I'm running Fedora 31/KDE and it is great. Fantastic, actually. Kudos to the team that delivers and supports Fedora, release after release. Things just keep getting better and better and the update process is so smooth and easy. Especially compared to those other operating systems...
However, F31/KDE isn't perfect. Here are a few things that could be better...
1) There is a bug that creates distortion in playing audio via HDMI monitors. I frequently have to do a pulseaudio -k to reset things.
2) There is a bug when running dual monitors and the left monitor is rotated and not the primary monitor. I have to start SystemSettings and force a reinitialization every time I reboot.
3) There is a bug wherein the HDMI monitor I want my audio played on isn't saved. It always wants to play on the first (left most) monitor. I have to start pauvolume and select my primary monitor every time I reboot.
4) It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
Generally I do a #dnf update followed by a #shutdown -r now.
When I reboot and login to a new session, Firefox allows me to restore all my open browsers, but it doesn't remember which Desktop they were on... so I have to manually sort them. Likewise Konsole sessions don't remember what Desktop they were in, nor the path they were open to. Would be nice if they did.
5) There is an unintended behavior whereby if I open a document fullsize on one screen, it goes fullsize on any screen I move it to.
For example, I run a 22" monitor in portrait mode to the left of my primary 43" 4K monitor. I often fullscreen a document in the side monitor to refer to while I am working on something on the primary monitor. If I then drag the document from the side monitor to the primary 4K monitor, it goes fullscreen there. And then I have to resize it. It would be nice if it stayed the same size, pixel wise, when it moves from screen to screen.
6) My mouse doesn't move enough...
My desktop is very wide. A side 1920x1080 monitor running in portrait beside a 4K monitor. I have my mouse speed/acceleration turned right up, but I often run out of space on my mouse pad before I can move across or even up and down my desktop. It would be nice if there was more speed/acceleration so less hand movement was required.
Enough of the negative... how about some things I absolutely love about Linux/Fedora/KDE Plasma...
1) Putting a panel anywhere I want ! When you've got this much screen real estate, you need several of them.
2) Multiple desktops. OMG, I could never live without multiple desktops. So nice to be able to sort tasks into desktops and then jump from desktop to desktop to handle things.
3) The way task manager groups and displays apps in the panel. So nice... but... I wish there was a way to sort and search instances within a task list... like if I have 7 Firefox browsers open on a desktop, be able to arrange them in a certain order (gmail at the bottom, for example) or find all the browsers that have YouTube open in them. That sort of thing.
4) dnf update. Dnf in general. Has there ever been such a great package manager ? I can remember complaining going from Yum to DNF, but I was wrong !
I love how I'll get a desktop notification for updates, I can run dnf update (when I want), view what is available, stop the update, update select packages, etc. Updates work around me, I don't have to work around updates. And the update process is unobtrusive, it can generally run in the background without interrupting my work. (On a faster multicore machine, anyway.)
5) Konsole. I love me some Konsole sessions. Especially the way you can right click and open Dolphin in the directory you are working in from Dolphin. And especially how you can open Konsole from Dolphin.
6) The stability.
I can start work on Monday and run all week without rebooting or even logging out. My computer never freezes or stumbles or loses data. It's fantastic. I never have to reboot and get organized again. I work. I go away. I come back. And everything is just the way I left it.
7) The ability to mount just about any file system ever.
'nuff said.
I'll leave it at that. To say I am enjoying and appreciating Linux/Fedora/KDE these days is an understatement.
LG
On 2020-01-25 14:48, linux guy wrote:
I'm running Fedora 31/KDE and it is great. Fantastic, actually. Kudos to the team that delivers and supports Fedora, release after release. Things just keep getting better and better and the update process is so smooth and easy. Especially compared to those other operating systems...
However, F31/KDE isn't perfect. Here are a few things that could be better...
- There is a bug that creates distortion in playing audio via HDMI monitors. I frequently have to do a pulseaudio -k to reset things.
