Re: really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the right 
> > > word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal? 
> > > Forty-five minutes?  NO!
> >
> > Yup, 45 mins!
> >
> > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT and then
> > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 2.6.21 kernel
> > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function OK when
> > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. AAAAGGGGHHHH!
>
> Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...

Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might be
of interest.

...
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
apm: BIOS not found.
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
...
ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is
not present [20070126]
ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor Device is
not present [20070126]
...
SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not configured
for labeling
audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
...

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Mogens Kjaer]

[e-mail] wrote:
....
> Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might be
> of interest.

...

Try some of the hints from:

http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1081719

Mogens

really REALLY slow computer

[Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak]

> > > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT and then
> > > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the 2.6.21 kernel
> > > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function OK when
> > > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww. AAAAGGGGHHHH!
> >
> > Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> > /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>
> Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that might be
> of interest.

Make sure you have the latest BIOS available for the DC7700 (we are 
talking about a DC7700, right)?

Also, I boot my DC7700 with the "pci=noacpi acpi=off" kernel parameters.

- Mike

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: Mogens Kjaer 
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:01 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: For users of Fedora
> [e-mail] wrote:
> ....
> > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that
>
> might be
> > of interest.
>
> ...
>
> Try some of the hints from:
>
> http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?

threadId=1081719

I have read that thread before. Most of the problems reported there 
seem to be that people could not boot the kernel and people were 
taling about the 2.6.19 version whereas I can boot and I'm running the 
2.6.21 kernel. There is one mention of poor i/o performance and the 
suggestion is to run with acpi=off and hda=noprobe. I have already 
tried acpi=off and that didn't make any noticable difference. I will 
try the noprobe option tomorrow morning. I only boot into Linux once a 
day as I do have some work I need to do!

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak" 
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 9:06 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: For users of Fedora
> > > > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT
>
> and then
> > > > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the
>
> 2.6.21 kernel
> > > > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function
>
> OK when
> > > > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww.
>
> AAAAGGGGHHHH!>>>
> > > Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> > > /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
> >
> > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that
>
> might be
> > of interest.
>
> Make sure you have the latest BIOS available for the DC7700 (we 
> are 
> talking about a DC7700, right)?

Yes we are talking about a dc7700p and it a brand new machine so I 
would hope it has a very recent BIOS if not the latest but I will 
check anyhow.
> Also, I boot my DC7700 with the "pci=noacpi acpi=off" kernel 
> parameters.

I've already tried booting with the acpi=off kernel parameter but 
tomorrow I will try with the pci=noacpi option. I am also going to try 
the hda=noprobe (actually in my case I think it should be 
sdb=noprobe?) I have also seen sugestion to try pci=conf1 and I might 
try the pae kernel but I think that only makes a difference if you 
have > 2G of RAM and I have 2G.

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[Steve Blackwell]

----- Original Message -----
From: [e-mail]
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:56 am
Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
To: [e-mail]
> Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > > This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the right 
> > > > word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal? 
> > > > Forty-five minutes?  NO!
> > >
> > > Yup, 45 mins!
> > >
> > > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT
>
> and then
> > > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the
>
> 2.6.21 kernel
> > > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function
>
> OK when
> > > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww.
>
> AAAAGGGGHHHH!>>
> > Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> > /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
>
> Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that 
> might be
> of interest.
>
> ...
> checking if image is initramfs... it is
> Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
> apm: BIOS not found.
> audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
> ...
> ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor 
> Device is
> not present [20070126]
> ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor 
> Device is
> not present [20070126]
> ...
> SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not

configured
> for labeling
> audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
> comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
> scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> ...
>
> Steve

Also on shutdown, I get these messages:

...
Shutting down interface eth0: e1000: eth0: e1000_reset: Hardware 
error   [  OK  ]
Shutting down loopback 
interface:                                        [  OK  ]
SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
...

Steve

really REALLY slow computer

[pds]

On 5/3/07, [e-mail]  wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [e-mail]
> Date: Thursday, May 3, 2007 8:56 am
> Subject: Re: really REALLY slow computer
> To: [e-mail]
> > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > > > This is immediately after boot up, (Immediate isn't the right
> > > > > word as it takes ~45mins to boot and log in) Is this normal?
> > > > > Forty-five minutes?  NO!
> > > >
> > > > Yup, 45 mins!
> > > >
> > > > It starts to boot OK but really bogs down when it gets to INIT
> >
> > and then
> > > > udev times out which takes about 10mins. I was hoping the
> >
> > 2.6.21 kernel
> > > > was going to help but it did not. Everything seems to function
> >
> > OK when
> > > > it finally boots but it juuussssttt ttttoooo ssslllooowwww.
> >
> > AAAAGGGGHHHH!>>
> > > Is there anything in the logs about timeouts during boot?
> > > /var/log/dmesg may have some clues...
> >
> > Nothing about timeouts. Here are a few things from dmesg that
> > might be
> > of interest.
> >
> > ...
> > checking if image is initramfs... it is
> > Freeing initrd memory: 3470k freed
> > apm: BIOS not found.
> > audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
> > ...
> > ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor
> > Device is
> > not present [20070126]
> > ACPI Exception (processor_core-0783): AE_NOT_FOUND, Processor
> > Device is
> > not present [20070126]
> > ...
> > SELinux: initialized (dev securityfs, type securityfs), not
>
> configured
> > for labeling
> > audit(1178194702.785:4): avc:  denied  { mount } for  pid=955
> > comm="modprobe" name="/" dev=securityfs ino=5875
> > scontext=system_u:system_r:insmod_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> > tcontext=system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 tclass=filesystem
> > ...
> >
> > Steve
>
> Also on shutdown, I get these messages:
>
> ...
> Shutting down interface eth0: e1000: eth0: e1000_reset: Hardware
> error   [  OK  ]
> Shutting down loopback
> interface:                                        [  OK  ]
> SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device
> ...
>
> Any problems booting into single user mode, init mode 1?  If not then

you'll need to go through the services that are starting in /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
to see which one(s) is causing the problems.

-pete

really REALLY slow computer

[Mogens Kjaer]

[e-mail] wrote:
...
> Yes we are talking about a dc7700p and it a brand new machine so I 
> would hope it has a very recent BIOS if not the latest but I will 
> check anyhow.

The latest is 1.10A, this came out mid-April.

Mogens

Possible SOLLUTION Re: really REALLY slow computer,

[potat0]

I've been struggling with Fedora 7 on my dc7700p vPro.
It used 30 mins to boot and X was terrible.

After upgrading to BIOS 2.10 Rev. A (19 Apr 2007) it boots in 15 secs
and X runs smooth as h***

:)

Tor Egil