"Win" key

[oleksandr korneta]

Every time I restart my machine, the Win key (Super_R/L or mod4) stops
functioning, means - no key combinations involving this key work.

the out put of xmodmap looks fine to me.
$ xmodmap
xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3
mod4        Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
mod5        Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

$

However, I found the way to bring it back. I run
gnome-keyboard-properties and change my the "Keyboard model" value from
"Generic 105-key (Intl) PC", which I have by default, to "Generic
102-key (Intl) PC" for instance, and close that window to apply the
changes. Amazingly, the Win key starts working. Now I can change this
value back original one. The story repeats on next start-up.

This is FC6 and I am using fluxbox as my window manager. What can be the
problem here?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em Sáb 28 Abr 2007, oleksandr korneta escreveu:
> Every time I restart my machine, the Win key (Super_R/L or mod4) stops
> functioning, means - no key combinations involving this key work.
>
> the out put of xmodmap looks fine to me.
> $ xmodmap
> xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):
>
> shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
> lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
> control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
> mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
> mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
> mod3
> mod4        Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80)
> mod5        Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)
>
> $
>
> However, I found the way to bring it back. I run
> gnome-keyboard-properties and change my the "Keyboard model" value from
> "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC", which I have by default, to "Generic
> 102-key (Intl) PC" for instance, and close that window to apply the
> changes. Amazingly, the Win key starts working. Now I can change this
> value back original one. The story repeats on next start-up.
>
> This is FC6 and I am using fluxbox as my window manager. What can be the
> problem here?

This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A workaround 
you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice section of 
your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"

[]'s
Marcelo

[oleksandr korneta]

on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A workaround 
> you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice section of 
> your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"

this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
until they fix the bug *hoping*

[Doncho N. Gunchev]

On Saturday 2007-05-05 05:58:04 oleksandr korneta wrote:
> on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A workaround 
> > you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice section of 
> > your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> > Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"
>
> this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
> until they fix the bug *hoping*

...

Isn't this in bugzilla (I can not find it and hate to do it myself for every system)?
Shouldn't this workaround be enabled by default 'till the bug is fixed upstream?

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em Dom 06 Mai 2007, Doncho N. Gunchev escreveu:
> On Saturday 2007-05-05 05:58:04 oleksandr korneta wrote:
> > on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > > This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A
> > > workaround you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice
> > > section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> > > Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"
> >
> > this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
> > until they fix the bug *hoping*
>
> ...
>
> Isn't this in bugzilla (I can not find it and hate to do it myself for
> every system)?

It's in xorg's bugzilla, but I don't remember the bug number.
> Shouldn't this workaround be enabled by default 'till the
> bug is fixed upstream?

Maybe it isn't because it has collateral effects depending on the language you 
use.
In my case, the right Alt should behave differently from the left one (AltGR, 
for symbols), and I loose this functionality if I use the workaround above. 
Instead, I use:
Option          "XkbOptions" "altwin:left_meta_win"
With this option I have AltGR on the right Alt key, but then only the left Win 
key works. Oh, well, I can live with that until the bug is fixed (if it will 
ever be)...
Maybe someone more knowledgeable with X configuration can come up with other 
solution that keeps both AltGR and the two Win keys working. If there is such 
workaround, I think it should be enabled by default while upstream don't fix 
the bug.

[]'s
Marcelo

[Doncho N. Gunchev]

On Monday 2007-05-07 14:50:29 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> Em Dom 06 Mai 2007, Doncho N. Gunchev escreveu:
> > On Saturday 2007-05-05 05:58:04 oleksandr korneta wrote:
> > > on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > > > This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A
> > > > workaround you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice
> > > > section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> > > > Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"
> > >
> > > this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
> > > until they fix the bug *hoping*
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Isn't this in bugzilla (I can not find it and hate to do it myself for
> > every system)?
>
> It's in xorg's bugzilla, but I don't remember the bug number.

7008
> > Shouldn't this workaround be enabled by default 'till the
> > bug is fixed upstream?
>
> Maybe it isn't because it has collateral effects depending on the language you use.
> In my case, the right Alt should behave differently from the left one (AltGR, 
> for symbols), and I loose this functionality if I use the workaround above. 
> Instead, I use:
> Option          "XkbOptions" "altwin:left_meta_win"
> With this option I have AltGR on the right Alt key, but then only the left Win 
> key works. Oh, well, I can live with that until the bug is fixed (if it will 
> ever be)...
> Maybe someone more knowledgeable with X configuration can come up with other 
> solution that keeps both AltGR and the two Win keys working. If there is such 
> workaround, I think it should be enabled by default while upstream don't fix 
> the bug.
>
> []'s
> Marcelo

Filled in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239409

[Marcelo Magno T. Sales]

Em Ter 08 Mai 2007, Doncho N. Gunchev escreveu:
> On Monday 2007-05-07 14:50:29 Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > Em Dom 06 Mai 2007, Doncho N. Gunchev escreveu:
> > > On Saturday 2007-05-05 05:58:04 oleksandr korneta wrote:
> > > > on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > > > > This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A
> > > > > workaround you may use is adding the following line to the
> > > > > InputDevice section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> > > > > Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"
> > > >
> > > > this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
> > > > until they fix the bug *hoping*
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Isn't this in bugzilla (I can not find it and hate to do it myself for
> > > every system)?
> >
> > It's in xorg's bugzilla, but I don't remember the bug number.
>
> 7008
> > > Shouldn't this workaround be enabled by default 'till the
> > > bug is fixed upstream?
> >
> > Maybe it isn't because it has collateral effects depending on the
> > language you use. In my case, the right Alt should behave differently
> > from the left one (AltGR, for symbols), and I loose this functionality if
> > I use the workaround above. Instead, I use:
> > Option          "XkbOptions" "altwin:left_meta_win"
> > With this option I have AltGR on the right Alt key, but then only the
> > left Win key works. Oh, well, I can live with that until the bug is fixed
> > (if it will ever be)...
> > Maybe someone more knowledgeable with X configuration can come up with
> > other solution that keeps both AltGR and the two Win keys working. If
> > there is such workaround, I think it should be enabled by default while
> > upstream don't fix the bug.
> >
> > []'s
> > Marcelo
>
> Filled in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=239409

Thanks, later today I'll sign up this bug and add some info.

[]'s
Marcelo

[oleksandr korneta]

on 05/04/2007 10:58 PM oleksandr korneta wrote:
> on 05/02/2007 10:22 AM Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > This is a very old bug in XOrg that has not been fixed till now. A workaround 
> > you may use is adding the following line to the InputDevice section of 
> > your /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
> > Option      "XkbOptions" "altwin:meta_win"
>
> this works indeed Marcelo, thanks a lot. I'll stay with this method
> until they fix the bug *hoping*

well, seems like I rushed too much. Just rebooted the machine again and
lost my Win key. Using the old method.