File a bugzilla.
- There is a bug when running dual monitors and the left monitor is rotated and not the primary monitor. I have to start SystemSettings and force a reinitialization every time I reboot.
File a bugzilla.
- There is a bug wherein the HDMI monitor I want my audio played on isn't saved. It always wants to play on the first (left most) monitor. I have to start pauvolume and select my primary monitor every time I reboot.
Have you actually found a monitor with good speakers? :-) I don't know if this is a bug or configuration since my 2 monitors have really bad speakers and I refuse to use them. My external Bose speakers do a *much* better job. :-)
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
Did you check "System Settings-->Startup and Shutdown-->Desktop Session"?
Generally I do a #dnf update followed by a #shutdown -r now.
When I reboot and login to a new session, Firefox allows me to restore all my open browsers, but it doesn't remember which Desktop they were on... so I have to manually sort them. Likewise Konsole sessions don't remember what Desktop they were in, nor the path they were open to. Would be nice if they did.
You probably will get closer to your goal by checking/trying the options noted above and logging out prior to doing a restart.
You may also want to investigate "System Settings-->Window Management--Window Rules". You can control where, what size, etc, of applications.
- There is an unintended behavior whereby if I open a document fullsize on one screen, it goes fullsize on any screen I move it to.
For example, I run a 22" monitor in portrait mode to the left of my primary 43" 4K monitor. I often fullscreen a document in the side monitor to refer to while I am working on something on the primary monitor. If I then drag the document from the side monitor to the primary 4K monitor, it goes fullscreen there. And then I have to resize it. It would be nice if it stayed the same size, pixel wise, when it moves from screen to screen.
Sounds to me as if that is an intended behavior. If a window is in full-screen and you move it another display why shouldn't it remain in full-screen?
- My mouse doesn't move enough...
My desktop is very wide. A side 1920x1080 monitor running in portrait beside a 4K monitor. I have my mouse speed/acceleration turned right up, but I often run out of space on my mouse pad before I can move across or even up and down my desktop. It would be nice if there was more speed/acceleration so less hand movement was required.
FWIW, I got sick of mice and the wrist pain if produced for me. I switched to a trackball and never regretted that decision. I can zip across my 2 2560x1440 displays with the flick of a finger.
Interesting comments, Ed. One of the benefits of making a post like this is the feedback it will get from the unique and talented audience on this list.
On Fri, 2020-01-24 at 23:48 -0700, linux guy wrote:
I'm running Fedora 31/KDE and it is great. Fantastic, actually. Kudos to the team that delivers and supports Fedora, release after release. Things just keep getting better and better and the update process is so smooth and easy. Especially compared to those other operating systems...
However, F31/KDE isn't perfect. Here are a few things that could be better...
There is a KDE Fedora mailing list where it would probably be more productive to post this. mailto:kde-join@lists.fedoraproject.org
[...]
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
This is also a pet peeve of mine. However I think KDE apps do remember their desktop, it's the non-KDE ones that don't. This includes Firefox and Chrome among others.
[...]
- Multiple desktops. OMG, I could never live without multiple desktops.
So nice to be able to sort tasks into desktops and then jump from desktop to desktop to handle things.
Gnome also has multiple desktops. I find the KDE implementation much more usable, but that's a matter of preference.
- dnf update. Dnf in general. Has there ever been such a great package
manager ? I can remember complaining going from Yum to DNF, but I was wrong !
This has nothing to do with KDE. Dnf is common to all Fedora spins.
poc
On 2020-01-25 19:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
This is also a pet peeve of mine. However I think KDE apps do remember their desktop, it's the non-KDE ones that don't. This includes Firefox and Chrome among others.
I'm not a user of saved desktops.
But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login.
I have also found, while testing in a VM, that if you don't have "KillUserProcesses=yes" set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf you can get into a situation where if you logout/login it can result in a black-screen.
Another quirk, even though I'm not running dolphin it gets started in the Desktop I was in when I logged out.
