Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 09:57 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it.
That's a general problem with the inkjet technology. That, and wasting lots of ink in their cleaning cycle before they'll print. I've got an all-in-one that insists on wasting several minutes cleaning the heads even if I just want to use the scanner by itself.
I've not heard of any that don't behave like that (clogging and ink wasting), and was advised to just print something once a week or so, whether you needed to, or not. Print a small shopping list, bank statement, something like that.
For printing I use an old HP LaserJet. HP has been one of the better manufacturers for producing hardware that worked on Linux. Any that have built in networking and support postscript is a promising sign of being usable (e.g. search for those models first, then see if you can find Linux info).
I believe some people have good luck with the Brother brand, too.
Now that Macs use CUPs for printing, it should be easier to find a printer that works with Linux.
On Wed, 07 Jul 2021 02:05:25 +0930 Tim via users wrote:
I believe some people have good luck with the Brother brand, too.
My ancient Brother is going strong, and even prints nice and crisp again since I recently replaced both of the "consumable" cartridges. But it is just a printer, not an all-in-one.
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 09:57:47AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
If replacing your current unit, I suggest exploring color laser technology instead of ink jet. May not be that much more expensive and the printer can sit at idle power with no problems.
I'd recommend one that has network connectivity and does PostScript (or manufacturer's emulation, like Brother's BR-3).
On 7/6/21 10:19 AM, Jon LaBadie wrote:
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 09:57:47AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
If replacing your current unit, I suggest exploring color laser technology instead of ink jet. May not be that much more expensive and the printer can sit at idle power with no problems.
I'd recommend one that has network connectivity and does PostScript (or manufacturer's emulation, like Brother's BR-3).
If you go with a color laser, be aware that the toner cartridges they send (starter toner) is only 10% filled and you will run out very quickly.
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 12:32 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
If you go with a color laser, be aware that the toner cartridges they send (starter toner) is only 10% filled and you will run out very quickly.
Bloody hell! How do these companies get away with such crapola?
I only use an older b&w laser, but I buy the normal refills for (which ain't cheap). Plenty of shops offer you cheap refilled/refurbished ones, but I've had bad experiences with crappy toner and worn out drums. Mine's an office printer, with very high capacity, and built to survive heavy usage. With thousands of pages, and many years life out of the toner cartridge (since I don't print anywhere near that many).
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On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 12:32 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
If you go with a color laser, be aware that the toner cartridges they send (starter toner) is only 10% filled and you will run out very quickly.
Bloody hell! How do these companies get away with such crapola?
I only use an older b&w laser, but I buy the normal refills for (which ain't cheap). Plenty of shops offer you cheap refilled/refurbished ones, but I've had bad experiences with crappy toner and worn out drums. Mine's an office printer, with very high capacity, and built to survive heavy usage. With thousands of pages, and many years life out of the toner cartridge (since I don't print anywhere near that many).
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This is common practice for decades... ;-( For major companies, it's their business model: Sort;y after introduction printer-prices drop like a brick, and all loss they think they should compensate through the sale of toner & ink. Hence they tried hindering competition by adding (essential) ID-chips into replacement cartridges. Or check the amount of printed pages, to frustrate ink-refillers. I believe after a court-session HP &Co had to abandon this, but still printers check if genuine cartridges, or alternatives have been used. And if you ever need them to do a repair-job (even within guarantee period) you can guess how they reply.
Years ago (at the time of my Deskjet 970Cxi) I was told that ink was more precious than heroin.
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On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600 Greg Woods greg@gregandeva.net wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
In one of my previous jobs, we are using a cron entry, to print a test page once a day.
BR, Bob
Greg Woods writes:
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I think that a laser printer is going to be the best bet here, and I'm wondering the same thing, actually. I'd settle down for only a scanner, since my laserjet m118dw worked out of the box, after pointing hplip in its direction. But an all-in-one would work too.
I did some searching over the weekend, and there's some conflicting information on HP's multifunction devices. HP's site:
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/in...
This seems to suggest that hplip can configure most of their MFP with sane. However, over at sane:
http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
This shows very, very scant HP support. Who should I believe?
I've been unable to find anything else on the intertubes that talks about the trials and tribulation of such an endeavor. And I do not see Fedora's hplip package install anything that might suggest a sane driver. Maybe when it sees a supported scanner or MFP it dumps something, somewhere, where sane sees it.
