4 p.m.
Canada now allows the Census to be done online. I tried to login and
got the current
version of the browser not supported error. It recommended using
Firefox, Mozilla,
IE, Netscape, or Safari (also mentioning to use JRE > 1.4.x). Funny, I
was using Firefox.
So, next I tried Mozilla Suite, then Seamonkey, then Opera. No good.
BTW, I am running
JRE 1.5.0_06.
Time to call the help line (going to try to submit a bug report to the
poor call centre =).
Well, big lineup, I stayed on the line since I wasn't going anywhere.
It did recommend
me to phone back at non peak hours and gave some times. 1st problem, it
didn't give time
zones with the times. Canada has enough timezones that that can be
slight problem.
Staying on the line ...
After what seemed to be 30 mins, I got to speak to a rep. I mentioned
my browser wasn't
supported, he said I could download Firefox, etc. I said I tried that.
Asked what my OS
was. Linux. There followed some Ums and Ahs. Paper shuffling. Well
it supports
Windows and and and Um. NEways, I held for a moment while he found the
supported
OS lists. When he got back, he started asking about browsers, so I
listed what I had tried
and my Java version. Again the question what OS? Linux - Fedora Core
5. Oh, that's the
problem. It supports the majority of Windows version and Mac. Okay,
thanks.
What could have saved me a heap of time? Well, the browser detection
could have used
some novice JavaScript to detect my OS version and say NAE, you aren't
supported.
Instead there's code to say your browser isn't supported so go download
a supported browser
which is the very one you are using right now.
What is the point of advising people to use multi-platform browsers and
basing it on Java
which is also multi-platform, yet only have it work with Windows and
Mac? Why has
every other Gov't Ca. website I have been to work with Firefox and
Mozilla?
The Census is to find out who I am, and put me in the Stats.
Thankfully, when I finish
filling out my paper Census, I will be able to fill in Comments section,
submit some
bug reports and give them a freebee stat that isn't in the
questionnaire: I am one of the
Canadians whom doesn't have Mac or Windows on his computer.
Stephen Mirowski
7:23 p.m.
Stephen Mirowski <spmirowski <at> shaw.ca> writes:
was. Linux. There followed some Ums and Ahs. Paper shuffling.
Well
it supports Windows and and and Um.
Can't you just fake the UA? That's where they probably get the OS info from,
unless they're portscanning you or something.
Kevin Kofler
1:46 p.m.
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Stephen Mirowski <spmirowski <at> shaw.ca> writes:
>was. Linux. There followed some Ums and Ahs. Paper shuffling. Well
>it supports Windows and and and Um.
>
>
NewsForge posted an article on this today. Apparently Revenue Canada and
ePass are affected too.
Even worse with ePass because Mozilla based aren't even recommended for
Windows.
http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/06/05/04/233250.shtml
I sent my Vancouver MP an email a few mins ago with some details about
the situation. She works
down the street from where I live, if we don't get progress, I can
always drop in =)
Stephen
8:06 a.m.
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 14:00:58 -0700,
Stephen Mirowski <spmirowski(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
What could have saved me a heap of time? Well, the browser detection
could have used
some novice JavaScript to detect my OS version and say NAE, you aren't
supported.
Instead there's code to say your browser isn't supported so go download
a supported browser
which is the very one you are using right now.
What would have saved even more time is using a standard html 4.01 compliant
form and not used any java or javascript so that the page would just work.
What the heck are they using java for anyway?
10:37 a.m.
On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 14:00 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
Canada now allows the Census to be done online. I tried to login and
got the current
version of the browser not supported error. It recommended using
Firefox, Mozilla,
IE, Netscape, or Safari (also mentioning to use JRE > 1.4.x). Funny, I
was using Firefox.
So, next I tried Mozilla Suite, then Seamonkey, then Opera. No good.
BTW, I am running
JRE 1.5.0_06.
I did some forensic analysis after Googling for the website.
They check for browser spoofing and the specifically only support
browser that match these strings :
Win (netscape|firefox|Microsoft)
Mac (safari)
It appears they do not even support Netscape, Firefox or Explorer on
Macs.