All of this may explain why I don't use that "feature".
On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 20:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-25 19:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
This is also a pet peeve of mine. However I think KDE apps do remember their desktop, it's the non-KDE ones that don't. This includes Firefox and Chrome among others.
I'm not a user of saved desktops.
But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login.
Now try it with multiple windows, each in a different desktop. For extra credit, make sure each window has multiple tabs.
poc
Me too !
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 10:44 AM Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 2020-01-25 at 20:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-25 19:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown.
For
example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few
Konsole
sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes
along that
I need to apply that requires a reboot.
This is also a pet peeve of mine. However I think KDE apps do remember their desktop, it's the non-KDE ones that don't. This includes Firefox and Chrome among others.
I'm not a user of saved desktops.
But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore
previous session" and if I have a window
rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that
desktop upon logout/login.
Now try it with multiple windows, each in a different desktop. For extra credit, make sure each window has multiple tabs.
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"But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login."
Where is this setting ?
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020 at 5:39 AM Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 2020-01-25 19:18, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few
Konsole
sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along
that
I need to apply that requires a reboot.
This is also a pet peeve of mine. However I think KDE apps do remember their desktop, it's the non-KDE ones that don't. This includes Firefox and Chrome among others.
I'm not a user of saved desktops.
But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login.
I have also found, while testing in a VM, that if you don't have "KillUserProcesses=yes" set in /etc/systemd/logind.conf you can get into a situation where if you logout/login it can result in a black-screen.
Another quirk, even though I'm not running dolphin it gets started in the Desktop I was in when I logged out.
All of this may explain why I don't use that "feature".
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On 2020-01-28 10:30, linux guy wrote:
"But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login."
Where is this setting ?
System Settings--->Startup and Shutdown--->Desktop Session
FWIW, poc is pretty much correct in that this feature has "deficiencies". And I forgot why I had not tried using it in the past. For some cases it may be OK.
I just found it more to my liking to establish window rules for my most used apps and then assign FN+FX keys to start them when I login to an "empty session".
Wow, I didn't even know that setting was in System Settings.
Thanks for the tip.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 2020-01-28 10:30, linux guy wrote:
"But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore
previous session" and if I have a window
rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that
desktop upon logout/login."
Where is this setting ?
System Settings--->Startup and Shutdown--->Desktop Session
FWIW, poc is pretty much correct in that this feature has "deficiencies". And I forgot why I had not tried using it in the past. For some cases it may be OK.
I just found it more to my liking to establish window rules for my most used apps and then assign FN+FX keys to start them when I login to an "empty session".
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On Tue, 2020-01-28 at 10:56 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-28 10:30, linux guy wrote:
"But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore previous session" and if I have a window rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that desktop upon logout/login."
Where is this setting ?
System Settings--->Startup and Shutdown--->Desktop Session
See also the Leave button in the Kickoff widget, specifically the Save Session item which lets you save the current setup.
FWIW, poc is pretty much correct in that this feature has "deficiencies". And I forgot why I had not tried using it in the past. For some cases it may be OK.
I just found it more to my liking to establish window rules for my most used apps and then assign FN+FX keys to start them when I login to an "empty session".
As the OP implied, some of us like to start a session with a set of windows preloaded on specific desktops (and even in tabs in those windows). Can the FN+FX technique deal with this?
For a while I've been using a script from https://github.com/zepalmer/script-vdr with my own adaptations. It does require manually saving/restoring the browser setup, but mostly seemed to work on F30. Unfortunately it's written in Python 2 and I haven't got round to adapting it for Python 3 on F31.
poc
On 2020-01-28 20:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As the OP implied, some of us like to start a session with a set of windows preloaded on specific desktops (and even in tabs in those windows). Can the FN+FX technique deal with this?
I don't know what "tabs in those window" means.
But my requirements are rather simple. I have 6 desktops and 2 screens. Using the "Windows Rules" I've defined a set of rules for my commonly used applications so when they are started the will be placed on the desktop and screen and size and coordinates I want them.
