Dual Boot XP/FC2 Install Problem

[Richard Heldmann]

I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300, with a Seagate Model ST3120026AS SATA
120Gb hard drive.  The controller is an Intel 82801ED Ultra ATA Storage Controller.  I
have repartioned the drive with Partition Magic and formatted the last 20Gb as ext2. 
There are no errors on either partition and the machine boots into XP normally.  Upon
starting the installation with the known geometry,

boot: linux hda=14589,255,63

I get the following error message:
hda: IRQ probe failed
hda: no response
hda:non-IDE drive, CHS=14589,255,63
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
hda Invalid Geometry: 255 Physical heads?
ide-default: hda: Failed to register the driver with ide.c
Kernel panic: ide: default attach failed.

The machine is of course locked up.  
Help appreciated.

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Mi, den 01.09.2004 schrieb Richard Heldmann um 1:36:

>  I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300, with a Seagate
> Model ST3120026AS SATA 120Gb hard drive.
>   The controller is an Intel 82801ED Ultra ATA Storage Controller.  I have repartioned the
> drive with Partition Magic
>  and formatted the last 20Gb as ext2.  There are no errors on either partition and the
> machine boots into XP normally.
>   Upon starting the installation with the known geometry,
>  
>  boot: linux hda=14589,255,63 
Why do you pass it the CHS geometry? Don't.

>  I get the following error message:
>  hda: IRQ probe failed 
Anything curious in the motherboard BIOS set? "PnP OS = no" should be
active. Check other settings too, maybe you improperly force something
like the CHS value with boot command line.

>  hda: no response
>  hda:non-IDE drive, CHS=14589,255,63
>  ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
>  hda Invalid Geometry: 255 Physical heads?
>  ide-default: hda: Failed to register the driver with ide.c
>  Kernel panic: ide: default attach failed.
>  
>  The machine is of course locked up.   
Maybe tips from http://www.fedorafaq.org/fc1/#AlanCox are helpful if
above checks do not help (I don't know your hardware in specific).

Alexander


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Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp 
Serendipity 01:50:42 up 1 day, 23:07, load average: 1.06, 1.15, 1.18

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Mi, den 01.09.2004 schrieb Alexander Dalloz um 1:59:

>  > I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300, with a
> Seagate Model ST3120026AS SATA 120Gb hard drive.
>  >  The controller is an Intel 82801ED Ultra ATA Storage Controller.  I have
> repartioned the drive with Partition Magic
>  > and formatted the last 20Gb as ext2.  There are no errors on either partition and
> the machine boots into XP normally.
>  >  Upon starting the installation with the known geometry,
>  > 
>  > boot: linux hda=14589,255,63
>  
>  Why do you pass it the CHS geometry? Don't. 
oops - maybe too late already :| I did miss your subject along with the
boot details. But are you really hit by the dual boot problem? Do you
just want to prevent? The errors in your mail seem to indicate a very
different problem.

Alexander


-- 
Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp 
Serendipity 02:04:22 up 1 day, 23:21, load average: 1.71, 1.32, 1.22

[Richard Heldmann]

>  > I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300, with a
> Seagate 
>  > Model ST3120026AS SATA 120Gb hard drive.
>  >  The controller is an Intel 82801ED Ultra ATA Storage Controller.  I 
>  > have repartioned the drive with Partition Magic
>  > and formatted the last 20Gb as ext2.  There are no errors on either 
>  > partition and the machine boots into XP normally.
>  >  Upon starting the installation with the known geometry,
>  >
>  > boot: linux hda=14589,255,63
>
>  Why do you pass it the CHS geometry? Don't. 
> oops - maybe too late already :| I did miss your subject along with
> the
> boot details. But are you really hit by the dual boot problem? Do you
> just want to prevent? The errors in your mail seem to indicate a very
> different problem. 
I tried an install this past weekend, and the machine gave me the same
 error message when I loaded the CHS geometry(I was trying to avoid
 the dual boot bug).

Without the CHS geometry, the install proceeds fine, but when finished, I
can't boot XP.  I could boot into Fedora and into the Dell Diagnostic
Utility hidden partition.  As I remember, the Dell Utility hidden partition 
was given as
(hd0,0).  So I thought I could just modify the grub.conf file to (hd0,1),
to access the XP partition, but that file did not save correctly.  So I 
thought
I had a bad partition table.  I could not access my hard drive with the 
Fedora
 Rescue disk and could not issue the command:
sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H255 /dev/hda
or the command fdisk -l /dev/hda

I ended up using: fdisk /mbr and that allowed me to boot back into XP.  One
other thing I have noticed since then, is that my Knoppix 3.6 CD can read my
hard disk.  The command: fdisk -l /dev/hda works and the command
sfdisk  -d /dev/hda also works.  I don't know if I can write to it.

What a mess!  I am lost.

