Hello
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed.
Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
These packages were exclusively associated with gnome-commander. No other app needs them!
I know yum builds on rpm and rpm itself is not so versatile with respect to removal but shouldn't yum(rpm) include some more stringent 'removal-options' (including removing the gnome-commander created directory ".gnome-commander" in the home folder).
apt/synaptic seems to include a 'complete removal' option.
Alexander
Alexander Volovics wrote:
Hello
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed.
Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
by default yum doesn't only precisely what you ask it to do.
You may want to try out yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed.
Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
Install yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves and use:
yum --remove-leaves remove ....
Sometimes works fine. Sometimes not.
Gabriel
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:48:51AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed. Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
by default yum doesn't only precisely what you ask it to do.
You may want to try out yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves
Thanks for the suggestion. From the packge desciption is seems to do something like what I described above.
It would have been helpfull if the package also included a description on how to actually use it.
So on to a yum-plugins site or trial and error.
Alexander
On 06/23/2010 04:11 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
Hello
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed.
Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
These packages were exclusively associated with gnome-commander. No other app needs them!
I know yum builds on rpm and rpm itself is not so versatile with respect to removal but shouldn't yum(rpm) include some more stringent 'removal-options' (including removing the gnome-commander created directory ".gnome-commander" in the home folder).
apt/synaptic seems to include a 'complete removal' option.
I recommend using yum history undo
Rahul
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:23:58PM +0300, Gabriel VLASIU wrote:
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed. Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
Install yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves and use:
yum --remove-leaves remove ....
Sometimes works fine. Sometimes not.
Aha so that is how it is used. Thanks for the info.
Alexander
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:01:43PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed. Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
I recommend using yum history undo
I have never used yum history before. The man page is not completely clear on how it should be used so I will have to try it out (and hope I make no mistakes, it seems to be pretty exacting).
It does look like it might be more precise than 'yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves'
Thanks for the suggestion Rahul
Alexander
On 06/23/2010 06:19 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I have never used yum history before. The man page is not completely clear on how it should be used so I will have to try it out (and hope I make no mistakes, it seems to be pretty exacting).
It does look like it might be more precise than 'yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves'
yum history list will provide a list of ids. date and time, action involved. yum history undo <id number> will undo that action.
Rahul
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:26:26PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/23/2010 06:19 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I have never used yum history before. The man page is not completely clear on how it should be used so I will have to try it out (and hope I make no mistakes, it seems to be pretty exacting).
It does look like it might be more precise than 'yum-plugin-remove-with-leaves'
yum history list will provide a list of ids. date and time, action involved. yum history undo <id number> will undo that action.
I just tried it and as I suspected it is a bit terse.
What if you have 2 entries for the same date with the 'same' action and only different times and you can't remember which one you performed first.
I know you can look in the system logs in 'yum.log' to see which is which but it still is a tiny bit mistake prone.
Alexander
On 06/23/2010 06:49 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I just tried it and as I suspected it is a bit terse.
What if you have 2 entries for the same date with the 'same' action and only different times and you can't remember which one you performed first.
I know you can look in the system logs in 'yum.log' to see which is which but it still is a tiny bit mistake prone.
yum history info <id> will show you more precise details of the action.
Rahul
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:57:12PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/23/2010 06:49 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I just tried it and as I suspected it is a bit terse. What if you have 2 entries for the same date with the 'same' action and only different times and you can't remember which one you performed first. I know you can look in the system logs in 'yum.log' to see which is which but it still is a tiny bit mistake prone.
yum history info <id> will show you more precise details of the action.
My education continues :) Bit shamefull me being a Red Hat/Fedora user since Red Hat 2 !
A combination of age and things having gotten to easy I suspect.
Thanks again Rahul.
Rahul
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On 06/23/2010 07:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
My education continues :) Bit shamefull me being a Red Hat/Fedora user since Red Hat 2 !
A combination of age and things having gotten to easy I suspect.
Thanks again Rahul.
Age doesn't gain you wisdom when the world around you constantly changes, esp true of technology. yum history is a relatively new option. Only been available for six months or so.
Rahul
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 12:41 +0200, Alexander Volovics wrote:
Hello
I recently installed gnome-commander. Because gnome-commander needs 'meld', 'exiv2-libs', 'gnome-vfs2-smb' these were also installed.
Today I removed gnome-commander with 'yum remove' but yum did not include (or even suggest) meld, exiv2libs and gnome-vfs2-smb for removal. Why?
I use meld all the time as a substitute fro diff. It is noway only useful in conjunction with gnome commander.
These packages were exclusively associated with gnome-commander. No other app needs them!
I know yum builds on rpm and rpm itself is not so versatile with respect to removal but shouldn't yum(rpm) include some more stringent 'removal-options' (including removing the gnome-commander created directory ".gnome-commander" in the home folder).
apt/synaptic seems to include a 'complete removal' option.
Alexander
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Alexander Volovics wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:57:12PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/23/2010 06:49 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
I just tried it and as I suspected it is a bit terse. What if you have 2 entries for the same date with the 'same' action and only different times and you can't remember which one you performed first. I know you can look in the system logs in 'yum.log' to see which is which but it still is a tiny bit mistake prone.
yum history info <id> will show you more precise details of the action.
My education continues :) Bit shamefull me being a Red Hat/Fedora user since Red Hat 2 !
A combination of age and things having gotten to easy I suspect.
Not having needed history, I certainly didn't know about it. I have used the "leaves" plugin, and like many things in Linux it may do what you tell it and not what you meant. However, in general that does what you want, and is easier to use but less selective than history. Particularly if history has rolled on since the change of interest.
Glad you found multiple ways to address the problem.
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