If you want to check the script yourself :
wget http://www50.statcan.ca/census2006/js/browserCheck.js
The reason for what they support appears to be :
"// Check if the browser version is supported by Entrust TruePass"
But if you check Entrusts web site they do support Linux.
http://www.entrust.com/internet-security-software/specs.htm
Write your MP and tell them of your displeasure.
Time to call the help line (going to try to submit a bug report to
the
poor call centre =).
Well, big lineup, I stayed on the line since I wasn't going anywhere.
It did recommend
me to phone back at non peak hours and gave some times. 1st problem, it
didn't give time
zones with the times. Canada has enough timezones that that can be
slight problem.
Staying on the line ...
After what seemed to be 30 mins, I got to speak to a rep. I mentioned
my browser wasn't
supported, he said I could download Firefox, etc. I said I tried that.
Asked what my OS
was. Linux. There followed some Ums and Ahs. Paper shuffling. Well
it supports
Windows and and and Um. NEways, I held for a moment while he found the
supported
OS lists. When he got back, he started asking about browsers, so I
listed what I had tried
and my Java version. Again the question what OS? Linux - Fedora Core
5. Oh, that's the
problem. It supports the majority of Windows version and Mac. Okay,
thanks.
It is actually their script is not allowing you, but not for any
compatibility reasons.
What could have saved me a heap of time? Well, the browser detection
could have used
some novice JavaScript to detect my OS version and say NAE, you aren't
supported.
Instead there's code to say your browser isn't supported so go download
a supported browser
which is the very one you are using right now.
What is the point of advising people to use multi-platform browsers and
basing it on Java
which is also multi-platform, yet only have it work with Windows and
Mac? Why has
every other Gov't Ca. website I have been to work with Firefox and
Mozilla?
Because they are not using this script to deny you access.
The Census is to find out who I am, and put me in the Stats.
Thankfully, when I finish
filling out my paper Census, I will be able to fill in Comments section,
submit some
bug reports and give them a freebee stat that isn't in the
questionnaire: I am one of the
Canadians whom doesn't have Mac or Windows on his computer.
Stephen Mirowski
How can you be a Canadian if you don't use Windows or a Mac?
:^p
11:31 a.m.
Guy Fraser wrote:
On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 14:00 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
>Stephen Mirowski
How can you be a Canadian if you don't use Windows or a Mac? :^p
I guess I won't be able to check Canadian off on my census form anymore
for nationality. :( I wonder if they will have a none box?
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11:20 a.m.
Guy Fraser wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 14:00 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
>
>>Stephen Mirowski
>
> How can you be a Canadian if you don't use Windows or a Mac? :^p
>
>
I guess I won't be able to check Canadian off on my census form anymore
for nationality. :( I wonder if they will have a none box?
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I tried the site using Firefox with no luck. So then I tried the site
using Konqueror. I changed the browser identification to explorer 6.0 on
Windows XP - Tools, change browser identification. Doing this I was able
to get into the site.
The site is running on a Windows server. This was apparent from a number
of timeouts that put up IIS's default message of contact microsoft. The
system is also very slow.
There is no excuse for developing such a poor site. Not just the
restrictions, but also the poor performance.
I'm going to send them an e-mail.
Tim Brier.
1:58 p.m.
briert(a)cepu.ca wrote:
>Guy Fraser wrote:
>
The site is running on a Windows server. This was apparent from a number
of timeouts that put up IIS's default message of contact microsoft. The
system is also very slow.
There is no excuse for developing such a poor site. Not just the
restrictions, but also the poor performance.
I'm going to send them an e-mail.
Tim Brier.
Hey, it is the government. They have fallen into the MS is the best
trap. :)
BTW, thanks for the tip.
I would rather send in the snail mail version with a nice comment page
attached. This will have a double impact as they now have to pay
someone to enter the data that they wanted me to enter.
--
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2:39 p.m.
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Robin Laing wrote:
briert(a)cepu.ca wrote:
> > Guy Fraser wrote:
> >
>
> The site is running on a Windows server. This was apparent from a number
> of timeouts that put up IIS's default message of contact microsoft. The
> system is also very slow.
>
> There is no excuse for developing such a poor site. Not just the
> restrictions, but also the poor performance.
>
> I'm going to send them an e-mail.
>
> Tim Brier.
>
Hey, it is the government. They have fallen into the MS is the best
trap. :)
BTW, thanks for the tip.
I would rather send in the snail mail version with a nice comment
page attached. This will have a double impact as they now have to
pay someone to enter the data that they wanted me to enter.
it's not like i want to drag this thread out any longer, but i'm
pretty sure you can see the problem here:
http://www50.statcan.ca/census2006/js/browserCheck.js
particularly the last few lines of the function
"checkForSupportedBrowserVersion", which reads as follows:
}
// The OS is not MacOS (and not Microsoft Windows)
else {
// The OS is not supported
return false;
}
}
rday
2:41 p.m.
Robin Laing wrote:
Hey, it is the government. They have fallen into the MS is the best
trap. :)
BTW, thanks for the tip.
I would rather send in the snail mail version with a nice comment page
attached. This will have a double impact as they now have to pay
someone to enter the data that they wanted me to enter.
Sure, they are paying ppl to enter stuff, but that pay is coming from my
taxes =(
Stephen
3:19 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 12:20 -0400, briert(a)cepu.ca wrote:
> Guy Fraser wrote:
>> On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 14:00 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
>>
>>>Stephen Mirowski
>>
>> How can you be a Canadian if you don't use Windows or a Mac? :^p
>>
>>
>
> I guess I won't be able to check Canadian off on my census form anymore
> for nationality. :( I wonder if they will have a none box?
>
> --
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>
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I tried the site using Firefox with no luck. So then I tried the site
using Konqueror. I changed the browser identification to explorer 6.0 on
Windows XP - Tools, change browser identification. Doing this I was able
to get into the site.
The site is running on a Windows server. This was apparent from a number
of timeouts that put up IIS's default message of contact microsoft. The
system is also very slow.
There is no excuse for developing such a poor site. Not just the
restrictions, but also the poor performance.
What do you expect. The government will not hire quality technical
staff, since they have quotas and have had special interest groups
to satisfy. Jobs certainly do not go to the best qualified people.
I applied a few times over the last couple decades and each time
was told I would not qualify because I am not in a demographic that
is required to fill the position. Apparently discrimination is
allowed if you are an educated experienced white male with no
visible disability. It also seems that the people who do meet the
demographic conditions, know they can't be fired so are allowed to
do a crummy job and get away with it.
I'm going to send them an e-mail.
Tim Brier.
If I get one in the mail, I'll comment as well.
6:23 p.m.
Guy Fraser wrote:
What do you expect. The government will not hire quality technical
staff, since they have quotas and have had special interest groups
to satisfy. Jobs certainly do not go to the best qualified people.
I applied a few times over the last couple decades and each time
was told I would not qualify because I am not in a demographic that
is required to fill the position. Apparently discrimination is
allowed if you are an educated experienced white male with no
visible disability. It also seems that the people who do meet the
demographic conditions, know they can't be fired so are allowed to
do a crummy job and get away with it.
Eh? You don't support Affirmative Action (or whatever it is they
call it Up North)?
You *RACIST*!
Or as Diane Raggsdale used to shout repeatedly in the Dallas,
Texas City Council Meetings...
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
...
about 20 to 30 times consecutively, pausing only for breath.
Mike
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12:55 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 18:23 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
Guy Fraser wrote:
>
> What do you expect. The government will not hire quality technical
> staff, since they have quotas and have had special interest groups
> to satisfy. Jobs certainly do not go to the best qualified people.
> I applied a few times over the last couple decades and each time
> was told I would not qualify because I am not in a demographic that
> is required to fill the position. Apparently discrimination is
> allowed if you are an educated experienced white male with no
> visible disability. It also seems that the people who do meet the
> demographic conditions, know they can't be fired so are allowed to
> do a crummy job and get away with it.
Eh? You don't support Affirmative Action (or whatever it is they
call it Up North)?
You *RACIST*!
Or as Diane Raggsdale used to shout repeatedly in the Dallas,
Texas City Council Meetings...
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
...
about 20 to 30 times consecutively, pausing only for breath.
I hope you are being sarcastic.
It probably is called Affirmative Action here in Canada. I am in
fact being discriminated on by race and sex. I graduated from
college with honours, after two years of work experience I was
told I need not submit an application, because there were no
openings for young white males. I submitted the application,
and never got a response. I tried again a couple more times over
the last couple decades, but was more eloquently told I would
not qualify for reasons other than qualifications. I met a guy
who got one of the jobs last year when he volunteered at a music
festival where I was also volunteering. I did not feel any better,
about the selection process after talking with him and seeing the
job he did as a volunteer setting up his part of the network. I
was glad that, although he spent a lot of time working during the
festival, I did not have any problems, and was able to enjoy my
time. All I ended up having to do was setup, testing and tear
down, but I still checked in a few times to make sure everything
was OK.
I don't judge people by how they look, but by their qualifications.
We have hired technical staff from many demographic groups, the
only things we require are qualifications, and the ability to
speak clearly understandable English if customer interaction is
a required part of the job.
2:01 p.m.
Guy Fraser wrote:
Sorry not to reply in so long. I've been off the net.
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 18:23 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>Guy Fraser wrote:
>
>>What do you expect. The government will not hire quality technical
>>staff, since they have quotas and have had special interest groups
>>to satisfy. Jobs certainly do not go to the best qualified people.
>>I applied a few times over the last couple decades and each time
>>was told I would not qualify because I am not in a demographic that
>>is required to fill the position. Apparently discrimination is
>>allowed if you are an educated experienced white male with no
>>visible disability. It also seems that the people who do meet the
>>demographic conditions, know they can't be fired so are allowed to
>>do a crummy job and get away with it.
>
>Eh? You don't support Affirmative Action (or whatever it is they
>call it Up North)?
>
>You *RACIST*!
>
>Or as Diane Raggsdale used to shout repeatedly in the Dallas,
>Texas City Council Meetings...
>
>"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
>"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
>"Yooooouuuu........... are a RACISSSSSSS"
>...
>
>about 20 to 30 times consecutively, pausing only for breath.
>
I hope you are being sarcastic.
I am. Definitely. I believe that "affirmative action" has done
more to set back blacks from getting the social advancement
they deserve than any other single thing government has done
since 1964 or so.
I belive that Diane Raggsdale was one of the most racist people
on the face of the Earth, the "reverend" Jesse Jackson's statement
that it is "impossible for a black man to be a racist" notwithstanding.
But the quote is accurate.
It probably is called Affirmative Action here in Canada. I am in
fact being discriminated on by race and sex. I graduated from
Down here they call it "reverse discrimination", which is a misnomer
at least. It's just plain discrimination based on race. Discrimination
based on sex may or may not make sense. There are some jobs which
women who may become pregnant just should not do.
college with honours, after two years of work experience I was
told I need not submit an application, because there were no
openings for young white males. I submitted the application,
Yep. It's governmental sponsored racism, just like the Jim Crow
laws were.
and never got a response. I tried again a couple more times over
the last couple decades, but was more eloquently told I would
not qualify for reasons other than qualifications. I met a guy
who got one of the jobs last year when he volunteered at a music
festival where I was also volunteering. I did not feel any better,
about the selection process after talking with him and seeing the
job he did as a volunteer setting up his part of the network. I
was glad that, although he spent a lot of time working during the
festival, I did not have any problems, and was able to enjoy my
time. All I ended up having to do was setup, testing and tear
down, but I still checked in a few times to make sure everything
was OK.
I don't judge people by how they look, but by their qualifications.
We have hired technical staff from many demographic groups, the
only things we require are qualifications, and the ability to
speak clearly understandable English if customer interaction is
a required part of the job.
Makes too much sense.
As ex-president Reagan said: "The most frightening words in
the English language are 'Hi, I'm from the government, and
I'm here to help you.'"
Mike
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3:02 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 10:31 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
Guy Fraser wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-02-05 at 14:00 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
>
>>Stephen Mirowski
>
> How can you be a Canadian if you don't use Windows or a Mac? :^p
>
>
I guess I won't be able to check Canadian off on my census form anymore
for nationality. :( I wonder if they will have a none box?
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I am considering whether I should put anti-luddite or neo-troglodyte
somewhere, maybe under political party or religion. ;^)
8:27 p.m.
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 09:37 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
I did some forensic analysis after Googling for the website.