Maybe HP's stuff works so well, that there's no reason for anyone to say much about it, it just works.
Another data point that raises a shadow of suspicion on the quality of hplip's documentation: according to HP's web site my M118dw is a color laser printer. That's news to me, and to the best of my abilities I've yet to locate any color cartridges inside the chassis.
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 17:18:19 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
This shows very, very scant HP support. Who should I believe?
I've pretty much given up on linux and scanning. My current all-in-one Epson Artisan 725 claimed to have a linux driver, but it never worked. I do all my scanning on a windows (the Epson is a network device) virtual machine, and save the scanned images to a samba share hosted on the fedora system where I actually want the scans.
On 2021-07-06 at 17:36:13 Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 17:18:19 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote:
This shows very, very scant HP support. Who should I believe?
I've pretty much given up on linux and scanning. My current all-in-one Epson Artisan 725 claimed to have a linux driver, but it never worked. I do all my scanning on a windows (the Epson is a network device) virtual machine, and save the scanned images to a samba share hosted on the fedora system where I actually want the scans.
Have you tried VueScan? https://www.hamrick.com/
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 17:36 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
I've pretty much given up on linux and scanning. My current all-in- one Epson Artisan 725 claimed to have a linux driver, but it never worked. I do all my scanning on a windows (the Epson is a network device) virtual machine, and save the scanned images to a samba share hosted on the fedora system where I actually want the scans.
I have an Canon Pixma all-in-one, that I really only bought as it could print onto DVDs (I work in video production, and be able to give a client a nicely labelled disc is a good thing). As an inkjet printer it's so-so, so I use a HP laser for real printing on paper, and both are directly supported by CUPs. The scanner is okay, but I had to install scangear to use the scanner, from Canon's own website. It's childishly basic software, and okay for my general needs (e.g. scan a document and email someone a copy), but would be useless for someone who wanted good graphical scanning of photos (there's NO image controls, at all).
For what it's worth, even on a Mac, which the Pixma fully supports, the scanning software is woeful. I don't use Windows, so I can't compare.
I still have an ancient Mustek standalone scanner, that was fully supported by SANE, and you could do all the manual tweaking you wanted even though the cheap scanner wasn't all that brilliant. It was some generic scanner that was sold under a variety of different brandnames.
Unless you really want an all-in-one, then separates are usually the better way to go. Better supported, and when just one part of the hardware dies, you only need to replace that one. Even some all-in-one devices couldn't directly print what they scanned, the computer had to do it for them. Though that's less prevalent, these days.
And in my case, the unavoidable greater-than two-minutes print cleaning routine when I merely want to scan a page to file, is damn annoying. I dare say that when the ink runs dry (without even being used), it'll probably refuse to scan documents.
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Tom Horsley wrote:
I've pretty much given up on linux and scanning. My current all-in-one Epson Artisan 725 claimed to have a linux driver, but it never worked. I do all my scanning on a windows (the Epson is a network device) virtual machine, and save the scanned images to a samba share hosted on the fedora system where I actually want the scans.
I have an HP Photosmart that scans just fine under F33. 'Tis only used for scanning because I got tired of having to buy new cartridges every time I wanted to print.
My Brother printer is BW-only because I did not want to pay for laser color.
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have an HP Photosmart that scans just fine under F33.
Actually, out of curiosity, I tried xsane again after assuming it was hopeless for the last few years. It actually recognized my old Epson Artisan 725 and can scan things now (who knew?).
The Epson is basically just a scanner now, since the inkjet is hopeless after not being used very much.
The scanner also works better now since I found a maintenance manual online and figured out how to get the top of the scanner off so I could clean years worth of out-gassing fog off the inside of the glass :-).
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 17:09 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
The scanner also works better now since I found a maintenance manual online and figured out how to get the top of the scanner off so I could clean years worth of out-gassing fog off the inside of the glass :-).
I had to periodically clean ants out of my old scanner. For some reason they were attracted into it.
Yep, there was plenty of bugs in my old scanner.
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:09:12 -0400 Tom Horsley horsley1953@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 15:54:16 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote:
I have an HP Photosmart that scans just fine under F33.
Actually, out of curiosity, I tried xsane again after assuming it was hopeless for the last few years. It actually recognized my old Epson Artisan 725 and can scan things now (who knew?).
The Epson is basically just a scanner now, since the inkjet is hopeless after not being used very much.
