2:22 p.m.
On a new fedora 31 installed this week and updated i am unable to get
Thunderbird-68.3.1 to display a message list using 24 hour time.
The Date and Time Regional setting can not be changed from US English
to und as expected. I've tried downgrading Thunderbird, and rebooted the
system, nothing has helped.
This computer, with the same settings, displays the time in 24 hour format.
I haven't been able to work this out so perhaps someone has a suggestion ...
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia,
Fedora Linux-31 XFCE
4:56 p.m.
On 2019-12-25 04:22, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On a new fedora 31 installed this week and updated i am unable to get
Thunderbird-68.3.1 to display a message list using 24 hour time.
The Date and Time Regional setting can not be changed from US English to und as
expected. I've tried downgrading Thunderbird, and rebooted the
system, nothing has helped.
This computer, with the same settings, displays the time in 24 hour format.
I haven't been able to work this out so perhaps someone has a suggestion ...
It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C.
What does the followng LONG command string return?
xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat /proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?
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5:24 p.m.
On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote:
It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable
LC_TIME=C.
What does the followng LONG command string return?
xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat/proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?
-
.
Well I do have this which I hope runs after rebooted:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
# User specific environment
if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
then
PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
export PATH
# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging
feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=
# User specific aliases and functions
export LC_TYPE="C"
And I.m not certain I got the pid right but this is what I see:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps ax | grep thunderbird
1652 ? Sl 0:50 /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird
2431 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /proc/$1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ;
echo $?
cat: /proc/652/environ: No such file or directory
1
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Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia,
Fedora Linux-31 XFCE
5:40 p.m.
On 2019-12-25 07:24, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote:
> It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C.
>
> What does the followng LONG command string return?
>
> xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat/proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo
$?
>
> -
.
Well I do have this which I hope runs after rebooted:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/.bashrc
# .bashrc
# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
. /etc/bashrc
fi
# User specific environment
if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
then
PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
export PATH
# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging
feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=
# User specific aliases and functions
export LC_TYPE="C"
What is LC_TYPE?????
And I.m not certain I got the pid right but this is what I see:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps ax | grep thunderbird
1652 ? Sl 0:50 /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird
2431 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /proc/$1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo
$?
cat: /proc/652/environ: No such file or directory
1
OK, why did you not enter the command as I typed it? It would have avoided any issues of
what the PID is.
Anyway, the PID is 1652 but your next command is wrong....
It should have been....
cat /proc1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?
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The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
6:26 p.m.
On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote:
> What is LC_TYPE?????.
Something from my subconscious apparently ...
LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting.
Thank you
I'd like to have 24 hour time also but this theme has confused me.
If I could JUST put LC_TIME="C" and have it work, where would I enter
this command?
--doug
6:53 p.m.
On 2019-12-25 08:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> What is LC_TYPE?????.
>
> Something from my subconscious apparently ...
>
> LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting.
>
> Thank you
>
I'd like to have 24 hour time also but this theme has confused me.
If I could JUST put LC_TIME="C" and have it work, where would I enter
this command?
Well, if you want this to be "globally" for a user you'd add
export LC_TIME=C
to your ~/.bash_profile file.
However, to have an effect withing thunderbird you'd have to take the additional step
of editing its preferences for Date and Time Formatting and check the box for
Regional Setting locale which should show "und" when t-bird is started with
LC_TIME=C
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2:25 a.m.
On 25/12/19 11:53, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2019-12-25 08:26, Doug McGarrett wrote:
>
> On 12/24/2019 06:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>> What is LC_TYPE?????.
>> Something from my subconscious apparently ...
>>
>> LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
> I'd like to have 24 hour time also but this theme has confused me.
> If I could JUST put LC_TIME="C" and have it work, where would I enter
> this command?
Well, if you want this to be "globally" for a user you'd add
export LC_TIME=C
to your ~/.bash_profile file.