They check for browser spoofing and the specifically only support
browser that match these strings :
Win (netscape|firefox|Microsoft)
Mac (safari)
It appears they do not even support Netscape, Firefox or Explorer on
Macs.
Ah crap. I was really looking forward to filling out the census online.
Now I'm going to have to torture myself and fire up WinME in VMware.
Regards,
Ranbir
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Linux 2.6.16-1.2096_FC4 i686 GNU/Linux
21:25:05 up 14:54, 3 users, load average: 0.87, 0.61, 0.38
9:12 a.m.
Well, since I'll be in the same boat, I'm not sure if I should send in
the paper version or use XP in vmware on my laptop.
Another thing I'm annoyed with is I can't watch the new James Bond
trailer unless I have windows. :(
On 5/3/06, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu <m3freak(a)rogers.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 09:37 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
> I did some forensic analysis after Googling for the website.
>
> They check for browser spoofing and the specifically only support
> browser that match these strings :
>
> Win (netscape|firefox|Microsoft)
>
> Mac (safari)
>
> It appears they do not even support Netscape, Firefox or Explorer on
> Macs.
Ah crap. I was really looking forward to filling out the census online.
Now I'm going to have to torture myself and fire up WinME in VMware.
Regards,
Ranbir
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1:42 p.m.
Thom Paine wrote:
Well, since I'll be in the same boat, I'm not sure if I
should send in
the paper version or use XP in vmware on my laptop.
Another thing I'm annoyed with is I can't watch the new James Bond
trailer unless I have windows. :(
Why not? I saw the French one on linux. It'll be on the Apple site
soon, then
all you need is xine, or gxine or MPlayer.
Stephen
10:06 a.m.
Howdy,
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 21:27 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 09:37 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
> I did some forensic analysis after Googling for the website.
>
> They check for browser spoofing and the specifically only support
> browser that match these strings :
>
> Win (netscape|firefox|Microsoft)
>
> Mac (safari)
>
> It appears they do not even support Netscape, Firefox or Explorer on
> Macs.
Ah crap. I was really looking forward to filling out the census online.
Now I'm going to have to torture myself and fire up WinME in VMware.
FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3 for Linux
by;
1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it to
"Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in about:config
Note, the default setting is 2.
3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
As always, YMMV.
Regards,
Regards to you also :-))
Ranbir
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
5:09 p.m.
taharka wrote:
Howdy,
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 21:27 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote:
>On Wed, 2006-03-05 at 09:37 -0600, Guy Fraser wrote:
>
>>I did some forensic analysis after Googling for the website.
>>
>>They check for browser spoofing and the specifically only support
>>browser that match these strings :
>>
>>Win (netscape|firefox|Microsoft)
>>
>>Mac (safari)
>>
>>It appears they do not even support Netscape, Firefox or Explorer on
>>Macs.
>
>Ah crap. I was really looking forward to filling out the census online.
>Now I'm going to have to torture myself and fire up WinME in VMware.
FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3 for Linux
by;
1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it to
"Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in about:config
Note, the default setting is 2.
3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
As always, YMMV.
>Regards,
Regards to you also :-))
>Ranbir
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
But is there a place at the end to complain and to rub it in their face
that Linux will work even if they don't want it to?
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3:59 a.m.
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 16:09 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
But is there a place at the end to complain and to rub it in their
face that Linux will work even if they don't want it to?
Well, you could do what I once did: Told my bank I had to hack the
website pages so I could use the site with my web browser. Of course
they didn't understand what that really meant. ;-)
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11:39 a.m.
Andrew Overholt wrote:
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 16:09 -0600, Robin Laing wrote:
>But is there a place at the end to complain and to rub it in their face
>that Linux will work even if they don't want it to?
I wrote my complaints on the final page of the written form.
Andrew
I was asking about the online form as there is a work around. But I
think I will just use the written form as protest. More effect.
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1:43 p.m.
taharka wrote:
FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3 for Linux
by;
1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it to
"Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in about:config
Note, the default setting is 2.
3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
As always, YMMV.
That's too much work for simple access to a gov't site. esp. since the
certificates are
available for Windows Firefox and Linux Firefox.
Stephen
2:16 p.m.
How do,
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 11:43 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
taharka wrote:
>
>FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3 for Linux
>by;
>
>1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it to
> "Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
>
>2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in about:config
> Note, the default setting is 2.