The scanner also works better now since I found a maintenance manual online and figured out how to get the top of the scanner off so I could clean years worth of out-gassing fog off the inside of the glass :-).
Canon Inkjet cannot be used without working printing part. Forgot the model. M-something. It means, even empty cartridge will prevent using scanner. You can find a lot of funny videos about that on YT. Our family scraped 3. They was bought by my son of law. He is a type of a customer they can count on. :-) BR, Bob
On Wed, 2021-07-14 at 12:20 +0200, Bob Marcan wrote:
Canon Inkjet cannot be used without working printing part. Forgot the model. M-something. It means, even empty cartridge will prevent using scanner. You can find a lot of funny videos about that on YT. Our family scraped 3. They was bought by my son of law. He is a type of a customer they can count on. :-)
Back when I had an HP Deskjet 600 it wouldn't print unless the black and the tri-colour cartridges had some ink in it. I rarely ever used colour, so it was mostly wasted by unavoidable cleaning routines and drying out.
I ended up junking the printer, but I've often wondered if I'd pulled out the colour cartridge and left it soaking in water, whether it would have hydrated it enough to fool the printer into thinking it wasn't empty.
They couldn't be refilled, they were sealed. If you drilled a hole in and tried a third-party refill, the tank would just empty out overnight because it wasn't airtight anymore (even when you did your best to seal it). It's expansion airvent was at the bottom of the tank, just to be a bastard. That was a messy discovery.
Even if you don't have ink tank problems, most printers eventually get you with a filled up cleaning tank (where the ejected ink during cleaning, and parking is collected). They're often buried, have no access without complete disassembly, and no spare parts are available.
Some (maybe all) laser toner cartridges have a similar issue. The toner is spread on the drum, exposed and the bits that will print have toner clinging on them, the bits that will be blank also have toner but not statically adhered to the drum. That wasted toner is collected somewhere, usually in some other compartment of the supply toner, but some systems may have a separate waste hopper. It could actually be used to print with, but it's not available for use.
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 09:57 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I have a wireless Brother laser all-in-one that I use on a daily basis and has been working since 2014 on Fedora. You just download a tarfile from their support page and run it to set the thing up. Both scanner and printer work.
poc
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 22:31:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I have a wireless Brother laser all-in-one that I use on a daily basis and has been working since 2014 on Fedora. You just download a tarfile from their support page and run it to set the thing up. Both scanner and printer work.
I just looked on the brother web site earlier today and all their all-in-one laser systems are listed as "out of stock" :-).
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 17:37 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jul 2021 22:31:35 +0100 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I have a wireless Brother laser all-in-one that I use on a daily basis and has been working since 2014 on Fedora. You just download a tarfile from their support page and run it to set the thing up. Both scanner and printer work.
I just looked on the brother web site earlier today and all their all-in-one laser systems are listed as "out of stock" :-).
I got mine from Amazon, where I also get 3rd-party replacement toner cartridges.
poc
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 22:31 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2021-07-06 at 09:57 -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I have a wireless Brother laser all-in-one that I use on a daily basis and has been working since 2014 on Fedora. You just download a tarfile from their support page and run it to set the thing up. Both scanner and printer work.
Further to the above, if you don´t actually require colour printing (and almost no-one really does) there is no upside to getting an ink- jet printer. Monochrome lasers are more reliable and cheaper in the long run.
poc
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 16:35 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Further to the above, if you don´t actually require colour printing (and almost no-one really does) there is no upside to getting an ink- jet printer. Monochrome lasers are more reliable and cheaper in the long run.
I tend to agree. In the early days there were B&W-only inkjet printers that were reasonable (for their time), with easily refillable ink tanks.
Any time I'd looked into the costs of printing photos, it was always cheaper to have them printed properly rather than do them yourself. The ink isn't cheap, the tanks are tiny, and decent photo paper was expensive, too.
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600 Greg Woods greg@gregandeva.net wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
I gave up on ink jet printers because of this.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I currently have an HP Color LaserJet MFP M477fdw. It prints great from Fedora, CentOS, Mac OS, iOS, MS Windows, and Android. I usually scan to e-mail or USB disk. I can also scan over the network from Fedora 34 with xsane and airscan.
Jim
Am 07.07.2021 um 00:33 schrieb James Szinger jszinger@gmail.com:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600 Greg Woods greg@gregandeva.net wrote:
Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I currently have an HP Color LaserJet MFP M477fdw. It prints great from Fedora, CentOS, Mac OS, iOS, MS Windows, and Android. I usually scan to e-mail or USB disk. I can also scan over the network from Fedora 34 with xsane and airscan.