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Mi, den 01.09.2004 schrieb Richard Heldmann um 2:27:

>  I tried an install this past weekend, and the machine gave me the
> same
>   error message when I loaded the CHS geometry(I was trying to avoid
>   the dual boot bug).
>  
>  Without the CHS geometry, the install proceeds fine, but when finished, I
>  can't boot XP.  I could boot into Fedora and into the Dell Diagnostic
>  Utility hidden partition.  As I remember, the Dell Utility hidden partition 
>  was given as 
I see. Changing the BIOS setting for the drive from AUTO to LBA did not
work?

>  (hd0,0).  So I thought I could just modify the grub.conf file to
> (hd0,1),
>  to access the XP partition, but that file did not save correctly.  So I 
>  thought
>  I had a bad partition table.  I could not access my hard drive with the 
>  Fedora
>   Rescue disk and could not issue the command:
>  sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H255 /dev/hda
>  or the command fdisk -l /dev/hda 
That is curious that /dev/hda was not accessable from CD1 in rescue
mode. Please check your BIOS settings, maybe install a newer BIOS
version if available.

>  I ended up using: fdisk /mbr and that allowed me to boot back into
> XP.  One
>  other thing I have noticed since then, is that my Knoppix 3.6 CD can read my
>  hard disk.  The command: fdisk -l /dev/hda works and the command
>  sfdisk  -d /dev/hda also works.  I don't know if I can write to it. 
You can do the same from the Knoppix CD.

>  What a mess!  I am lost. 
http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/fc2.shtml

That page you probably know already, at least it's content.

Alexander


-- 
Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp 
Serendipity 02:54:36 up 2 days, 11 users, load average: 0.82, 0.48, 0.44

[Richard Heldmann]

> > > I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300, with a Seagate 
> > > Model ST3120026AS SATA 120Gb hard drive.
> > >  The controller is an Intel 82801ED Ultra ATA Storage Controller.  I 
> > > have repartioned the drive with Partition Magic
> > > and formatted the last 20Gb as ext2.  There are no errors on either 
> > > partition and the machine boots into XP normally.
> > >  Upon starting the installation with the known geometry,
> > >
> > > boot: linux hda=14589,255,63
> >
> > Why do you pass it the CHS geometry? Don't.
>
> >oops - maybe too late already :| I did miss your subject along with the
> >boot details. But are you really hit by the dual boot problem? Do you
> >just want to prevent? The errors in your mail seem to indicate a very
> >different problem.
>
>  I tried an install this past weekend, and the machine gave me the same
>  error message when I loaded the CHS geometry(I was trying to avoid
>  the dual boot bug).
>
>  Without the CHS geometry, the install proceeds fine, but when finished, I
>  can't boot XP.  I could boot into Fedora and into the Dell Diagnostic
>  Utility hidden partition.  As I remember, the Dell Utility hidden 
>  partition was given as
>  (hd0,0).  So I thought I could just modify the grub.conf file to (hd0,1),
>  to access the XP partition, but that file did not save correctly.  So I 
>  thought
>  I had a bad partition table.  I could not access my hard drive with the 
>  Fedora
>  Rescue disk and could not issue the command:
>  sfdisk -d /dev/hda | sfdisk --no-reread -H255 /dev/hda
>  or the command fdisk -l /dev/hda
>
>  I ended up using: fdisk /mbr and that allowed me to boot back into XP. 
>  One
>  other thing I have noticed since then, is that my Knoppix 3.6 CD can read 
>  my
>  hard disk.  The command: fdisk -l /dev/hda works and the command
>  sfdisk  -d /dev/hda also works.  I don't know if I can write to it.
>  
I have changed the switch in the BIOS from on to off for IDE DRIVE UDMA on 
my Seagate 120 GB SATA drive.  When entering the CHS data on initial boot, I 
changed hda to sda:
boot: linux sda 14589,255,63

I do not get an error, Fedora seems to think I have a scsi drive?  Is it ok 
to proceed?

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Mi, den 01.09.2004 schrieb Richard Heldmann um 9:40:

>  >> > I am trying to install FC2 on a Dell Dimension 8300,
> with a Seagate 
>  >> > Model ST3120026AS SATA 120Gb hard drive. 
>  I have changed the switch in the BIOS from on to off for IDE DRIVE
> UDMA on 
>  my Seagate 120 GB SATA drive.  When entering the CHS data on initial boot, I 
>  changed hda to sda:
>  boot: linux sda 14589,255,63 
I think it is a PATA hard drive and no SATA. It is /dev/hda then. If you
pass

linux sda=14589,255,63

it is just bogus and does nothing.

>  I do not get an error, Fedora seems to think I have a scsi drive?  Is
> it ok 
>  to proceed? 
If with your sda parameter setting the install process runs through you
can go on. The only pitfall can be that you are again hit by the dual
boot problem and XP will not boot. But you can say only later for sure.
If it is the case we will then fix it (either using rescue mode or your
Knoppix CD).

Alexander


-- 
Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13
Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.8-1.521smp 
Serendipity 12:21:07 up 2 days, 9:37, load average: 0.13, 0.23, 0.11