Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
on 6/26/2007 10:18 AM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
Look at the TB extension named ConfigDate.
Also: The 'button' on the far right of line allows you to set what is in the line.
Do you know that the size of the chosen display areas is drag left/right adjustable?
David Boles wrote:
on 6/26/2007 10:18 AM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
Look at the TB extension named ConfigDate.
Also: The 'button' on the far right of line allows you to set what is in the line.
Do you know that the size of the chosen display areas is drag left/right adjustable?
Yes, I am quite familiar with Thunderbird and the configuration options. But I have always had a problem with the tiny scroll point on the scroll bar and the need for 24 hour listing of time.
I have spent considerable time playing with about:config in Firefox and Preferences - Advanced - Advanced Configuration - Config Editor in Thunderbird to no avail.
I will look at "ConfigDate." Thank you.
Bob Goodwin
David Boles wrote:
on 6/26/2007 10:18 AM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
Look at the TB extension named ConfigDate.
Also: The 'button' on the far right of line allows you to set what is in the line.
Do you know that the size of the chosen display areas is drag left/right adjustable?
Doesn't seem to work in TB 2.0.0.4 (don't remember if it worked ever). The extension preference window shows sample time in 24hr format, but on the messages the time is in 12hr format, still.
David Boles wrote:
on 6/26/2007 10:18 AM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
Look at the TB extension named ConfigDate.
Also: The 'button' on the far right of line allows you to set what is in the line.
Do you know that the size of the chosen display areas is drag left/right adjustable?
ConfigDate is nice in that it shows the time of origination with 24 hour time and an offset such as -0400 in the header but it still doesn't fix the dumb AM/PM in the message listing which remains in 12 hour time.
There must be a way to change that since most places in the world do not use that form of time notation?
Anyway I like the extension ...
Bob Goodwin
on 6/26/2007 3:23 PM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
David Boles wrote:
on 6/26/2007 10:18 AM, Bob Goodwin - W2BOD wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
Bob Goodwin
Look at the TB extension named ConfigDate.
Also: The 'button' on the far right of line allows you to set what is in the line.
Do you know that the size of the chosen display areas is drag left/right adjustable?
ConfigDate is nice in that it shows the time of origination with 24 hour time and an offset such as -0400 in the header but it still doesn't fix the dumb AM/PM in the message listing which remains in 12 hour time.
There must be a way to change that since most places in the world do not use that form of time notation?
Anyway I like the extension ...
Bob Goodwin
Sorry that this does not do what you need. I did not see anything about what you are describing. There is a Thunderbird list, like this one, and a TBird forum. You might ask there. If it can not be done you could put a RFE in the Mozilla Bugzilla asking for this.
On 27-06-07 02:26, David Boles wrote:
Bob Goodwin - W2BOD bobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
It depends on your locale settings how applications from Mozilla.org (Firefox, Thunderbird etc.) display the date. If you prefer ISO-8601 format, use the special locale named "en_DK". For example, UTF-8 users may set "LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8; export LC_TIME" before running Mozilla.org applications. If you only want to change date format in Thunderbird I'd recommend a shell alias or a small wrapper script.
See also http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format for further details. (You'll find a lot of cool tips & tricks in MozillaZine.)
Hope it helps ... Andreas
That's not a very good approach... I'm using the en_US locale, but always customize my clock output to display in 24hr format. KDE allows me to do this. I don't really like how Thunderbird thinks it's smarter than I.
Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote:
Bob Goodwin - W2BOD bobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
Does anyone know how to get Thunderbird to use 24 hour time when listing email "Date?"
I use a large font and need the space that the stupid AM/PM takes for useful [to me] information!
I know this is may not be a Fedora question but ...
It depends on your locale settings how applications from Mozilla.org (Firefox, Thunderbird etc.) display the date. If you prefer ISO-8601 format, use the special locale named "en_DK". For example, UTF-8 users may set "LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8; export LC_TIME" before running Mozilla.org applications. If you only want to change date format in Thunderbird I'd recommend a shell alias or a small wrapper script.
See also http://kb.mozillazine.org/Date_display_format for further details. (You'll find a lot of cool tips & tricks in MozillaZine.)
Hope it helps ... Andreas
Hi.
After reading the thread about 24 hour time in Thunderbird, I decided to make some experiments with date and time formats. I have wished for a long time to set the date format to use ISO-8601 and to use a 24 hour clock, but how to do this hasn't been obvious.
I started by running Thunderbird with LC_TIME set to sv_SE.utf8, and sure, it showed date and time in the expected format. I then figured I'd check 'ls -l'. I was (very) surprised to see that ls -l now gives the date in ISO-8601 format, even though my LANG has the value 'en_US.UTF-8'. Substituting US for UK changed to the traditional format.
Why does LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 give american date/time format in Thunderbird, but ISO-8601 format in 'ls -l'? And the same applies to sv_SE.UTF-8, which gives ISO-8601 format in Thunderbird, but another format in 'ls -l'. I'm really lost here.
This computer runs Fedora 7 with all updates up to today's batch. My physical locale is Sweden, with a Swedish keyboard, but my system language is English (which I wish to keep).
$ env | egrep '(LANG|LC)' LANG=en_US.UTF-8
Regards Ingemar
Ingemar Nilsson wrote:
Hi.
After reading the thread about 24 hour time in Thunderbird, I decided to make some experiments with date and time formats. I have wished for a long time to set the date format to use ISO-8601 and to use a 24 hour clock, but how to do this hasn't been obvious.
I started by running Thunderbird with LC_TIME set to sv_SE.utf8, and sure, it showed date and time in the expected format. I then figured I'd check 'ls -l'. I was (very) surprised to see that ls -l now gives the date in ISO-8601 format, even though my LANG has the value 'en_US.UTF-8'. Substituting US for UK changed to the traditional format.
Why does LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8 give american date/time format in Thunderbird, but ISO-8601 format in 'ls -l'? And the same applies to sv_SE.UTF-8, which gives ISO-8601 format in Thunderbird, but another format in 'ls -l'. I'm really lost here.
This computer runs Fedora 7 with all updates up to today's batch. My physical locale is Sweden, with a Swedish keyboard, but my system language is English (which I wish to keep).
$ env | egrep '(LANG|LC)' LANG=en_US.UTF-8
Regards Ingemar
Like you I want my system to display ISO-8601 date formats as a default. Even those applications that grab the date format from the "system" date.
I was surprised that F7 shows "ls -l" as ISO format by default. Not related to the LANG variable from what I have seen.
As for changing the date format, I have not had much success and I have made a request for a tool to do such. It would be nice if there was a TZ file for US-ISO. Or better yet, a tool to create a custom TZ file from what the user wants to use.