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Bonjour,
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or ldap authentication....
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
Thanks for suggestions
- -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
François Patte wrote:
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Bonjour,
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or ldap authentication....
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
-- Sam
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:56:41AM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
François Patte wrote:
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Bonjour,
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or ldap authentication....
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Sharpe, Sam J:
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
fred smith:
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too.
I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing).
I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in.
Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me.
fred smith wrote:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:56:41AM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
François Patte wrote:
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Err, I was actually speaking from experience.
That setting is from my Desktop machine running Fedora 10, which is connected to an LDAP directory. The search DN for this machine currently has 24 users in it.
My login screen currently shows Me and "Other..."
I have to admit that I haven't asked anyone else to login so it may be that it contains everyone who has logged in, the last user or some other smaller list - but it certainly doesn't contain everyone in the directory.
-- Sam
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J:
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
fred smith:
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too.
I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing).
I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in.
Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me.
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm. You can't get rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces disappear as expected. If you want the faces back, use "false."
The gconf-editor doesn't yet support editing alternate configuration choices like this yet, but perhaps a knowledgeable person on this list could help with that.
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J:
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
fred smith:
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
That's interesting. I thought for a moment that I had that set, but I've checked and I don't.
[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \ --config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \ --get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list false
[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \ --config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system \ --get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list No value set for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list'
[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \ --config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory \ --get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list No value set for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list'
... so now I'm mystified why it "works for me (tm)"!
-- Sam
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm. You can't get rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces disappear as expected. If you want the faces back, use "false."
Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9. And I have rebooted. I've tried something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so ago), with the same lack of success.
I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the chooser, I don't want any list of names.
2009/3/12 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au:
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm. You can't get rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces disappear as expected. If you want the faces back, use "false."
Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9. And I have rebooted. I've tried something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so ago), with the same lack of success.
I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the chooser, I don't want any list of names.
I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora 9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational installer, that is what I was using.
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 23:37 +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora 9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in GConf.
Not surprised.
You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational installer, that is what I was using.
No, it doesn't. I'd already tried that. GDM has refused any customisation that I've tried since putting Fedora 9 on two computers, here.
What I've currently got in the file, testing it:
--------- begin paste of /etc/gdm/custom.conf ---------- # GDM configuration storage
[greeter] Browser=false BackgroundImage=/usr/share/backgrounds/nature/FreshFlower.jpg Exclude=testuser -------- end paste ---------
Tried turning the browser off, tried changing the background, tried explicitly listing usernames not to be displayed in the browser. No configuration controls have any effect.
I find it rather incredible that such radical changes were accepted to a package to included in the distribution. Even more so that it's never been fixed.
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:37:15PM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/3/12 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au:
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm. You can't get rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces disappear as expected. If you want the faces back, use "false."
Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9. And I have rebooted. I've tried something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so ago), with the same lack of success.
I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the chooser, I don't want any list of names.
I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora 9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational installer, that is what I was using.
Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All it contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security, and debug. I added:
[greeter] browser=false
and it makes no diff at all.
2009/3/12 fred smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us:
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:37:15PM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/3/12 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au:
On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm. You can't get rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces disappear as expected. If you want the faces back, use "false."
Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9. And I have rebooted. I've tried something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so ago), with the same lack of success.
I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the chooser, I don't want any list of names.
I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora 9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational installer, that is what I was using.
Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All it contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security, and debug. I added:
[greeter] browser=false
Sorry for the stupid question, but is that all lower-case or does it actually say Browser (I have no idea if that matters - mine is capitalised)?
I've checked our config Repo, and we have:
f10: echo "INFO: fix-config-files.sh: Disable GDM user list" gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true
(that's roughly what Paul posted)
f9: Our installer attempts to configure consolehelper access to gdmsetup, which implies you still have the gdmsetup program - have you tried using it to configure the list?
I'm wondering now why my system displays just me and "Other..." - I'm going to do some playing tomorrow (on someone else's machine) and see what the difference is ;o) One of my colleagues just mentioned a feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user list if you have a lot of users, but I haven't checked if that's actually the case - can anyone confirm or deny?
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is included with the distro...
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password
edit the section in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc
[X-*-Greeter] ... UserList=true
change to false no users will be listed...
maybe a nice picture...)
edit the section in /etc/kde/kdm/backgroundrc
[Desktop0] ... Wallpaper=/usr/share/wallpapers/solar.png
change to some other image...
cheers paul
On 03/12/2009 07:47 AM, François Patte wrote:
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Bonjour,
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or ldap authentication....
How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
Thanks for suggestions
François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2145 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:24:18 +0000 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
One of my colleagues just mentioned a feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user list if you have a lot of users
My impression is that the algorithm is to display only locally defined users in F10, not NIS etc. (and even then, only locally defined regular users, not system accounts).
