mtp devices

[JD]

When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
internal storage
sd card

however, mount command does not show them mounted.

I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.

How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?

When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is 
displayed as
mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
and sd card is displayed as
mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card

Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 15:46 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
> pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
> internal storage
> sd card
>
> however, mount command does not show them mounted.
>
> I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.
>
> How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
>
> When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is 
> displayed as
> mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
> and sd card is displayed as
> mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card
>
> Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.

yum install simple-mtpfs

poc

[JD]

On 02/15/2015 04:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 15:46 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
> > pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
> > internal storage
> > sd card
> >
> > however, mount command does not show them mounted.
> >
> > I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.
> >
> > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> >
> > When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is
> > displayed as
> > mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
> > and sd card is displayed as
> > mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card
> >
> > Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.
>
> yum install simple-mtpfs
>
> poc

Thanx Patrick. Unfortunately, it tells me I am not privileged,
so I have to su to do the mounting. Not a big deal, but I think
that it should not require root privs.

Cheers,

JD

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 18:50 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> On 02/15/2015 04:53 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 15:46 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > > When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
> > > pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
> > > internal storage
> > > sd card
> > >
> > > however, mount command does not show them mounted.
> > >
> > > I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.
> > >
> > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> > >
> > > When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is
> > > displayed as
> > > mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
> > > and sd card is displayed as
> > > mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card
> > >
> > > Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.
> >
> > yum install simple-mtpfs
> >
> > poc
>
> Thanx Patrick. Unfortunately, it tells me I am not privileged,
> so I have to su to do the mounting. Not a big deal, but I think
> that it should not require root privs.

For some background on MTP, see the discussion at:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/440860

poc

[Sam Varshavchik]

Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
> On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 15:46 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
> > pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
> > internal storage
> > sd card
> >
> > however, mount command does not show them mounted.
> >
> > I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.
> >
> > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> >
> > When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is
> > displayed as
> > mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
> > and sd card is displayed as
> > mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card
> >
> > Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.
>
> yum install simple-mtpfs

This won't work, of course, if your USB device is really a USB storage  
device that Gnome has decided, for some dumb reason, is really an MTP only  
device.

This is what F21's Gnome decided my MP3 player was. After updating to F21, I  
could not mount my MP3 player any more. What was, for several years, a USB  
storage device, was now allegedly an MTP device. Which works as well as you  
can probably expect.

After I received no response to my bug report, I simply bit the bullet and  
switched my last workstation to XFCE. Unlike Gnome, F21's XFCE desktop can  
mount my MP3 player just fine, with no issues.

[JD]

On 02/16/2015 06:30 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan writes:
> > On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 15:46 -0700, jd1008 wrote:
> > > When I connect my phone via usb, gnome (or more exactly, mate)
> > > pops up a window which displays 2 icons named:
> > > internal storage
> > > sd card
> > >
> > > however, mount command does not show them mounted.
> > >
> > > I want to browse them via the terminal cli interface.
> > >
> > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> > >
> > > When I click on internal storage icon, the pathname in the gui is
> > > displayed as
> > > mtp://[usb:002,005]/Internal%20storage
> > > and sd card is displayed as
> > > mtp://[usb:002,005]/SD%20Card
> > >
> > > Thanx for any info on how to achieve what I want to do.
> >
> > yum install simple-mtpfs
>
> This won't work, of course, if your USB device is really a USB storage 
> device that Gnome has decided, for some dumb reason, is really an MTP 
> only device.
>
> This is what F21's Gnome decided my MP3 player was. After updating to 
> F21, I could not mount my MP3 player any more. What was, for several 
> years, a USB storage device, was now allegedly an MTP device. Which 
> works as well as you can probably expect.
>
> After I received no response to my bug report, I simply bit the bullet 
> and switched my last workstation to XFCE. Unlike Gnome, F21's XFCE 
> desktop can mount my MP3 player just fine, with no issues.

In my case then, it is mate DT that is the guilty party.
I am loath to switch to xfce or lxde just for the darned phone.
I am certainly no happy with the directions that DT's seem
to be heading.
One solution I found is that I have a flash reader/writer usb adapter
and that gets mounted like traditional flash disks.
I can remove the flash from the phone and put it in the adapter
and slip it into my laptop's usb port.

Cheers,

JD

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?

Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP (installed by 
default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file system in your /run folder:

/run/user/$UID/gvfs

[JD]

On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
>
> Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP 
> (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file 
> system in your /run folder:
>
> /run/user/$UID/gvfs

Well Michael, I am a mate user, because I loath what the devs
did to gnome 3.
I hope the mate devs pick up this issue and start mounting
my phone storage the traditional way, rather than for me
to manually run simple-mtpfs

[JD]

On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
>
> Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP 
> (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file 
> system in your /run folder:
>
> /run/user/$UID/gvfs

I have these mtp packages installed
simple-mtpfs-0.2-3.fc21.x86_64
gvfs-mtp-1.22.3-2.fc21.x86_64
libmtp-1.1.8-1.fc21.x86_64

and still, pluging in my phone does automount the phone storage.