I've then defined a bunch of FN+FX key shortcuts to start those applications with the options I want. For example, the key to start konsole will start it with the option --tabs-from-file.
Yes, I start with an empty desktop and do have to hit a few key to get started. But for me it is OK since I may not want to initially start all the applications I have defined shortcuts.
On Tue, 2020-01-28 at 21:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-28 20:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As the OP implied, some of us like to start a session with a set of windows preloaded on specific desktops (and even in tabs in those windows). Can the FN+FX technique deal with this?
I don't know what "tabs in those window" means.
Example: I have a window with two email accounts and several other things in it. Another window is open to several news sites. Those two windows live on the same desktop. A third window is open to a crosswords page and lives on a desktop where I have a large Konsole window, so I can easily open URLs without switching desktops. There are several others (6 desktops in total) but that's the general idea.
But my requirements are rather simple. I have 6 desktops and 2 screens. Using the "Windows Rules" I've defined a set of rules for my commonly used applications so when they are started the will be placed on the desktop and screen and size and coordinates I want them.
Again, I don't know how this works when a single application has multiple windows on different desktops, especially if those windows have multiple tabs. Maybe you don't do that.
poc
On 2020-01-29 00:52, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2020-01-28 at 21:59 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-01-28 20:35, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
As the OP implied, some of us like to start a session with a set of windows preloaded on specific desktops (and even in tabs in those windows). Can the FN+FX technique deal with this?
I don't know what "tabs in those window" means.
Example: I have a window with two email accounts and several other things in it. Another window is open to several news sites. Those two windows live on the same desktop. A third window is open to a crosswords page and lives on a desktop where I have a large Konsole window, so I can easily open URLs without switching desktops. There are several others (6 desktops in total) but that's the general idea.
But my requirements are rather simple. I have 6 desktops and 2 screens. Using the "Windows Rules" I've defined a set of rules for my commonly used applications so when they are started the will be placed on the desktop and screen and size and coordinates I want them.
Again, I don't know how this works when a single application has multiple windows on different desktops, especially if those windows have multiple tabs. Maybe you don't do that.
Your use case wouldn't be supported.
FWIW, this setting made no difference to how my applications behaved on a restart.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:38 PM linux guy linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
Wow, I didn't even know that setting was in System Settings.
Thanks for the tip.
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:58 PM Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 2020-01-28 10:30, linux guy wrote:
"But, I just confirmed that if I have the setting set for "Restore
previous session" and if I have a window
rule for firefox to be in a certain desktop it will start in that
desktop upon logout/login."
Where is this setting ?
System Settings--->Startup and Shutdown--->Desktop Session
FWIW, poc is pretty much correct in that this feature has "deficiencies". And I forgot why I had not tried using it in the past. For some cases it may be OK.
I just found it more to my liking to establish window rules for my most used apps and then assign FN+FX keys to start them when I login to an "empty session".
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 12:16 AM linux guy linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
- There is a bug wherein the HDMI monitor I want my audio played on isn't
saved. It always wants to play on the first (left most) monitor. I have to start pauvolume and select my primary monitor every time I reboot.
Use `pacmd list-sinks` to figure out the index number for the device you want and then run `pacmd set-default-sink N` to set it as the default.
4) It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
Generally I do a #dnf update followed by a #shutdown -r now.
If you shutdown from the command line KDE Plasma gets killed before it has a chance to save anything. You'll need to shutdown from within Plasma if you want it to be able to save state before it exits.
You could create an alias for the long-winded command to shut down Plasma if you still want to use the command line:
https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-fro...
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, if I do a normal shutdown, Firefox asks to close all the open windows first, which means they don't automatically reopen upon restart.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:53 PM T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingsworth@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 12:16 AM linux guy linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
- There is a bug wherein the HDMI monitor I want my audio played on
isn't saved. It always wants to play on the first (left most) monitor. I have to start pauvolume and select my primary monitor every time I reboot.
