On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040203@freenet.de wrote:
Check this how this list's archive: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html
You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your postings start a new thread, i.e. replies of yours do not appear in the thread you are replying to.
Well thanks for posting this link. As a home user, I really don't know why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug?
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:41:09 +0530, AP wrote:
As a home user, I really don't know why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug?
Yes, that's very likely. Which browser is it?
On 11/28/2013 11:30 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:41:09 +0530, AP wrote:
As a home user, I really don't know why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug?
Yes, that's very likely. Which browser is it?
it really does not matter when trolling.
if you want to see more thread breaking, continue responding to troll.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 09:41:09PM +0530, AP wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Ralf Corsepius rc040203@freenet.de wrote:
Check this how this list's archive: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-November/thread.html
You can clearly see the breakage you are causing: All of your postings start a new thread, i.e. replies of yours do not appear in the thread you are replying to.
Well thanks for posting this link. As a home user, I really don't know why is this happening...! I am myself amazed. What is the remedy then? (Just uses browser to send mails). Is it a browser's bug?
One would normally try a search before asking on a list.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:30:44AM -0600, g wrote:
On 11/28/2013 11:47 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: <>
One would normally try a search before asking on a list.
'ap' is not _normal_. ;=)
I know but he's like heroin. You can't resist just one more hit.
On 11/29/2013 12:19 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:30:44AM -0600, g wrote:
On 11/28/2013 11:47 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: <>
One would normally try a search before asking on a list.
'ap' is not _normal_. ;=)
I know but he's like heroin. You can't resist just one more hit.
so i have heard. ;8_
one thing for sure, a good filter cures abnormal pests.
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, g sent:
one thing for sure, a good filter cures abnormal pests.
But then you forgo the pleasure of the delete key...
On 11/29/2013 05:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, g sent:
one thing for sure, a good filter cures abnormal pests.
But then you forgo the pleasure of the delete key...
not really.
with thunderbird and using a filter to [Mark As Read], + [Delete Message], moves email to 'Trash' folder of my isp account.
beauty of filter, i do not see a "pesticide" filtered email because i have [X] Empty Trash on Exit set for isp account. therefore, because i do close thunderbird every couple days, i never see "pest" emails.
because i filter _all_ incoming emails to "Local Folders", what ever i <delete> under "Local Folders" goes to "Trash" folder under "Local Folders", which i do not have set for auto empty, as i do like to hold deleted emails and manually empty them.
comprendō?
On 11/29/2013 07:02 PM, g wrote:
On 11/29/2013 05:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, g sent:
one thing for sure, a good filter cures abnormal pests.
But then you forgo the pleasure of the delete key...
not really.
with thunderbird and using a filter to [Mark As Read], + [Delete Message], moves email to 'Trash' folder of my isp account.
beauty of filter, i do not see a "pesticide" filtered email because i have [X] Empty Trash on Exit set for isp account. therefore, because i do close thunderbird every couple days, i never see "pest" emails.
because i filter _all_ incoming emails to "Local Folders", what ever i <delete> under "Local Folders" goes to "Trash" folder under "Local Folders", which i do not have set for auto empty, as i do like to hold deleted emails and manually empty them.
comprendō?
I filter a lot of stuff to trash, but over the course of time I have filtered some messages by content--I don't know now what content, but as a result, some _desired_ mail winds up in trash, and I have to go thru and look at the sender names of the highlighted messages in the trash pile. RATS! I wish there was a way of determining what filter caused a given message to be filtered to the trash pile. If anybody knows, please tell me.
--doug
On 11/29/2013 06:26 PM, Doug wrote: <>
I wish there was a way of determining what filter caused a given message to be filtered to the trash pile. If anybody knows, please tell me.
when you open 'message filters', you select isp at top of window where it says "Filters for:".
for each isp you have filters set, you will note at lower right there is a button;
[Filter Log].
selecting it brings up 'filter log' window, where in upper left there is a button;
[ ] Enable the Filter Log
checking it turns on logging so that you will know 'what and why'.
the log is in 'html' and is found in path;
~/.thunderbird/*.default/Mail/ispname/filterlog.html
while in that directory, have a look at msgFilterRules.dat to see what filters look like.
remember, *CYOA*, backup before you play with files.
hth.
On 11/29/2013 7:26 PM, Doug wrote:
On 11/29/2013 07:02 PM, g wrote:
On 11/29/2013 05:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 29 November 2013, g sent:
one thing for sure, a good filter cures abnormal pests.
But then you forgo the pleasure of the delete key...
not really.
with thunderbird and using a filter to [Mark As Read], + [Delete Message], moves email to 'Trash' folder of my isp account.
beauty of filter, i do not see a "pesticide" filtered email because i have [X] Empty Trash on Exit set for isp account. therefore, because i do close thunderbird every couple days, i never see "pest" emails.
because i filter _all_ incoming emails to "Local Folders", what ever i <delete> under "Local Folders" goes to "Trash" folder under "Local Folders", which i do not have set for auto empty, as i do like to hold deleted emails and manually empty them.
comprendō?
