I have a ThinkPad Yoga 11e running Fedora. A couple of months or so prior to the Fedora 27 release, some updates to Fedora 26 introduced some problems. They are thus:
The touchpad stopped working. The touch screen still works fine; but an update rendered the touchpad unresponsive.
Restart stopped working. The machine must be manually turned off and turned back on for any update process that incorporates a restart.
Neither of these problems was present in Fedora 26 at its initial release; they were both introduced by updates.
I have updated the machine to Fedora 27; unfortunately, both problems persist.
I would be happy to file bugs for these issues; but I am uncertain what component they should be filed against. Please advise.
Hello good morning,
Assuming these things happen in Gnome Shell with Wayland, I would suggest to switch to X.org in GDM to see if they persist. If things behave normally, then it's a bug in Wayland, About where to file the bugs... It should be Gnome, Wayland and/or GPointing Device Settings. The first one should be filed in Red Hat Bugzilla (for Fedora) but the second one can be either RH or Gnome Bugzilla. Please, let us know if you need anything else.
Hope this helps, Silvia
On 18 November 2017 at 00:16, Braden McDaniel braden@endoframe.com wrote:
I have a ThinkPad Yoga 11e running Fedora. A couple of months or so prior to the Fedora 27 release, some updates to Fedora 26 introduced some problems. They are thus:
The touchpad stopped working. The touch screen still works fine; but an update rendered the touchpad unresponsive.
Restart stopped working. The machine must be manually turned off and turned back on for any update process that incorporates a restart.
Neither of these problems was present in Fedora 26 at its initial release; they were both introduced by updates.
I have updated the machine to Fedora 27; unfortunately, both problems persist.
I would be happy to file bugs for these issues; but I am uncertain what component they should be filed against. Please advise.
-- Braden McDaniel braden@endoframe.com
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On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Silvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
Hello good morning,
Assuming these things happen in Gnome Shell with Wayland, I would suggest to switch to X.org in GDM to see if they persist. If things behave normally, then it's a bug in Wayland, About where to file the bugs... It should be Gnome, Wayland and/or GPointing Device Settings. The first one should be filed in Red Hat Bugzilla (for Fedora) but the second one can be either RH or Gnome Bugzilla. Please, let us know if you need anything else.
Thank you.
Are you suggesting that an update to Fedora 26 changed the configuration to use Wayland rather than X.org?
These problems were not present in my initial installation of Fedora 26 and were introduced by updates there. Would an installation of (or upgrade to) Fedora 26 not have been configured to use Wayland from the outset?
I will try X.org to see if that improves the situation; but, unless an F26 update changed things to use Wayland, I don’t see how that gets closer to isolating the problem (and which component(s) has(have) regressed).
On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Silvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
Hello good morning,
Assuming these things happen in Gnome Shell with Wayland, I would suggest to switch to X.org in GDM to see if they persist. If things behave normally, then it's a bug in Wayland, About where to file the bugs... It should be Gnome, Wayland and/or GPointing Device Settings. The first one should be filed in Red Hat Bugzilla (for Fedora) but the second one can be either RH or Gnome Bugzilla. Please, let us know if you need anything else.
Uncommenting the line “WaylandEnable=false” in /etc/gdm/custom.conf had no impact on either problem.
And while it seems entirely possible to me that the touchpad issue is related to Wayland, that seems less likely for the problem rebooting.
No. I meant, choosing an X session instead of a Wayland session to see if the problems with your touchpad persist.
On 18 November 2017 at 17:49, Braden McDaniel braden@endoframe.com wrote:
On Nov 18, 2017, at 5:05 AM, Silvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
Hello good morning,
Assuming these things happen in Gnome Shell with Wayland, I would
suggest to switch to X.org in GDM to see if they persist. If things behave normally, then it's a bug in Wayland,
About where to file the bugs... It should be Gnome, Wayland and/or
GPointing Device Settings. The first one should be filed in Red Hat Bugzilla (for Fedora) but the second one can be either RH or Gnome Bugzilla.
Please, let us know if you need anything else.
Uncommenting the line “WaylandEnable=false” in /etc/gdm/custom.conf had no impact on either problem.
And while it seems entirely possible to me that the touchpad issue is related to Wayland, that seems less likely for the problem rebooting.
-- Braden McDaniel braden@endoframe.com
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On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Silvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
No. I meant, choosing an X session instead of a Wayland session to see if the problems with your touchpad persist. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Braden,
Folks who are familiar with this feature may take it for granted, but if you haven't seen how to do it, you won't realize you can even select a different session at the login screen. But at the normal login screen, after typing in your login name, there's a small widget that you can click on next to the "Sign in" button to pull up a list of possible window sessions. One of them is "Gnome on Xorg, eg:
https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2016/03/login.png
Silvia is recommending you login and select the "Gnome on Xorg" session and that will use the Gnome on top of X11. If you already knew this, just ignore this .... :-)
Thanks, Ben
Oh, thank you Ben. You explained it far better than myself.
On 19 November 2017 at 03:11, Ben bmatteso@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Silvia Sánchez lailahfsf@gmail.com wrote:
No. I meant, choosing an X session instead of a Wayland session to see if the problems with your touchpad persist. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Braden,
Folks who are familiar with this feature may take it for granted, but if you haven't seen how to do it, you won't realize you can even select a different session at the login screen. But at the normal login screen, after typing in your login name, there's a small widget that you can click on next to the "Sign in" button to pull up a list of possible window sessions. One of them is "Gnome on Xorg, eg:
https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2016/03/login.png
Silvia is recommending you login and select the "Gnome on Xorg" session and that will use the Gnome on top of X11. If you already knew this, just ignore this .... :-)
Thanks, Ben
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On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Ben bmatteso@gmail.com wrote:
Folks who are familiar with this feature may take it for granted, but if you haven't seen how to do it, you won't realize you can even select a different session at the login screen. But at the normal login screen, after typing in your login name, there's a small widget that you can click on next to the "Sign in" button to pull up a list of possible window sessions. One of them is "Gnome on Xorg, eg:
https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2016/03/login.png
Silvia is recommending you login and select the "Gnome on Xorg" session and that will use the Gnome on top of X11. If you already knew this, just ignore this .... :-)
Thank you. That is helpful.
Unfortunately, it is helpful in establishing that I don’t see this at all.
This machine has a single user account and that account does not use a password. In this scenario, there is no “Sign In” button.
Is the widget you’re referring to positioned elsewhere in this use case?
On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Braden McDaniel braden@endoframe.com wrote:
On Nov 18, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Ben bmatteso@gmail.com wrote:
Folks who are familiar with this feature may take it for granted, but if
you haven't seen how to do it, you won't realize you can even select a different session at the login screen. But at the normal login screen, after typing in your login name, there's a small widget that you can click on next to the "Sign in" button to pull up a list of possible window sessions. One of them is "Gnome on Xorg, eg:
https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/files/2016/03/login.png
Silvia is recommending you login and select the "Gnome on Xorg" session
and that will use the Gnome on top of X11. If you already knew this, just ignore this .... :-)
Thank you. That is helpful.
Unfortunately, it is helpful in establishing that I don’t see this at all.
This machine has a single user account and that account does not use a password. In this scenario, there is no “Sign In” button.
Is the widget you’re referring to positioned elsewhere in this use case?
In that case, I believe you were right all along; uncommenting "WaylandEnable=false" in custom.conf was the right way to do this for automatic login. And I'm afraid I don't how to debug the touchpad issue if it's failing under both wayland and X.
Ben
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