In the files
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
     contains:
     [D-BUS Service]
     Name=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
     Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor

/usr/share/gvfs/mounts/mtp.mount
      contains:
      [Mount]
      Type=mtp
      Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
      AutoMount=true

/usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/mtp.monitor
     contains:
     [RemoteVolumeMonitor]
     Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP
     DBusName=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
     IsNative=true

So, what is wrong here, such that
/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
is not executing /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
to mount the device?

[JD]

On 02/16/2015 10:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> >
> > Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP 
> > (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file 
> > system in your /run folder:
> >
> > /run/user/$UID/gvfs
>
> I have these mtp packages installed
> simple-mtpfs-0.2-3.fc21.x86_64
> gvfs-mtp-1.22.3-2.fc21.x86_64
> libmtp-1.1.8-1.fc21.x86_64
>
> and still, pluging in my phone does automount the phone storage.
>
> In the files
> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
>     contains:
>     [D-BUS Service]
>     Name=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
>     Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
>
> /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/mtp.mount
>      contains:
>      [Mount]
>      Type=mtp
>      Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
>      AutoMount=true
>
> /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/mtp.monitor
>     contains:
>     [RemoteVolumeMonitor]
>     Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP
>     DBusName=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
>     IsNative=true
>
> So, what is wrong here, such that
> /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> is not executing /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> to mount the device?

Found this page which apparently works for ubuntu, but the "tools"
are not available for fedora:

http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/268-ubuntu-automount-any-mtp-dev...

[Bob Marcan]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:14:29 -0700
jd1008  wrote:
> On 02/16/2015 10:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> > On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > > On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> > >
> > > Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP >> (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file >> system in your /run folder:
> > >
> > > /run/user/$UID/gvfs
> >
> > I have these mtp packages installed
> > simple-mtpfs-0.2-3.fc21.x86_64
> > gvfs-mtp-1.22.3-2.fc21.x86_64
> > libmtp-1.1.8-1.fc21.x86_64
> >
> > and still, pluging in my phone does automount the phone storage.
> >
> > In the files
> > /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
> >     contains:
> >     [D-BUS Service]
> >     Name=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> >     Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> >
> > /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/mtp.mount
> >      contains:
> >      [Mount]
> >      Type=mtp
> >      Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> >      AutoMount=true
> >
> > /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/mtp.monitor
> >     contains:
> >     [RemoteVolumeMonitor]
> >     Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP
> >     DBusName=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> >     IsNative=true
> >
> > So, what is wrong here, such that
> > /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> > is not executing /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> > to mount the device?
>
> Found this page which apparently works for ubuntu, but the "tools"
> are not available for fedora:
>
> http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/268-ubuntu-automount-any-mtp-dev...

autofs + simple-mtfs:

/etc/auto.master
...
/home/bob/MPT  /etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt --timeout=30 --ghost
...

/etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt
...
AnyMPT       -fstype=fuse,allow_other,umask=000     :simple-mtpfs
...

Read the fuse man page for other options.
   -fstype=fuse,transform_symlinks,uid=0,gid=0  ...

BR, Bob

[JD]

On 02/17/2015 07:14 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:14:29 -0700
> jd1008  wrote:
> > On 02/16/2015 10:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > > > On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> > > >
> > > > Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP >> (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file >> system in your /run folder:
> > > >
> > > > /run/user/$UID/gvfs
> > >
> > > I have these mtp packages installed
> > > simple-mtpfs-0.2-3.fc21.x86_64
> > > gvfs-mtp-1.22.3-2.fc21.x86_64
> > > libmtp-1.1.8-1.fc21.x86_64
> > >
> > > and still, pluging in my phone does automount the phone storage.
> > >
> > > In the files
> > > /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
> > >      contains:
> > >      [D-BUS Service]
> > >      Name=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> > >      Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> > >
> > > /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/mtp.mount
> > >       contains:
> > >       [Mount]
> > >       Type=mtp
> > >       Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> > >       AutoMount=true
> > >
> > > /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/mtp.monitor
> > >      contains:
> > >      [RemoteVolumeMonitor]
> > >      Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP
> > >      DBusName=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> > >      IsNative=true
> > >
> > > So, what is wrong here, such that
> > > /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> > > is not executing /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> > > to mount the device?
> >
> > Found this page which apparently works for ubuntu, but the "tools"
> > are not available for fedora:
> >
> > http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/268-ubuntu-automount-any-mtp-dev...
>
> autofs + simple-mtfs:
>
> /etc/auto.master
> ...
> /home/bob/MPT  /etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt --timeout=30 --ghost
> ...
>
> /etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt
> ...
> AnyMPT       -fstype=fuse,allow_other,umask=000     :simple-mtpfs
> ...
>
> Read the fuse man page for other options.
>     -fstype=fuse,transform_symlinks,uid=0,gid=0  ...
>
> BR, Bob

Thanx Bob.
I tried your suggestions.
Did not work. Nothing got mounted when I connected my phone,
not even the mtp automounter built-in to mate DT.

[Bob Marcan]

Did you try to access the directory, where it should be mounted?
nb: ls  /home/bob/MPT/AnyMPT
It will not apppear automagically under graphical file manager, 
at least mine (FileRunner), until someone will touch something inside mount point.

On my Lenovo tablet, when connected to USB, i have 3 choices:
CONNECT AS
Media device (MPT)
Camera (PTP)
Charge only

On Samsung S3 phone, there are no such choices.
Both works with this setup.
Check your device.

Another way:
Install from Google play
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arachnoid.sshelper&hl=... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arachnoid.sshelper&hl=...
Configure sshelper.

From memory:
ssh-keygen (if it doesn't exist yet)
ssh -p 2222 root@<your-device-ip>
ssh-copy-id  -p 2222 root@<your-device-ip>
Test this, so you can connect without password:
ssh -p 2222 root@<your-device-ip>

Here we are again at autofs:
/etc/auto.master
...
/home/bob/SSHFS /etc/auto.master.d/auto.sshfs --timeout=30 --ghost
...

/etc/auto.master.d/auto.sshfs
...
GalaxyS3        -fstype=fuse,rw,nodev,nonempty,noatime,max_read=65535,transform_symlinks,allow_other,reconnect,port=2222 :sshfs#galaxys3:/
Lenovo           -fstype=fuse,rw,nodev,nonempty,noatime,max_read=65535,transform_symlinks,allow_other,reconnect,port=2222 :sshfs#lenovo:/
...
To trigger automount:
nb: ls /home/bob/SSHFS/Lenovo

Hope it will help.
If it will not, please send me private mail with attached:
/etc/auto.master
/etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt.d/auto.sshfs
/etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt

BR, Bob

P.S.
My english is lousy. It's not my native language.
Don't mention the grammar. Hope you will never heard my accent :-)

[JD]

On 02/17/2015 07:14 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 11:14:29 -0700
> jd1008  wrote:
> > On 02/16/2015 10:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > On 02/16/2015 07:20 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > > > On 02/15/2015 04:46 PM, jd1008 wrote:
> > > > > How do I force mate or gnome to mount them the traditional way?
> > > >
> > > > Why? So you can access them via terminal? Just stick with gvfs MTP >> (installed by default with Gnome) and you can find the mounted file >> system in your /run folder:
> > > >
> > > > /run/user/$UID/gvfs
> > >
> > > I have these mtp packages installed
> > > simple-mtpfs-0.2-3.fc21.x86_64
> > > gvfs-mtp-1.22.3-2.fc21.x86_64
> > > libmtp-1.1.8-1.fc21.x86_64
> > >
> > > and still, pluging in my phone does automount the phone storage.
> > >
> > > In the files
> > > /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor.service
> > >      contains:
> > >      [D-BUS Service]
> > >      Name=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> > >      Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> > >
> > > /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/mtp.mount
> > >       contains:
> > >       [Mount]
> > >       Type=mtp
> > >       Exec=/usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> > >       AutoMount=true
> > >
> > > /usr/share/gvfs/remote-volume-monitors/mtp.monitor
> > >      contains:
> > >      [RemoteVolumeMonitor]
> > >      Name=GProxyVolumeMonitorMTP
> > >      DBusName=org.gtk.Private.MTPVolumeMonitor
> > >      IsNative=true
> > >
> > > So, what is wrong here, such that
> > > /usr/libexec/gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor
> > > is not executing /usr/libexec/gvfsd-mtp
> > > to mount the device?
> >
> > Found this page which apparently works for ubuntu, but the "tools"
> > are not available for fedora:
> >
> > http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/268-ubuntu-automount-any-mtp-dev...
>
> autofs + simple-mtfs:
>
> /etc/auto.master
> ...
> /home/bob/MPT  /etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt --timeout=30 --ghost
> ...
>
> /etc/auto.master.d/auto.mpt
> ...
> AnyMPT       -fstype=fuse,allow_other,umask=000     :simple-mtpfs
> ...
>
> Read the fuse man page for other options.
>     -fstype=fuse,transform_symlinks,uid=0,gid=0  ...
>
> BR, Bob

Hi Bob,
It does not work :(

So I resort to taking my sd card out and inserting it
into a usb adapter and then it gets automounted by mate DT.