I filter a lot of stuff to trash, but over the course of time I have filtered some messages by content--I don't know now what content, but as a result, some _desired_ mail winds up in trash, and I have to go thru and look at the sender names of the highlighted messages in the trash pile. RATS! I wish there was a way of determining what filter caused a given message to be filtered to the trash pile. If anybody knows, please tell me.
--doug
One suggestion comes to mind. This will take time. Depends on the number of filters and messages.
Move one of the 'I want you messages' back to the Inbox. Disable all but one filter (the first in the list) and run the filters on the folder. Nothing? Enable the next and run the filters again. Nothing? Repeat. When the message moves and hits the trash the last one is the culprit. At least for *that* message. Try some of the others others.
There is another way but it is a little more difficult and it can break your filter file if you mess up. I'll tell you how if you really want but I recommend the first way as the safest.
On 11/29/2013 06:52 PM, David wrote: <>
One suggestion comes to mind. This will take time. Depends on the
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really want but I recommend the first way as the safest.
that is a lot of trouble that can be circumvented just by running filter logging.
On 11/29/2013 8:03 PM, g wrote:
On 11/29/2013 06:52 PM, David wrote: <>
One suggestion comes to mind. This will take time. Depends on the
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really want but I recommend the first way as the safest.
that is a lot of trouble that can be circumvented just by running filter logging.
Which is true g.
I get in trouble every time I say 'geeks' or Linux Geeks'. :-) But I always try to make my suggestions as simple as possible. Why? I don't know the level of skill of 'Doug' that asked the question. And not to speak poorly of him but it was a simple question which deserves a simple answer.
It is just that I often see 'Linux Geeks' go on and on with really esoteric crap trying their best to help a user and at the same time out 'expert each other' with "Geek stuff' when a user just needs a simple 'do this' answer. I figure if the user wants to know 'why' they will ask.
Think about it. :-)
On 11/29/2013 09:13 PM, David wrote:
On 11/29/2013 8:03 PM, g wrote:
On 11/29/2013 06:52 PM, David wrote: <>
One suggestion comes to mind. This will take time. Depends on the
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really want but I recommend the first way as the safest.
that is a lot of trouble that can be circumvented just by running filter logging.
Which is true g.
I get in trouble every time I say 'geeks' or Linux Geeks'. :-) But I always try to make my suggestions as simple as possible. Why? I don't know the level of skill of 'Doug' that asked the question. And not to speak poorly of him but it was a simple question which deserves a simple answer.
It is just that I often see 'Linux Geeks' go on and on with really esoteric crap trying their best to help a user and at the same time out 'expert each other' with "Geek stuff' when a user just needs a simple 'do this' answer. I figure if the user wants to know 'why' they will ask.
Think about it. :-)
Thanx, guys. I am going to try the logging scheme. I have an awful lot of filters. . . .
--doug
On 11/29/2013 9:23 PM, Doug wrote:
On 11/29/2013 09:13 PM, David wrote:
On 11/29/2013 8:03 PM, g wrote:
On 11/29/2013 06:52 PM, David wrote: <>
One suggestion comes to mind. This will take time. Depends on the
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really want but I recommend the first way as the safest.
that is a lot of trouble that can be circumvented just by running filter logging.
Which is true g.
I get in trouble every time I say 'geeks' or Linux Geeks'. :-) But I always try to make my suggestions as simple as possible. Why? I don't know the level of skill of 'Doug' that asked the question. And not to speak poorly of him but it was a simple question which deserves a simple answer.
It is just that I often see 'Linux Geeks' go on and on with really esoteric crap trying their best to help a user and at the same time out 'expert each other' with "Geek stuff' when a user just needs a simple 'do this' answer. I figure if the user wants to know 'why' they will ask.
Think about it. :-)
Thanx, guys. I am going to try the logging scheme. I have an awful lot of filters. . . .
--doug
Good luck. Not to mean that this won't work. :-) like I said. I don't 'know' you but I do, too often, see people given suggestions above their pay grade.
Let us know how you fair.
On 11/29/2013 08:23 PM, Doug wrote: <>
Thanx, guys. I am going to try the logging scheme. I have an awful lot of filters. . . .
just be sure that you clear them out from time to time, else they will be rather long.
i clean mine at least twice a day.
when i get time, i am going to write a script that will back them up with a time stamp so as to have a history that i can go back thru.
On 29/11/13 21:23, Doug wrote:
On 11/29/2013 09:13 PM, David wrote:
On 11/29/2013 8:03 PM, g wrote:
Thanx, guys. I am going to try the logging scheme. I have an awful lot of filters. . . .
--doug
I have always found this date nearly useless without some detective work since the date/time is never correct! But maybe it will work for Doug?
Bob
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