Gtk emacs-style key bindings

Hello Folks,

It seems that there is something missing in
FC4/Gnome2.10. My favorite: gtk emacs-style
keybindings.

The part of the Keyboard Shortcuts that enabled this
is missing, and the gtk-key-theme-name="Emacs" in
~/.gtkrc-2.0 doesn't seem to work.

Has this feature been removed from FC4/Gnome2.10?! And
if not, how do I enable this?

Thank You,
Mike

P.S. The gnome documentation in Yelp still makes
reference to this feature!! :|

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

[e-mail] wrote:
> It seems that there is something missing in
> FC4/Gnome2.10. My favorite: gtk emacs-style
> keybindings.

This has actually been changed for a while...
> The part of the Keyboard Shortcuts that enabled this
> is missing, and the gtk-key-theme-name="Emacs" in
> ~/.gtkrc-2.0 doesn't seem to work.

I believe that is now obsolete.
> Has this feature been removed from FC4/Gnome2.10?! And
> if not, how do I enable this?

In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to "Emacs".
You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.

Jens

[Globe Trotter]

--- Jens Petersen  wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > It seems that there is something missing in
> > FC4/Gnome2.10. My favorite: gtk emacs-style
> > keybindings.
>
> This has actually been changed for a while...
> > The part of the Keyboard Shortcuts that enabled this
> > is missing, and the gtk-key-theme-name="Emacs" in
> > ~/.gtkrc-2.0 doesn't seem to work.
>
> I believe that is now obsolete.
> > Has this feature been removed from FC4/Gnome2.10?! And
> > if not, how do I enable this?
>
> In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to
> "Emacs".
> You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.
>
> Jens

Is this gnome-specific or would such a thing be also needed for applications
such as syplpheed-claws?

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[Pete Toscano]

Jens Petersen wrote:
> [e-mail] wrote:
> > It seems that there is something missing in
> > FC4/Gnome2.10. My favorite: gtk emacs-style
> > keybindings.
>
> This has actually been changed for a while...

I think it changed back in FC3, when I noticed it and asked the same
question.  :)
> In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to "Emacs".
> You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.

Indeed, this works perfectly for me.

There used to be a way to set this in the preferences, but it was taken
away.  I guess those of us who like consistent key bindings are just
trouble-makers.  ;)

pete

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

Globe Trotter wrote:
> > In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to
> > "Emacs".  You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.
>
> Is this gnome-specific [...]?

My understanding is that it is gtk specific.

-Jens

[Jens-Ulrik Petersen]

Pete Toscano wrote:
> There used to be a way to set this in the preferences, but it was taken
> away.  I guess those of us who like consistent key bindings are just
> trouble-makers.  ;)

Right.  I believe it was removed upstream intentionally on the basis
that it only confuses beginners, and power users would be able
to find the (undocumented?) gconf setting...

Jens

[Globe Trotter]

--- Jens Petersen  wrote:
> Globe Trotter wrote:
> > > In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to
> > > "Emacs".  You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.

By the way, I don't have an interface directory. However, I have a %gconf.xml
file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome however and it is empty. Should I edit this?
What exactly do I put in there?
> > Is this gnome-specific [...]?
>
> My understanding is that it is gtk specific.

So, regardless of everything else, changing it here should work for all gtk-2
programs?

Many thanks and best wishes!

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[Globe Trotter]

--- Globe Trotter  wrote:
> --- Jens Petersen  wrote:
> > Globe Trotter wrote:
> > > > In "~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml", set gtk_key_theme to
> > > > "Emacs".  You may prefer to edit with gconf-editor.
>
> By the way, I don't have an interface directory. However, I have a %gconf.xml
> file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome however and it is empty. Should I edit this?
> What exactly do I put in there?
> > > Is this gnome-specific [...]?
> >
> > My understanding is that it is gtk specific.
>
> So, regardless of everything else, changing it here should work for all gtk-2
> programs?

I guess my real question is what do I do if I do not have gnone running (I use
fvwm). Is it still possible using the above to have Emacs-keybindings for GTK-2
applications (such as sylpheed, as well, as is my understanding, firefox)? If
not, any suggestions as to which file needs to be modified, updated?

Many thanks!
> Many thanks and best wishes!
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[Pete Toscano]

Globe Trotter wrote:
> > By the way, I don't have an interface directory. However, I have a %gconf.xml
> > file in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome however and it is empty. Should I edit this?
> > What exactly do I put in there?

$ cat .gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<gconf>
        <entry name="gtk_key_theme" mtime="1118849227" type="string">
                <stringvalue>Emacs</stringvalue>
        </entry>
</gconf>

I'm guessing that creating the directory and editing that file might do
it, although you might have to kill and restart /usr/libexec/gconfd-2.

pete