suscribed with.
The sign up process seems to have changed. It used to be as simple as putting in an email address and a password on a web form. I just tried to sign up and it seems to ask for a Fedora login in order to sign up. That can't be right.
I see on the documentation page for mailing lists that it does say this:
Using Mailing Lists To subscribe to a mailing list, follow the appropriate link below and fill out the subscription form, or send an email message to <listname>-request@lists.fedoraproject.org (replace <listname> with the desired mailing list name, such as users) with only the word subscribe in the subject. The mailing lists are hosted at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo
So you would send an email message to devel-request@lists.fedoraproject.org with subscribe in the subject line, and from the email address you wish to subscribe with.
That sounds more reasonable.
On 09/02/2016 05:05 AM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
Hi! I am trying to recover my password for fedora mail lists as i am trying to join also devel.. but it is requested an user name which i don't remember at all and there is no username recover page ...
What is the procedure for these situations?
Hi Adrian,
Do you have any emails from the list that were sent to your original subscription address? If so, view the headers and look for one called "Delivered-To". That should be your list user name.
Now go back through the "I forgot my password" process and you should be back in business.
HTH
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 08:55:05 -0700 stan stanl-fedorauser@vfemail.net wrote:
So you would send an email message to devel-request@lists.fedoraproject.org with subscribe in the subject line, and from the email address you wish to subscribe with.
I was able to subscribe to devel using this method.
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:05:01 +0300 Adrian Sevcenco Adrian.Sevcenco@cern.ch wrote:
Hi! I am trying to recover my password for fedora mail lists as i am trying to join also devel.. but it is requested an user name which i don't remember at all and there is no username recover page ...
What is the procedure for these situations?
Unlike mailman 2, mailman 3 (which we now use for all Fedora lists), has no local accounts or passwords. You instead manage your lists by logging in using some existing account and then attaching whatever email addresses you use to that account.
Currently, you can login via persona (which will work with any email address), yahoo, or fedora account system login.
Very soon a change is going out that drops persona (because mozilla is no longer going to support/run it) and adds a bunch of other sites like github, twitter, gitlab, google, facebook, stackexchange and others. You can of course still use your fedora account system login.
So, what you should do is go to:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/
and click on 'login' in the top right.
Choose a login method. If you don't have a yahoo or fedora account (and don't want one), probibly best to choose persona for now. Enter your email address and follow the directions.
Once you are logged in, go to 'my settings' and 'profile' and add email address. You will get a email with a confirm link in it, once you click on that that email will be attached to your account and you can subscribe/change prefs for it as much as you like.
kevin
On 09/02/2016 02:04 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:05:01 +0300 Adrian Sevcenco Adrian.Sevcenco@cern.ch wrote:
Hi! I am trying to recover my password for fedora mail lists as i am trying to join also devel.. but it is requested an user name which i don't remember at all and there is no username recover page ...
What is the procedure for these situations?
Unlike mailman 2, mailman 3 (which we now use for all Fedora lists), has no local accounts or passwords. You instead manage your lists by logging in using some existing account and then attaching whatever email addresses you use to that account.
Currently, you can login via persona (which will work with any email address), yahoo, or fedora account system login.
Very soon a change is going out that drops persona (because mozilla is no longer going to support/run it) and adds a bunch of other sites like github, twitter, gitlab, google, facebook, stackexchange and others. You can of course still use your fedora account system login.
So, what you should do is go to:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/
and click on 'login' in the top right.
Choose a login method. If you don't have a yahoo or fedora account (and don't want one), probibly best to choose persona for now. Enter your email address and follow the directions.
Once you are logged in, go to 'my settings' and 'profile' and add email address. You will get a email with a confirm link in it, once you click on that that email will be attached to your account and you can subscribe/change prefs for it as much as you like.
