(f31, gnome)
Starting with the upgrade to f31 earlier this month. "Files" (Nautilus) no longer displays names of folders and files. I have made a screen capture available here: "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hh_G48m8bm-XWwMIR3mA_jJp9CJ75SvC/view?usp=s...". I have done 2 weekly patches since the upgrade; the problem persists. I've checked the man page, and the web page referenced by the man page. No clues. I've checked the preferences; there is nothing there that would affect this. I've checked the "Help". Nothing relevant. I've checked the instructions for upgrading to f31; nothing relevant.
How did upgrading to f31 break this, and how do I make the folder/file names visible?
Try highlight on one of the icons. I am guessing whatever color scheme you are using has the font color defined as white.
I am not sure where that is really set. I can see at least a theme setup in gnome-tweaks -> appearance, I don't see were you can define specific colors mappings.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:33 PM home user mattisonw@comcast.net wrote:
(f31, gnome)
Starting with the upgrade to f31 earlier this month. "Files" (Nautilus) no longer displays names of folders and files. I have made a screen capture available here: "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hh_G48m8bm-XWwMIR3mA_jJp9CJ75SvC/view?usp=s...". I have done 2 weekly patches since the upgrade; the problem persists. I've checked the man page, and the web page referenced by the man page. No clues. I've checked the preferences; there is nothing there that would affect this. I've checked the "Help". Nothing relevant. I've checked the instructions for upgrading to f31; nothing relevant.
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Try highlight on one of the icons. I am guessing whatever color scheme you are using has the font color defined as white.
I assume that by "highlighting", you mean "selecting". That does make the selected item's name visible. But when a directory has many items, that still makes finding the desired item(s) tedious.
I am not sure where that is really set. I can see at least a theme setup in gnome-tweaks -> appearance, I don't see were you can define specific colors mappings.
The "Tweaks" tool shows the theme for "Applications" set to "Adwaita-dark", same as before upgrading to f31. "Files" was fine before the upgrade. I deliberately chose a theme with a dark background and light text; it's easier on my eyes. I can try other themes, but that doesn't change that something seems to be broken in f31. It seems to me that something in f31 is not handling backgrounds properly. The xeyes problem that I noted in another thread earlier this month also seems to be a background issue. Has anyone else seen these or similar problems? Is this a legitimate bug? Should I submit a bug in the Redhat Fedora Bugzilla?
It is not a bug on my f31 system.. I flipped through each of the themes and mine all showed the names correctly.
There is probably some random setting hanging around from no telling how many years ago that you may have set in the past to fix some color issue (assuming you messed around with the lower level tools in the past to fix the past issues and limitations, I know I did) and is now being used as the color for the fonts for some reason. you may be able to see something in gconf-editor, though the tool is not the easiest thing to use, it has all the usability of windows regedit.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 3:10 PM home user mattisonw@comcast.net wrote:
Try highlight on one of the icons. I am guessing whatever color scheme you are using has the font color defined as white.
I assume that by "highlighting", you mean "selecting". That does make the selected item's name visible. But when a directory has many items, that still makes finding the desired item(s) tedious.
I am not sure where that is really set. I can see at least a theme setup in gnome-tweaks -> appearance, I don't see were you can define specific colors mappings.
The "Tweaks" tool shows the theme for "Applications" set to "Adwaita-dark", same as before upgrading to f31. "Files" was fine before the upgrade. I deliberately chose a theme with a dark background and light text; it's easier on my eyes. I can try other themes, but that doesn't change that something seems to be broken in f31. It seems to me that something in f31 is not handling backgrounds properly. The xeyes problem that I noted in another thread earlier this month also seems to be a background issue. Has anyone else seen these or similar problems? Is this a legitimate bug? Should I submit a bug in the Redhat Fedora Bugzilla? _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 4/27/20 2:40 PM, Roger Heflin wrote:
It is not a bug on my f31 system.. I flipped through each of the themes and mine all showed the names correctly.
There is probably some random setting hanging around from no telling how many years ago that you may have set in the past to fix some color issue (assuming you messed around with the lower level tools in the past to fix the past issues and limitations, I know I did) and is now being used as the color for the fonts for some reason. you may be able to see something in gconf-editor, though the tool is not the easiest thing to use, it has all the usability of windows regedit.
It's dconf-editor and it is much better than regedit since it uses schemas so you know the types and for a lot of entries you can actually pick from a list of valid options. However, it is still a power user tool and not something a typical user would want to or need to use.
Let's start over (sort-of). In his signature, Ed says "The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.". True, but not complete. Good observations and evidence are needed also. It did not occur to me try certain things; and it did not occur to me that some things that I did notice could be relevant.
The problem with the "Files" (Nautilus) display is *not* the text color. The problem is the *background* color. With the theme set to "Adwaita-dark", the background should be dark gray. My apologies for not saying that before now.
I brought xeyes into this discussion because with both Files and xeyes, the symptoms are background, and in both cases, the problems started with the upgrade to f31. I thought that they could be related.
I spent a lot of time and effort researching and experimenting. I have 4 accounts on my workstation: the root account, an admin account, and 2 user accounts. Here's what I've found: - In gnome, the Files display is what it should be in 3 of the 4 accounts, but wrong in the user account I use most of the time. - In gnome, xeyes misbehaves in all 4 accounts. - In plasma, xeyes behaves correctly in all 4 accounts. - In plasma, the Files display is fine in all 4 accounts. You can view the bad Files display here: "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hh_G48m8bm-XWwMIR3mA_jJp9CJ75SvC/view?usp=s...". I got a screen capture of what the Files display should look like while experimenting in the other user account (the one I rarely use). You can view that here: "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gcdcR0-erP-4v4pO_-usfTHdVkn-q8dr/view?usp=s...".
All personalizations, customizations, preferences, etc. that I've done were done with the high level GUI tools provided by the desktop environments (Settings, KDE System Settings, Tweaks, etc.), never with gconf-editor, dconf-editor, or any brute-force method.
I read the man pages and web sites I found for gconf-editor and dconf-editor. They did not tell me enough. Samuel is correct. The gconf-editor is deprecated. I did try the dconf-editor. It did not seem to offer me anything useful beyond the settings and tweak tools, and was difficult to use.
I now believe the Files problem is not a bug. The xeyes problem still could be a bug (in gnome? in underlying graphics software? in xorg-x11-apps?).
Most of the research/experimenting I did seemed like groping around in the dark. I could really use some good suggestions on how to get Files to display correctly, with a dark background in user account that I use almost all of the time. I'm now clueless on where to look and what to look for. And any ideas on the xeyes problems?
Thank-you in advance. Bill.
On 2020-04-29 05:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-04-29 01:03, home user wrote:
- In plasma, the Files display is fine in all 4 accounts.
Correction: I re-checked. Plasma does not offer the "Adwaita-dark" theme.
It does, on my F32KDE system.
And F31 as well.
On 2020-04-29 08:27, home user wrote:
On 2020-04-29 05:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
And F31 as well.
How do I get to it? I selected plasma during sign-in, went into kde system settings, and saw only a few choices. Neither Adwaita nor Adwaita-dark was available. I did this with both of my user accounts.
I don't recall how it got installed on my KDE system but seems to be included in adwaita-gtk2-theme and gnome-themes-extra for gtk3.
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