However, to have an effect withing thunderbird you'd have to take the additional
step
of editing its preferences for Date and Time Formatting and check the box for
Regional Setting locale which should show "und" when t-bird is started with
LC_TIME=C
I had the same issue in F30 in Gnome, even though Gnome was showing
times in 24 hour format, Thunderbird 72.0a1 was not. To get Thunderbird
to display times in 24 hour format I had to Gnome
Settings->Details->Date & Time and deactivate 'Automatic Date &
Time'. I
then also installed the Configdate addon to set a hidden Thunderbird
setting to cause Thunderbird to display the date and 24 hour time format
the way I wanted. In the Date & Time settings I have 'Automatic Time
Zone' active and 'Time Format' set to 24-hour.
I'm not using LC_TIME=C as /proc/2593/environ does not have any
reference to LC_TIME.
regards,
Steve
9:50 p.m.
On 2019-12-25 07:58, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2019-12-24 18:40, Ed Greshko wrote:
> What is LC_TYPE?????.
Something from my subconscious apparently ...
LC_TIME="C" works and I get 24 hour time after rebooting.
Thank you
You were probably thinking of "LC_CTYPE". But that has to do with Character
Sets and not "time". :-)
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The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
6:07 p.m.
On 12/24/19 3:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
OK, why did you not enter the command as I typed it? It would have
avoided any issues of what the PID is.
Anyway, the PID is 1652 but your next command is wrong....
It should have been....
cat /proc1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?
You dropped a slash. Wouldn't it be easier to just do "grep -z LC_TIME=
/proc/1652/environ"? That way if it doesn't match, then you will also
know what it is. I did figure out why you had the echo after and I
adjusted my grep command to account for that. The environ "file" is
zero-terminated strings which grep by default assumes to be binary. The
"-z" makes it consider nulls as newlines.
$ grep -z LC_TIME /proc/$$/environ
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
6:14 p.m.
On 2019-12-25 08:07, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 12/24/19 3:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> OK, why did you not enter the command as I typed it? It would have avoided any
issues of what the PID is.
>
> Anyway, the PID is 1652 but your next command is wrong....
>
> It should have been....
>
> cat /proc1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ; echo $?
You dropped a slash. Wouldn't it be easier to just do "grep -z LC_TIME=
/proc/1652/environ"? That way if it doesn't match, then you will also know what
it is. I did figure out why you had the echo after and I adjusted my grep command to
account for that. The environ "file" is zero-terminated strings which grep by
default assumes to be binary. The "-z" makes it consider nulls as newlines.
$ grep -z LC_TIME /proc/$$/environ
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
Thanks for that. Yes. As always I claim 07:00 responses and no coffee. :-)
How about
grep -z LC_TIME= /proc/`pidof thunderbird`/environ
?
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4:12 p.m.
Hello Ed,
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 07:40:23 +0800 Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com> wrote:
On 2019-12-25 07:24, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>
> On 2019-12-24 17:56, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> It sounds as if you're not running with the environment variable LC_TIME=C.
>>
>> What does the followng LONG command string return?
>>
>> xx=`pidof thunderbird` ; cat/proc/$xx/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ;
echo $?
>>
>> -
>
> .
>
> Well I do have this which I hope runs after rebooted:
>
> [bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /home/bobg/.bashrc
> # .bashrc
>
> # Source global definitions
> if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
> . /etc/bashrc
> fi
>
> # User specific environment
> if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
> then
> PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
> fi
> export PATH
>
> # Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging
feature:
> # export SYSTEMD_PAGER=
>
> # User specific aliases and functions
>
> export LC_TYPE="C"
What is LC_TYPE?????
[snip]
Exactly what I was wondering. A wrong mix of LC_CTYPE and LC_TIME ? ;-)
Regards,
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wwp
https://useplaintext.email/
5:59 p.m.
On 12/24/19 3:24 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ ps ax | grep thunderbird
1652 ? Sl 0:50 /usr/lib64/thunderbird/thunderbird
2431 pts/1 S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto thunderbird
[bobg@Workstation-2 ~]$ cat /proc/$1652/environ | grep "LC_TIME=[Cc]" ;
echo $?
cat: /proc/652/environ: No such file or directory
1
Why did you put the $ in there? Notice which directory you ended up
with: /proc/652/environ. Bash substituted for the $1 which is empty.
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