They really should drop Yahoo as well. I'm going to drop (well, do absolutely nothing with) my yahoo account since those yahoos (pun intended) decided to lobotomize their protocol so libpurple and such won't work with it any longer. You have to use THEIR client (which isn't available for Linux--only phones) or the web. Sheesh! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 - - - - All generalizations are false. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Allegedly, on or about 02 September 2016, Rick Stevens sent:
They really should drop Yahoo as well. I'm going to drop (well, do absolutely nothing with) my yahoo account since those yahoos (pun intended) decided to lobotomize their protocol so libpurple and such won't work with it any longer. You have to use THEIR client (which isn't available for Linux--only phones) or the web. Sheesh!
I'd been seeing that warning message for a while, wondering when they were going to do the dirty. Looks like they finally killed it tonight.
I am so thoroughly sick of the greedy, short-sighted, attitude of the various IM protocol developers. With the deliberate inability for one protocol to communicate to another, forcing us to run multiple clients (to deal with all the different people that we communicate with), or something like Pidgin that could manage multiple protocols.
Their own clients are user-hostile, with hideous interfaces and annoying advertising, data-mining, ever-changing settings and features. You wouldn't want to run them if you had a choice. I won't be running to use Yahoo's client. If it can't be made to run with Pidgin, it's going to get dumped.
I used to like using Jabber, because I like the idea of it (an open protocol, that's the opposite of trying to be "only use me, only I am important"), but lack of servers (either far-from continuously reliable, or long-lived) has been offputting over the years (and it's got worse). To me, and the reason by few others (than true computer geeks) will use it.
I wonder if its feasible for there to be an officially supported Fedora Jabber server (as opposed to someone's server running off their home PC, which won't be up to the task, nor have a long-enough lifespan to be useful).
I am sick of the ever-changing me-only IM schemes, MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, Skype, etc., with their crapily programed Linux clients, if they even exist. It's long past time that IM was a general purpose protocol that everything used, like email is.
Will they ever learn that proprietary communications protocols are a shit idea?
On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 15:04:07 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: [....]
Unlike mailman 2, mailman 3 (which we now use for all Fedora lists), has no local accounts or passwords. You instead manage your lists by logging in using some existing account and then attaching whatever email addresses you use to that account.
Currently, you can login via persona (which will work with any email address), yahoo, or fedora account system login.
Very soon a change is going out that drops persona (because mozilla is no longer going to support/run it) and adds a bunch of other sites like github, twitter, gitlab, google, facebook, stackexchange and others. You can of course still use your fedora account system login.
[....]
What is all this going to do to Gmane?
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 15:04:07 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: [....]
Unlike mailman 2, mailman 3 (which we now use for all Fedora lists), has no local accounts or passwords. You instead manage your lists by logging in using some existing account and then attaching whatever email addresses you use to that account.
Currently, you can login via persona (which will work with any email address), yahoo, or fedora account system login.
Very soon a change is going out that drops persona (because mozilla is no longer going to support/run it) and adds a bunch of other sites like github, twitter, gitlab, google, facebook, stackexchange and others. You can of course still use your fedora account system login.
[....]
What is all this going to do to Gmane?
Nothing, since sadly, gmane is gone. :(
http://lwn.net/Articles/695695/
kevin
On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:03:29 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
What is all this going to do to Gmane?
Nothing, since sadly, gmane is gone. :(
Well, if that's so, how come I'm using it now??
On 09/05/2016 11:16 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:03:29 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
What is all this going to do to Gmane?
Nothing, since sadly, gmane is gone. :(
Well, if that's so, how come I'm using it now??
As am I. The NNTP interface is alive and well, and with no immediate plans to shut it down. nntp://news.gmane.org
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 12:38:05 -0500 Robert Nichols rnicholsNOSPAM@comcast.net wrote:
On 09/05/2016 11:16 AM, Beartooth wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:03:29 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Beartooth beartooth@comcast.net wrote:
What is all this going to do to Gmane?
Nothing, since sadly, gmane is gone. :(
Well, if that's so, how come I'm using it now??
As am I. The NNTP interface is alive and well, and with no immediate plans to shut it down. nntp://news.gmane.org
Indeed, I missed his update:
https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/comment-page-1/#com...
So, the nntp and mta part are back up and he will keep running them, the web server however isn't coming back unless someone else takes it over.
kevin
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