From my experience of about 30 years the HP software support or multifunction laser printers is really superb and works smoothly. There is no difference to inkjet devices. For that reason I avoid any of the cheaper laser printer alternatives. It’s not worth the headache and the time to spend resolving issues. For heavy load and quality requirements Lexmark is an alternative.
A problem is when you want to print borderless, often required for graphic printing or photos. This does not work technically. You have to take oversized paper and crop it afterwards. Desirable precision can be a challenge.
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 07:55:21 +0200 Peter Boy pboy@uni-bremen.de wrote:
Am 07.07.2021 um 00:33 schrieb James Szinger jszinger@gmail.com:
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:57:47 -0600 Greg Woods greg@gregandeva.net wrote:
Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
I currently have an HP Color LaserJet MFP M477fdw. It prints great from Fedora, CentOS, Mac OS, iOS, MS Windows, and Android. I usually scan to e-mail or USB disk. I can also scan over the network from Fedora 34 with xsane and airscan.
From my experience of about 30 years the HP software support or multifunction laser printers is really superb and works smoothly. There is no difference to inkjet devices. For that reason I avoid any of the cheaper laser printer alternatives. It’s not worth the headache and the time to spend resolving issues. For heavy load and quality requirements Lexmark is an alternative.
My current HP support “driverless” printing with all the smarts on the printer. All the devices I list above just discover it on the network and print without installing additional software. A previous DeskJet became trash when HP didn’t update the drivers to support the latest MacOS. Well, that and the clogged nozzles.
I also had a Lexmark that died after only 8 years of light home use. I hope the current LaserJet lasts as long as the previous ones.
Jim
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 12:58, Greg Woods greg@gregandeva.net wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from
Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all
that
much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few
months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's
cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not
much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning
kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer
from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of
the
all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora
Linux?
I have 2 Cannon inkjets. One (MG 7520) is used heavily for B&W, rarely for color, and an MP510 used when the 7520 isn't working due to some wifi issue (like when POE switch for the AP's died) or when waiting on a replacement ink cartridge. MP510 is quite old, so Cannon may have found a way to fix the "to reliable, doesn't die the day after warranty expires" bug. I use high quality 3rd party ink cartridges when I can get them. I live in Nova Scotia, so it is humid except in winter (and in recent years when "winter" has gone from good sledding to freezing rain here). If you live in a dry area head clogging may be worse.
You might consider making a practice of printing the "test" page periodically. I'm finding there is a log of churn in printer drivers across all platforms. The last time wifi went out I the MP510 wasn't working in Fedora (print job active but never printed, so I used a Window 10 system). I had to remove and reconfigure the MP510 in Fedora 33, so now I'm thinking I need to print a test page from time to time to make sure it will be available when needed.
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 11:51 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
now I'm thinking I need to print a test page from time to time to make sure it will be available when needed.
CRON job of things to do; print this test page
On 7/6/21 8:57 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
Gave up on inkjets due to clogging issues with low usage. Went with HP M283cdw. Color, scanner, copier, fax, and prints from a USB thumbdrive. There are cheaper models but this one was on sale. Toner cartridges are expensive but my utilization is low so the cost will be painful once every two years or so.
This model has WiFi connection as well as USB. Working currently with Fedora 34, Mint 20 (Ulyssa) aka Ubuntu, and Windows 10
I also have an older HP LaserJet 1200 that will not die. Only got the M283 because I needed the scanner and color.
HTH
-- ~~R
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:38 -0700, Richard England wrote:
Gave up on inkjets due to clogging issues with low usage. Went with HP M283cdw. Color, scanner, copier, fax, and prints from a USB thumbdrive.
Have you ever tried printing from a file on a USB drive?
My HP P3015 printer also offers that feature, but I found that it required you to prepare a PDF file using their special software on a PC. It won't print other PDF files. It's a sneakernet option, rather than general purpose.
On July 10, 2021 at 5:38 PM Richard England pdx.limey@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/6/21 8:57 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
/snip/ Question #2
is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
Gave up on inkjets due to clogging issues with low usage. Went with HP M283cdw. Color, scanner, copier, fax, and prints from a USB thumbdrive. There are cheaper models but this one was on sale. Toner cartridges are expensive but my utilization is low so the cost will be painful once every two years or so.
