Hi Friends, I am just trying to update a WEB server but I face a problem , seems general! Normally when you try to use YUM (We are using Core2), you will receive a very old offer of update from RedHat web site and when we try to install RPMs for other Cores , we receive many dependecy errors.(For instant the best offer of YUM for FC2 trying to update Apache is 2.0.51 and MySQL 3... ! . We receive other error messages when we try to use sources of these programs.
So what is thebest solution to keep these packages as up to date as possible? No need to say that we can not upgrade to Core4 easily.
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Am Sa, den 27.08.2005 schrieb CHAT KHODA um 14:20:
I am just trying to update a WEB server but I face a problem , seems general! Normally when you try to use YUM (We are using Core2), you will receive a very old offer of update from RedHat web site and when we try to install RPMs for other Cores , we receive many dependecy errors.(For instant the best offer of YUM for FC2 trying to update Apache is 2.0.51 and MySQL 3... ! . We receive other error messages when we try to use sources of these programs.
So what is thebest solution to keep these packages as up to date as possible? No need to say that we can not upgrade to Core4 easily.
FC2 is EOL - means no updates available for it since several month. There is the Fedora Legacy Project http://www.fedoralegacy.org/ which offers security (no feature updates, only security patches) updates for actually EOL products FC1 and FC2. Please read on their website. Without upgrading to a current Fedora release you can't get newer applications versions without doing the work yourself.
Alexander
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 07:20, CHAT KHODA wrote:
Hi Friends, I am just trying to update a WEB server but I face a problem , seems general! Normally when you try to use YUM (We are using Core2), you will receive a very old offer of update from RedHat web site and when we try to install RPMs for other Cores , we receive many dependecy errors.(For instant the best offer of YUM for FC2 trying to update Apache is 2.0.51 and MySQL 3... ! . We receive other error messages when we try to use sources of these programs.
So what is thebest solution to keep these packages as up to date as possible? No need to say that we can not upgrade to Core4 easily.
If you want to keep an older version of fedora running, switch to the legacy support repositories: http://fedoralegacy.org/ If you want to keep servers running much longer than the fedora fast release cycles without re-installing, you might want to switch to Centos: http://www.centos.org/ Centos4 is not a big jump from fedora FC2 or FC3 but can be expected to have official updates for a much longer time.
Dear Les, I am interested in CentOS project as you described.Please let me know whether I can find its packages as easy as Redhat Linux and whether I can user RPM and other Redhat facilities with CentOS? Sincerely,
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On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 07:20, CHAT KHODA wrote:
Hi Friends, I am just trying to update a WEB server but I face
a
problem , seems general! Normally when you try to use YUM (We are using
Core2),
you will receive a very old offer of update from RedHat web site and when we try to install RPMs
for
other Cores , we receive many dependecy
errors.(For
instant the best offer of YUM for FC2 trying to
update
Apache is 2.0.51 and MySQL 3... ! . We receive other error messages when we try to use sources of these programs.
So what is thebest solution to keep these packages
as
up to date as possible? No need to say that we can not upgrade to Core4 easily.
If you want to keep an older version of fedora running, switch to the legacy support repositories: http://fedoralegacy.org/ If you want to keep servers running much longer than the fedora fast release cycles without re-installing, you might want to switch to Centos: http://www.centos.org/ Centos4 is not a big jump from fedora FC2 or FC3 but can be expected to have official updates for a much longer time.
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CHAT KHODA wrote:
Dear Les, I am interested in CentOS project as you described.Please let me know whether I can find its packages as easy as Redhat Linux and whether I can user RPM and other Redhat facilities with CentOS? Sincerely,
CentOS ( The Community ENTerprise Operating System )is simply RHEL, modified only to remove dependancies of Red Hat Network and Red Hat in general. All packages for RHEL should run on CentOS. CentOS 4 = RHEL 4 etc. You can find it at http://www.centos.org/
Thomas Jollans
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 13:46, CHAT KHODA wrote:
Dear Les, I am interested in CentOS project as you described.Please let me know whether I can find its packages as easy as Redhat Linux and whether I can user RPM and other Redhat facilities with CentOS?
Centos has its own mailing list that would be better for this kind of question, but the short answer is that almost everything that would work with Red Hat Enterprise will work with Centos except that there is no official support. There may not be quite the same number of add-on packages available as you find in the fedora extras repositories but there are 3rd party packagers and repositories and you have a fair chance of rebuilding a fedora source rpm and getting a working program. Official updates to the included packages are available though yum, up2date, or apt-get and can be expected to continue without having to repoint to different repositories.
Excuse me, may i missed something... So, if I have a web-server, with a time, say 5 years from now, i will not be able to update my FC4 through the general services, like yum, etc?
Strong wrote:
Excuse me, may i missed something... So, if I have a web-server, with a time, say 5 years from now, i will not be able to update my FC4 through the general services, like yum, etc?
Fedora Core releases will follow the so-called "1-2-3 and out" policy in co-operation with Red Hat/Fedora Core. This means that when the Red Hat/Fedora Core group no longer supports a Fedora Core release, Fedora Legacy will pick it up and maintain it for two additional Fedora Core release cycles. Based on the current schedule for Fedora Core releases, this should provide each release with approximately 1.5 years of total update support.
In short, Fedora Legacy will provide updates for any Fedora Core releases up to two versions back from the current release.
Q: Is the length of support above fixed in stone?
A: No. We may drop a release earlier if there is not sufficient community support to continue supporting it. Also, the above time periods should be considered to be a "at least this long" type of definition. If there is significant interest and support in a release, and enough reason to do so, we may extend the life spam of a release longer than the above defined periods.
(The "life spam" is in the original: I hope that's not a Freudian slip!)
If you want further support, you are expected to upgrade to a newer Fedora, or switch to Red Hat Enterprise Linux or Centos. They don't provide so many releases, so they can release updates for "at least 5 years" (http://fedora.redhat.com/about/rhel.html) / "7 years" (http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/faq/#20).
Hope this helps,
James.
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 05:20 -0700, CHAT KHODA wrote:
So what is thebest solution to keep these packages as up to date as possible? No need to say that we can not upgrade to Core4 easily.
Other replies have cited the legacy issue. Why is there a problem updating to FC4? I have updated numerous machines without an issue.
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