>
>3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
>
>As always, YMMV.
>
That's too much work for simple access to a gov't site. esp. since the
certificates are
available for Windows Firefox and Linux Firefox.
I'd say, it depends on how bad you want to access that site ;-) I'm not
a Canadian citizen but wanted to access it bad enough. Only took me ~30
secs., as my Firefox is already configured for such situations. If I
were a Canadian citizen, I'd contact the HNIC at Xandros (a Canadian
based Linux distro mind you) & get their opinion on not being able to
access a Canadian gov't site with their operating system. Sound like a
plan to you? BTW, I believe "Peanut Linux" is also a Canadian distro ;-)
Stephen
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
8:03 p.m.
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 15:16 -0400, taharka wrote:
How do,
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 11:43 -0700, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
> taharka wrote:
>
> >
> >FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3 for Linux
> >by;
> >
> >1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it
to
> > "Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
> >
> >2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in
about:config
> > Note, the default setting is 2.
> >
> >3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
> >
> >As always, YMMV.
> >
> That's too much work for simple access to a gov't site. esp. since the
> certificates are
> available for Windows Firefox and Linux Firefox.
The government of Canada does not seem to care that other browsers and
OS's are out there.
After my experience a few years ago efiling my taxes with revenue Canada
I will not use a Federal Government web site, if for some reason your
configuration does not meet their preconceived rules you are out of
luck. I am still chasing a tax refund from 2002.
The simple solution in this case is use the paper process and any
question you don't think they really need to know the answer give them
any answer such to one question of how many bathrooms in my house. A
number like 95 works. About all you really need to give them is your
name and date of birth.
3:57 p.m.
New subject: OT: Canadian Census 2006 [solved?]
taharka wrote:
FWIW, I'm able to access the site with Firefox version 1.5.0.3
for Linux
by;
1.) Using the extension, "User Agent Switcher 0.6.8" & setting it to
"Internet Explorer 6 (Windows XP)".
2.) Setting "network.http.sendRefererHeader" to 0 (zero) in about:config
Note, the default setting is 2.
3.) Enabling cookies/java script. I usually keep these two disabled ;-)
As always, YMMV
Interesting new development. I am now able to use Linux/Firefox to
get
into the Census. Without hacking the browser to do it. Currently doing,
will finish the email after I am done to tell you how it turned out.
- If you get the "unresponsive script," just click continue.
The comments text area is limited. On paper I would have written
smaller to get more in. I ended up using symbols "&" and dropping some
apostrophes. I didn't get to say all, but I ended saying Support Linux pls!
What was different about my setup from last time.
- First attempt: FC5, FC5 based Firefox/Seamonkey/Mozilla and official
Opera, official Java
- This attempt: FC4 and official Firefox, official Java
Did my email to my MP (who is running in the leadership race for the
Liberals) make the difference? Maybe they got a lot of phone calls? Or
was it that I was using an official build of Firefox instead of a distro
compiled RPM?
Well, for anyone who hasn't submitted their paper media and wants to
give it a try, I would greatly appreciate feedback on your adventures.
Tomorrow, or the next day I will send and update to my MP and let her
know of the status change.
Thanks,
Stephen Mirowski
4:13 p.m.
New subject: OT: Canadian Census 2006 [solved?]
On Sat, 13 May 2006, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
Interesting new development. I am now able to use Linux/Firefox to
get into the Census. Without hacking the browser to do it.
Currently doing, will finish the email after I am done to tell you
how it turned out.
the browser check script has been officially "fixed" to handle linux.
rday
12:38 a.m.
New subject: OT: Canadian Census 2006 [solved?]
On Sat, 2006-13-05 at 17:13 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Sat, 13 May 2006, Stephen Mirowski wrote:
> Interesting new development. I am now able to use Linux/Firefox to
> get into the Census. Without hacking the browser to do it.
> Currently doing, will finish the email after I am done to tell you
> how it turned out.
the browser check script has been officially "fixed" to handle linux.
Simply brilliant. I'm amazed they actually fixed it. Makes me wonder
why it was broken in the first place, but good to see it solved.
Thanks for the info.
Regards,
Ranbir
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