Use `pacmd list-sinks` to figure out the index number for the device you want and then run `pacmd set-default-sink N` to set it as the default.
- It would be really, really nice if KDE remembered which desktop an
application was on when you rebooted after doing a forced shutdown. For example, sometimes I have 30 Firefox browsers open on various topics, spread across 3 or 4 desktops, plus some PDFs in viewers and a few Konsole sessions and a few Kwrite documents... and a large update comes along that I need to apply that requires a reboot.
Generally I do a #dnf update followed by a #shutdown -r now.
If you shutdown from the command line KDE Plasma gets killed before it has a chance to save anything. You'll need to shutdown from within Plasma if you want it to be able to save state before it exits.
You could create an alias for the long-winded command to shut down Plasma if you still want to use the command line:
https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-fro...
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On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:17:46 -0700 linux guy linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, if I do a normal shutdown, Firefox asks to close all the open windows first, which means they don't automatically reopen upon restart.
In my copy of firefox, under preferences -> general the first choice is to tick or not a box to restore previous session on startup. This works for me.
Dave
On 2020-02-07 13:17, linux guy wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, if I do a normal shutdown, Firefox asks to close all the open windows first, which means they don't automatically reopen upon restart.
If I have 2 firefox windows open, each with 4 open tabs, and I do
qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 3 3
I get logged out without any prompts to close any windows/tabs of FF.
And when I log back in and start FF my windows/tabs are restored. I also have it set for KDE to start with a blank session on login.
Oddly?, I don't have "Restore Previous Session" checked as Dave has mentioned. This option may only be relevant if one closes FF directly.
This works for me too, but when the session is restarted, Firefox opens all the windows on my main screen and leaves them them.
If I do a forced shutdown with #shutdown now, Firefox will display Restore Previous Session on a web page. If you click that the previous windows are reopened and positioned/sized in their original location, except all on one desktop. Apparently Firefox doesn't know about multiple desktops ?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:34 PM Dave Stevens geek@uniserve.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 22:17:46 -0700 linux guy linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, if I do a normal shutdown, Firefox asks to close all the open windows first, which means they don't automatically reopen upon restart.
In my copy of firefox, under preferences -> general the first choice is to tick or not a box to restore previous session on startup. This works for me.
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 13:44:27 +0800 Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
This option may only be relevant if one closes FF directly.
yes, may be.That's what I normally do.
d
There seems to be some overlap between what firefox does versus what the windows manager, KDE in my case, does. For some reason the behavior is different if the session is logged out of, if the computer is forced shutdown or if firefox is shut down directly.
Of the three, I prefer to do a forced shutdown as firefox restores the best when I do that. The only thing it doesn't do is put the firefox windows on the right desktop.
Pretty interesting how far desktop managers and computers have come such that this is a complaint.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 10:45 PM Ed Greshko ed.greshko@greshko.com wrote:
On 2020-02-07 13:17, linux guy wrote:
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, if I do a normal shutdown, Firefox
asks to close all the open windows first, which means they don't automatically reopen upon restart.
If I have 2 firefox windows open, each with 4 open tabs, and I do
qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 3 3
I get logged out without any prompts to close any windows/tabs of FF.
And when I log back in and start FF my windows/tabs are restored. I also have it set for KDE to start with a blank session on login.
Oddly?, I don't have "Restore Previous Session" checked as Dave has mentioned. This option may only be relevant if one closes FF directly.
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On 2020-02-07 13:53, linux guy wrote:
There seems to be some overlap between what firefox does versus what the windows manager, KDE in my case, does. For some reason the behavior is different if the session is logged out of, if the computer is forced shutdown or if firefox is shut down directly.
Of the three, I prefer to do a forced shutdown as firefox restores the best when I do that. The only thing it doesn't do is put the firefox windows on the right desktop.
If you always run FF in a certain desktop then just create a "window rule" for it.
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