2009/3/13 paul s fedora-list@queuemail.com:
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is included with the distro...
What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM - The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
GDM is definitely in the distro: http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x8...
(Have I just been bitten by a troll?)
2009/3/13 Tom Horsley tom.horsley@att.net:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:24:18 +0000 Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
One of my colleagues just mentioned a feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user list if you have a lot of users
My impression is that the algorithm is to display only locally defined users in F10, not NIS etc. (and even then, only locally defined regular users, not system accounts).
That's interesting. My user definitely isn't defined locally, but I was wondering if GDM also shows people who have logged in (or maybe the last logged-in?).
Not in any F10 I've ever installed. Are you installing from a KDE-centric liveCD spin or something?
yeah, totally slipped on that... figured since fedora chose kde, moving forward the kdm would be setup as the default in other spins...
plus the reference to :
New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and password).
my bad, i focused on new...
On 03/12/2009 08:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:30:58 -0400 paul s wrote:
a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is included with the distro...
Not in any F10 I've ever installed. Are you installing from a KDE-centric liveCD spin or something?
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM - The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
Depends on the spin. ;-)
The KDE spin defaults to KDM (and does not install GDM at all). The GNOME ("Desktop") spin defaults to GDM (and does not install KDM). For the DVD, it depends on what you select: KDM is installed if and only if you choose KDE, GDM is implied by GNOME and XFCE. If both get installed, GDM is the default, if only one gets installed, that's obviously the default. For spins.fedoraproject.org spins and custom remixes, it depends on what the maintainer of the spin or remix chose.
Kevin Kofler
2009/3/13 Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at:
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM - The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
Depends on the spin. ;-)
Spins are a completely different kettle of fish. That's like me saying "KDM is the default" just because the %post scripts in all the kickstart files we use makes that the default.
By "Default installation", I meant installation from one of these isos: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64... because, If we're going to be picky, I'm going to claim that all the F10 spins are Live CDs from which you can also perform an installation - they aren't what I would traditionally represent as "default" installs.
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
2009/3/13 Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at:
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM - The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
Depends on the spin. ;-)
Spins are a completely different kettle of fish. That's like me saying "KDM is the default" just because the %post scripts in all the kickstart files we use makes that the default.
By "Default installation", I meant installation from one of these isos: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86_64... because, If we're going to be picky, I'm going to claim that all the F10 spins are Live CDs from which you can also perform an installation
- they aren't what I would traditionally represent as "default"
installs.
Spins can be live or regular images though people who have proposed spins have chosen to do live images (some are cd's. others are dvd's) ones.
Note that "default" option in http://get.fedoraproject.org is the desktop live cd and not the Fedora DVD image. In fact, Fedora releases can be thought of a sample set of spins and the tools are available in the repository to do your own Fedora, just the way you like it. I kind of have done that myself.
http://lwn.net/Articles/311650/
Rahul
Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All it contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security, and debug. I added:
The GNOME developers crippled gdm and never put back most of the features after restructuring it. Replace it with one of the other greeters and the world will be a better place.
system-switch-displaymanager [foo]
will do the trick and the display manager and desktop used are not tied you can keep the same desktop.
As it is gdm is basically useless if for example you have two people with the same personal name.
In theory you can also write a new greeter (the bit that does the ask for name/password etc) for gdm, but the current code is not exactly obvious.
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Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit :
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J:
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
fred smith:
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too.
I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing).
I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in.
Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me.
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
It worked for me too on f10.
Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one screen but become ugly when spread on two screens...
I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this..
Thanks.
- -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54:53AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
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Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit :
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
Sharpe, Sam J:
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
[greeter] Browser=false
Then restart gdm...
fred smith:
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it, and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled, including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE on the small screen).
Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though I haven't tried that.
Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn user list appearing on GDM. Neither does anything stop the inclusion of names I want excluded. I've even tried changing the background image, and it ignores that instruction, too.
I've got no kind words for the thing. It's not configurable. It's slow to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7. Every log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously, nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID, user name, real name, nothing).
I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome needs to run. I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so KDM's not getting a look in.
Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be, would suit me.
This should work fine:
$ su - # enter root password at prompt $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source) $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \ --type bool true
It worked for me too on f10.
Really! Didn't do anything visibly useful on my f10. Perhaps I should try it agagian.
Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one screen but become ugly when spread on two screens...
I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this..
Thanks.
François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
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Le 14/03/2009 16:37, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
François Patte wrote:
I would like the chooser in French
Set the systemwide default locale in /etc/sysconfig/i18n: LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"
It is like this, but I have "Enter your login name" in the chooser.... Don't know why other things are in French: "Langues" "Session" (this one is not meaningful!
- -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 4286 2413 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte