Re: really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

> >> This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the
> right 
> >> word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal? 
> >> Forty-five minutes?  NO!
> > 
> > Yup, 45 mins!
> > 
> > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT and then
> > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 2.6.21 kernel
> > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function OK when
> > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. AAAAGGGGHHHH!
> > 
> Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> /var/log/dmesg may have some clues... 
Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might be
of interest.

...
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
apm: BIOS not found.
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
...
ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is
not present [20070126]
ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is
not present [20070126]
...
SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not configured
for labeling
audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
...

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Mogens Kjaer]

zephod(a)cfl.rr.com wrote:
....
>  Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might
> be
>  of interest. 
...

Try some of the hints from:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1081719

Mogens
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really REALLY slow computer

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

> >> It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to
> INIT and then
> >> udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 2.6.21 kernel
> >> was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function OK when
> >> it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. AAAAGGGGHHHH!
> >>
> > Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> > /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>  
>  Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might be
>  of interest. 

Make sure you have the latest BIOS available for the DC7700 (we are 
talking about a DC7700, right)?

Also, I boot my DC7700 with the "pci=noacpi acpi=off" kernel parameters.


- Mike

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: Mogens Kjaer <mk(a)crc.dk&gt;
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:01 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;

>  zephod(a)cfl.rr.com wrote:
>  ....
>  > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that 
>  might be
>  > of interest.
>  ...
>  
>  Try some of the hints from:
>  
>  http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do? 
threadId=1081719

I have read that thread before. Most of the problems reported there 
seem to be that people could not boot the kernel and people were 
taling about the 2.6.19 version whereas I can boot and I'm running the 
2.6.21 kernel. There is one mention of poor i/o performance and the 
suggestion is to run with acpi=off and hda=noprobe. I have already 
tried acpi=off and that didn't make any noticable difference. I will 
try the noprobe option tomorrow morning. I only boot into Linux once a 
day as I do have some work I need to do!

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" <mjc(a)avtechpulse.com&gt;
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:06 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;

>  >>> It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets
> to INIT 
>  and then
>  >>> udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 
>  2.6.21 kernel
>  >>> was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function 
>  OK when
>  >>> it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. 
>  AAAAGGGGHHHH!>>>
>  >> Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
>  >> /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>  > 
>  > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that 
>  might be
>  > of interest.
>  
>  
>  Make sure you have the latest BIOS available for the DC7700 (we 
>  are 
>  talking about a DC7700, right)? 
Yes we are talking about a dc7700p and it a brand new machine so I 
would hope it has a very recent BIOS if not the latest but I will 
check anyhow.

>  Also, I boot my DC7700 with the "pci=noacpi acpi=off"
> kernel 
>  parameters. 
I've already tried booting with the acpi=off kernel parameter but 
tomorrow I will try with the pci=noacpi option. I am also going to try 
the hda=noprobe (actually in my case I think it should be 
sdb=noprobe?) I have also seen sugestion to try pci=conf1 and I might 
try the pae kernel but I think that only makes a difference if you 
have > 2G of RAM and I have 2G.

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: zephod(a)cfl.rr.com
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:56 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com

>  Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>  
>  >>> This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the right 
>  >>> word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal? 
>  >>> Forty-five minutes?  NO!
>  >> 
>  >> Yup, 45 mins!
>  >> 
>  >> It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT 
>  and then
>  >> udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 
>  2.6.21 kernel
>  >> was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function 
>  OK when
>  >> it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. 
>  AAAAGGGGHHHH!>> 
>  >Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
>  >/var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>  
>  Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that 
>  might be
>  of interest.
>  
>  ...
>  checking if image is initramfs... it is
>  Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
>  apm: BIOS not found.
>  audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
>  ...
>  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor 
>  Device is
>  not present [20070126]
>  ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor 
>  Device is
>  not present [20070126]
>  ...
>  SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not  
configured
>  for labeling
>  audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
>  comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
>  scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>  tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
>  ...
>  
>  Steve 
Also on shutdown, I get these messages:

...
Shutting down interface eth0: e1000: eth0: e1000_reset: Hardware 
error   [  OK  ]
Shutting down loopback 
interface:                                        [  OK  ]
SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
...

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[pds]

On 5/3/07, zephod(a)cfl.rr.com <zephod(a)cfl.rr.com&gt; wrote:
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: zephod(a)cfl.rr.com
>  Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:56 am
>  Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
>  To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
>
>  > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>  >
>  > >>> This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the right
>  > >>> word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal?
>  > >>> Forty-five minutes?  NO!
>  > >>
>  > >> Yup, 45 mins!
>  > >>
>  > >> It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT
>  > and then
>  > >> udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the
>  > 2.6.21 kernel
>  > >> was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function
>  > OK when
>  > >> it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww.
>  > AAAAGGGGHHHH!>>
>  > >Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
>  > >/var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>  >
>  > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that
>  > might be
>  > of interest.
>  >
>  > ...
>  > checking if image is initramfs... it is
>  > Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
>  > apm: BIOS not found.
>  > audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
>  > ...
>  > ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor
>  > Device is
>  > not present [20070126]
>  > ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor
>  > Device is
>  > not present [20070126]
>  > ...
>  > SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not
>  configured
>  > for labeling
>  > audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
>  > comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
>  > scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
>  > tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
>  > ...
>  >
>  > Steve
>
>  Also on shutdown, I get these messages:
>
>  ...
>  Shutting down interface eth0: e1000: eth0: e1000_reset: Hardware
>  error   [  OK  ]
>  Shutting down loopback
>  interface:                                        [  OK  ]
>  SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
>  ...
>
>  Any problems booting into single user mode, init mode 1?  If not then 
you'll
need to go through the services that are starting in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
to see which one(s) is causing the problems.

-pete

really REALLY slow computer

[Mogens Kjaer]

zephod(a)cfl.rr.com wrote:
...
>  Yes we are talking about a dc7700p and it a brand new machine so I 
>  would hope it has a very recent BIOS if not the latest but I will 
>  check anyhow. 
The latest is 1.10A, this came out mid-April.

Mogens
-- 
Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department
Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark
Phone: [phone], Fax: [phone]
Email: mk(a)crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk

Possible SOLLUTION Re: really REALLY slow computer,

[potat0]

I've been struggling with Fedora 7 on my dc7700p vPro.
It used 30 mins to boot and X was terrible.

After upgrading to BIOS 2.10 Rev. A (19 Apr 2007) it boots in 15 secs
and X runs smooth as h***

:)

Tor Egil


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