I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
Thank you for any suggestions, and best wishes, Ranjan
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
What does the tail of dmeg say? I believe that's where you will see the initial kernel and udev activity.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
One comment here... I understand the counterfits have an additional chip or logic that misreports the size. The real problems do not surface until you actually try to use the space. So plugging the usb drive in may not be enough to validate the drive. Instead, you want to write a 12 TB or 14 TB of data to ensure it's not a 256 GB or 1 TB drive.
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
Jeff
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
I think that you need a number after sdb . Do you have it formatted as one massive filesystem?
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
I expect you meant 15.2 Tsomething.
Thanks very much for your suggestions:
On Wed Nov06'24 11:59:42AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
From: Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 11:59:42 -0500 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
What does the tail of dmeg say? I believe that's where you will see the initial kernel and udev activity.
I think that here is the relevant output from dmesg. Let me know if you need more information.
.[122815.654311] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 96 .[122817.986491] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 97 using xhci_hcd .[122818.113185] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, idProduct=1234, bcdDevice= 1.00 .[122818.113209] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 .[122818.113217] usb 2-1: Product: USB 3.1 .[122818.113222] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: PSSD .[122818.113226] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: .[122818.115101] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected .[122818.115817] scsi host6: usb-storage 2-1:1.0 .[122819.145247] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access AL SSD 5.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 .[122819.146573] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 .[122819.147125] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). .[122819.148810] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 4096000000 4096-byte logical blocks: (16.8 TB/15.3 TiB) .[122819.148933] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off .[122819.148935] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 .[122819.149051] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found .[122819.149053] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through .[122819.150014] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). .[122819.155413] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk .[122819.181249] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_OK cmd_age=0s .[122819.181262] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] .[122819.181266] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range .[122819.181272] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 f4 23 ff f0 00 00 01 00 .[122819.181275] critical target error, dev sdb, sector 32767999872 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 .[122819.181735] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_OK cmd_age=0s .[122819.181738] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] .[122819.181740] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range .[122819.181741] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 f4 23 ff f0 00 00 01 00 .[122819.181742] critical target error, dev sdb, sector 32767999872 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 2 .[122819.181745] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 4095999984, async page read .[122820.852350] audit: type=1101 audit(1730915961.350:2174): pid=134283 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting grantors=pam_unix,pam_localuser acct="username" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" hostname=? addr=? terminal=/dev/pts/6 res=success' .[122820.854205] audit: type=1123 audit(1730915961.352:2175): pid=134283 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='cwd="/home/username" cmd="dmesg" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" terminal=pts/6 res=success' .[122820.856510] audit: type=1110 audit(1730915961.355:2176): pid=134283 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_localuser,pam_unix acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" hostname=? addr=? terminal=/dev/pts/6 res=success' .[122820.868528] audit: type=1105 audit(1730915961.367:2177): pid=134283 uid=1000 auid=1000 ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:session_open grantors=pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix acct="root" exe="/usr/bin/sudo" hostname=? addr=? terminal=/dev/pts/6 res=success'
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
One comment here... I understand the counterfits have an additional chip or logic that misreports the size. The real problems do not surface until you actually try to use the space. So plugging the usb drive in may not be enough to validate the drive. Instead, you want to write a 12 TB or 14 TB of data to ensure it's not a 256 GB or 1 TB drive.
I see, thanks for this information. I was not aware.
Best wishes, Ranjan
Thanks, Michael!
On Wed Nov06'24 11:58:15AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
From: Michael Hennebry hennebry@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 11:58:15 -0600 (CST) To: Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
I think that you need a number after sdb . Do you have it formatted as one massive filesystem?
Just to be "safe," I formatted it using that Windoze box. It appears to be formatted as one massive file system?
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
I expect you meant 15.2 Tsomething.