This model has WiFi connection as well as USB. Working currently with Fedora 34, Mint 20 (Ulyssa) aka Ubuntu, and Windows 10> -- ~~R
Will the scanner work with the XSANE app? I like that because it has various definitions which can be set so as to save ink/toner for low definition requirements, and then hi def for the occasions that require it. Using an Epson all-in-one, but I may be looking for a replacement-- got hit by lightning a few days ago, and a lot of electronic stuff is now junk! (Have not yet checked the Epson--the router got killed in the blast!) --doug
On 7/13/21 4:50 PM, mcgarrett wrote:
On July 10, 2021 at 5:38 PM Richard England pdx.limey@gmail.com wrote:
On 7/6/21 8:57 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
/snip/ Question #2
is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
Gave up on inkjets due to clogging issues with low usage. Went with HP M283cdw. Color, scanner, copier, fax, and prints from a USB thumbdrive. There are cheaper models but this one was on sale. Toner cartridges are expensive but my utilization is low so the cost will be painful once every two years or so.
This model has WiFi connection as well as USB. Working currently with Fedora 34, Mint 20 (Ulyssa) aka Ubuntu, and Windows 10> -- ~~R
Will the scanner work with the XSANE app? I like that because it has various definitions which can be set so as to save ink/toner for low definition requirements, and then hi def for the occasions that require it. Using an Epson all-in-one, but I may be looking for a replacement-- got hit by lightning a few days ago, and a lot of electronic stuff is now junk! (Have not yet checked the Epson--the router got killed in the blast!) --doug
Ouch. Sounds like a major hit. Sorry to hear that.
The HP M283cdw works with XSane very well. I create multi-page PDFs directly using the scanner and XSane. Also works with gscan2pdf and the GIMP direct scan (via sane)
My wife uses the HP scanning app on her Windows box over wifi with no problem.
~~R
On 06/07/2021 09:57, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
After reading the thread, I will go with a laser. I have had so many issues with ink jets and one of the new issues that I didn't see mentioned in this thread are printers that won't work with expired ink. Even though the ink cartridge is full, the printer refuses to use it.
I also suggest laser and we have two HP lasers. Since the life of lasers is so long, when we purchased one for our university student, we got a commercial one with full duplex for both printing and scanning. With COVID-19, they were doing more printing but still using the original cartridges. It was in stock and on sale.
We have an older HP 400 printer and with HPLIP and the HP scanner plugin, from HP, we have no issues using XSane as long as the plugin is up to date. My only issue I had was I had set the scanner for duplex and didn't even know at that time it did duplex. :)
As for cartridges, this is where the laser is better. They have long shelf lives. We purchase directly from HP and may do it once a year. They have some great specials at times.
Our other student purchased a cheap Samsung laser printer and it just worked with an older version Fedora.
I have spent so much money on ink jets in the past to replace them for multiple reasons. Spent less money on laser cartridges than would have on ink over the years.
We use HP and Xerox printers at work.
Robin
On July 14, 2021 at 4:48 PM Robin Laing mesat@telusplanet.net wrote:
On 06/07/2021 09:57, Greg Woods wrote:
Well, not completely OT because I do need one that will work on Fedora.
I have found a number of ink jet all-in-ones that work well on Fedora, from Epson, HP, and Brother. The problem is that I don't use the printer all that much, and every single one of them eventually (after I've had it for a few months) develops a head clog that is so bad that not even the printer's cleaning cycle can fix it. I have tried some of the cleaning kits with not much success (I'm a lousy handyman), and even if I could get the cleaning kits to work, I'd rather find a printer where I can avoid this headache.
So, is there any such thing as an all-in-one ink jet printer that does not suffer from this problem if it is not used regularly? Question #2 is, are any of the all-in-one laser printers any good and work (all functions) with Fedora Linux?
Thanks, --Greg
/snip/ Just a note of warning for ink-jet users: Quite a few years ago, I had an ink-jet printer--I don't remember the name--and I thought I'd save some money by buying a cheap replacement ink cartridge. Well, it clogged up the works, and I could not fix it. I had to throw the printer out! So go with the manufacturer's ink, even if it is expensive. It's cheaper than a new printer! For HP LaserJets: I think, altho I'm not sure, that off-brand toners will not work in an HP machine. I think they code their cartridges. Anyone know better? --doug
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