Yes, right: I have never seen such a massive USB which is why I got it to check it out:-)
Best wishes, Ranjan
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On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 at 16:54, Ranjan Maitra via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
You could try 'lsblk /dev/<device>' and see what that outputs, see if that helps make sense of a) the device's partition layout and b) any filesystems on those partitions. For example:
root@fedora:~# lsblk /dev/nvme0n1 NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS nvme0n1 259:0 0 953.9G 0 disk ├─nvme0n1p1 259:1 0 600M 0 part /boot/efi ├─nvme0n1p2 259:2 0 1G 0 part /boot └─nvme0n1p3 259:3 0 952.3G 0 part /home / And then 'lsblk -f /dev/<device>' to show what's known about filesystems:
# lsblk -f /dev/nvme0n1 NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS nvme0n1
├─nvme0n1p1 vfat FAT32 DC0B-5B4B 579.7M 3% /boot/efi ├─nvme0n1p2 ext4 1.0 3352353a-c664-4631-aec0-82ba2ceec4bc 614.8M 30% /boot └─nvme0n1p3 btrfs fedora_localhost-live 96a27e82-57ae-4b15-9beb-f5c856c2638b 831.6G 13% /home
/ I suspect if you've formatted the disk on Windows you'll have NTFS or exFAT?
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 1:10 PM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed Nov06'24 11:59:42AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
From: Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 11:59:42 -0500 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
What does the tail of dmeg say? I believe that's where you will see the initial kernel and udev activity.
I think that here is the relevant output from dmesg. Let me know if you need more information.
.[122815.654311] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 96 .[122817.986491] usb 2-1: new high-speed USB device number 97 using xhci_hcd .[122818.113185] usb 2-1: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, idProduct=1234, bcdDevice= 1.00 .[122818.113209] usb 2-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 .[122818.113217] usb 2-1: Product: USB 3.1 .[122818.113222] usb 2-1: Manufacturer: PSSD .[122818.113226] usb 2-1: SerialNumber: .[122818.115101] usb-storage 2-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected .[122818.115817] scsi host6: usb-storage 2-1:1.0 .[122819.145247] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access AL SSD 5.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 .[122819.146573] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 .[122819.147125] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). .[122819.148810] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 4096000000 4096-byte logical blocks: (16.8 TB/15.3 TiB) .[122819.148933] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off .[122819.148935] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 0b 00 00 08 .[122819.149051] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found .[122819.149053] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through .[122819.150014] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). .[122819.155413] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk .[122819.181249] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_OK cmd_age=0s .[122819.181262] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] .[122819.181266] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range .[122819.181272] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 f4 23 ff f0 00 00 01 00 .[122819.181275] critical target error, dev sdb, sector 32767999872 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 1 prio class 0 .[122819.181735] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 FAILED Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_OK cmd_age=0s .[122819.181738] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] .[122819.181740] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range .[122819.181741] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] tag#0 CDB: Read(10) 28 00 f4 23 ff f0 00 00 01 00 .[122819.181742] critical target error, dev sdb, sector 32767999872 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x0 phys_seg 1 prio class 2 .[122819.181745] Buffer I/O error on dev sdb, logical block 4095999984, async page read
Based on the Buffer I/O error, this could indicate a failing drive; see https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/omic2r/buffer_io_on_dev_sdb_logical_block_0_async_page/. `smartctl -x /dev/sdb` may give you more information.
If the sectors were reallocated, like in https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=149547, then it would be less of a concern. But yours seems to be a hard problem.
I better defer to some of the folks more experienced with disk problems.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
One comment here... I understand the counterfits have an additional chip or logic that misreports the size. The real problems do not surface until you actually try to use the space. So plugging the usb drive in may not be enough to validate the drive. Instead, you want to write a 12 TB or 14 TB of data to ensure it's not a 256 GB or 1 TB drive.
I see, thanks for this information. I was not aware.
Jeff
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
This looks very relevant to your case: https://askubuntu.com/q/1424120 It even discusses the Chinese counterfeit hardware.
Jeff
Thanks very much for this!
On Wed Nov06'24 01:30:26PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
From: Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:30:26 -0500 To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
This looks very relevant to your case: https://askubuntu.com/q/1424120 It even discusses the Chinese counterfeit hardware.
Indeed, it is very relevant to my case. lsusb reports:
Bus 003 Device 027: ID 048d:1234 Integrated Technology Express, Inc. Chipsbank CBM2199 Flash Drive
which is the same as mentioned in that site.
Sorry for wasting all your time.
Best wishes, Ranjan
On 11/6/24 9:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
Thank you for any suggestions, and best wishes, Ranjan
Some time ago (I don't recall when), I had a thread in this list in which I wanted to know how to check if a USB drive has the claimed capacity. I was directed to:
f3 ("https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/#") and f3probe ("https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/usage.html#id6"). f3probe is a part of f3, as is f3read and f3write. f3 is available via dnf, if you don't already have it.
These might be useful for checking that the drive really has the capacity it claims to have. I found them useful.
Beyond that, others in this list are much more qualified to help.
Thank you!
On Wed Nov06'24 12:11:21PM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
From: home user via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 12:11:21 -0700 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: home user mattisonw@comcast.net Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
On 11/6/24 9:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
Thank you for any suggestions, and best wishes, Ranjan
Some time ago (I don't recall when), I had a thread in this list in which I wanted to know how to check if a USB drive has the claimed capacity. I was directed to:
f3 ("https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/#") and f3probe ("https://fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/usage.html#id6").
So, I got the folowing:
$ sudo f3probe --destructive --time-ops /dev/sde F3 probe 8.0 Copyright (C) 2010 Digirati Internet LTDA. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
WARNING: Probing normally takes from a few seconds to 15 minutes, but it can take longer. Please be patient.
Bad news: The device `/dev/sde' is damaged
Device geometry: *Usable* size: 0.00 Byte (0 blocks) Announced size: 15.26 TB (4096000000 blocks) Module: 16.00 TB (2^44 Bytes) Approximate cache size: 0.00 Byte (0 blocks), need-reset=no Physical block size: 4.00 KB (2^12 Bytes)
Probe time: 128.8ms Operation: total time / count = avg time Read: 0us / 0 = 0us Write: 127.7ms / 512 = 249us Reset: 0us / 0 = 0us
So, I guess this means that the USB is bad.
Thanks, Ranjan
f3probe is a part of f3, as is f3read and f3write. f3 is available via dnf, if you don't already have it.
These might be useful for checking that the drive really has the capacity it claims to have. I found them useful.
Beyond that, others in this list are much more qualified to help.
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If you paid less than US$1000, then the only 2 options are: it is stolen (pretty unlikely as they would still sell it for a high price) or fake.
And if it is just a usb key device (not an external disk enclosure) it must be fake because I don't think you can actually fit the memory chips for 16tb in something that small.
So this is likely a much smaller usb device with firmware to make it appear like a 16tb device.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:31 PM Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
This looks very relevant to your case: https://askubuntu.com/q/1424120 It even discusses the Chinese counterfeit hardware.
Jeff
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On Wed Nov06'24 01:50:18PM, Roger Heflin wrote:
From: Roger Heflin rogerheflin@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:50:18 -0600 To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
If you paid less than US$1000, then the only 2 options are: it is stolen (pretty unlikely as they would still sell it for a high price) or fake.
And if it is just a usb key device (not an external disk enclosure) it must be fake because I don't think you can actually fit the memory chips for 16tb in something that small.
So this is likely a much smaller usb device with firmware to make it appear like a 16tb device.
Indeed, I got taken for a ride, thank you! I will ask for my money back, and see.
Just curious, what is the largest amount for which memory chips can currently fit in a USB? 1-2 TB? Or far less?
(I was not aware of all these complexities.)
Many thanks, Ranjan
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:31 PM Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
This looks very relevant to your case: https://askubuntu.com/q/1424120 It even discusses the Chinese counterfeit hardware.
Jeff
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On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 2:55 PM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed Nov06'24 01:50:18PM, Roger Heflin wrote:
From: Roger Heflin rogerheflin@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:50:18 -0600 To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
If you paid less than US$1000, then the only 2 options are: it is stolen (pretty unlikely as they would still sell it for a high price) or fake.
And if it is just a usb key device (not an external disk enclosure) it must be fake because I don't think you can actually fit the memory chips for 16tb in something that small.
So this is likely a much smaller usb device with firmware to make it appear like a 16tb device.
Indeed, I got taken for a ride, thank you! I will ask for my money back, and see.
Just curious, what is the largest amount for which memory chips can currently fit in a USB? 1-2 TB? Or far less?
(I was not aware of all these complexities.)
You will spot it like a boss next time :) How do you think we learned it?
Jeff
I will only buy usb keys from newegg and I always make sure to pick Sold by Newegg. Newegg also has 3rd party sellers and they at one time cleaned up the outright fraud larger USB devices.
The largest newegg carries(under sold by newegg) is 1tb with a reliable brand name and those are $80-$150. There is a 2tb one from a brand I have not heard of at $140 but nothing larger than 2tb is being sold.
So newegg is at least policing this outright fraud. It appears that amazon is now possibly policing this outright fraud (a few years ago $30 1-2tb drives were all over both of them, all fake).
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 1:55 PM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed Nov06'24 01:50:18PM, Roger Heflin wrote:
From: Roger Heflin rogerheflin@gmail.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 13:50:18 -0600 To: noloader@gmail.com, Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: Ranjan Maitra mlmaitra@gmx.com Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: mounting a 16TB USB on Fedora 40
If you paid less than US$1000, then the only 2 options are: it is stolen (pretty unlikely as they would still sell it for a high price) or fake.
And if it is just a usb key device (not an external disk enclosure) it must be fake because I don't think you can actually fit the memory chips for 16tb in something that small.
So this is likely a much smaller usb device with firmware to make it appear like a 16tb device.
Indeed, I got taken for a ride, thank you! I will ask for my money back, and see.
Just curious, what is the largest amount for which memory chips can currently fit in a USB? 1-2 TB? Or far less?
(I was not aware of all these complexities.)
Many thanks, Ranjan
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:31 PM Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:54 AM Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
I recently got a 16TB USB disk and was trying to mount it on Fedora 40 using spacefm. I get the following:
Mount /dev/sdb:
Status: Finished with error (Exit status 1).
Object /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdb is not a mountable file system.
My first instinct was that I got taken for a ride so I hopped over to a colleague's Windoze machine, but there the USB drive is visible (with the capacitty of 15.2 GiB, as expected).
So, is there anything special that I have to do to mount it on Fedora 40, because of its size?
This looks very relevant to your case: https://askubuntu.com/q/1424120 It even discusses the Chinese counterfeit hardware.
Jeff
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On 6 Nov 2024, at 19:55, Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Just curious, what is the largest amount for which memory chips can currently fit in a USB? 1-2 TB? Or far less?
The samsung external usb ssd I like max out a 4TB.
Barry
That is a 2.5" right? I think the one RanJan has is a 16tb usb key.
Commercial 2.5" ssd's go up to above 16tb+ but cost real money. Ie $3k+ for 16tb, and >$5k for 30tb.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 3:42 PM Barry barry@barrys-emacs.org wrote:
On 6 Nov 2024, at 19:55, Ranjan Maitra via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Just curious, what is the largest amount for which memory chips can currently fit in a USB? 1-2 TB? Or far less?
The samsung external usb ssd I like max out a 4TB.
Barry
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On 6 Nov 2024, at 22:32, Roger Heflin rogerheflin@gmail.com wrote:
That is a 2.5" right? I think the one RanJan has is a 16tb usb key.
What I am referring to is a USB-3 external SSD its 85 x 57 x 8.0mm See https://www.samsung.com/uk/memory-storage/portable-ssd/portable-ssd-t7-1tb-g...
I have not looked at large internal SSD storage, only personally have 2TB at the moment. As you say I would expect 16TB to be very expensive and aimed at the enterprise market.
Barry