hi, i'm currently writing a course on docker (specifically, docker on fedora, FWIW), and i'm looking for the current state of docker documentation on fedora, whatever that might be.
a quick google for "fedora" and "docker" brings one here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_docker
but that wiki page is clearly out of date as it refers to the fedora package "docker-io", which doesn't exist anymore in fedora 22.
in addition, i'm interested in the docker roadmap for fedora, as i know there's some current renaming of other docker-related packages, so i'd like to know what to expect in the near future.
any pointers to online fedora/docker stuff greatly appreciated.
rday
On Aug 9, 2015 2:55 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
hi, i'm currently writing a course on docker (specifically, docker on fedora, FWIW), and i'm looking for the current state of docker documentation on fedora, whatever that might be.
a quick google for "fedora" and "docker" brings one here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_docker
but that wiki page is clearly out of date as it refers to the fedora package "docker-io", which doesn't exist anymore in fedora 22.
in addition, i'm interested in the docker roadmap for fedora, as i know there's some current renaming of other docker-related packages, so i'd like to know what to expect in the near future.
any pointers to online fedora/docker stuff greatly appreciated.
rday
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There has been some discussion about adding Docker content to the official Fedora Docs lineup recently. The idea hasn't gotten a lot of traction yet because a) the upstream documentation is already quite comprehensive, and b) It doesn't fit well into any existing Guide.
Eventually I think we'll end up producing a lot of container-focused content; Docker, systemd-nspawn, management tools ie kubernetes, use cases, etc. I don't anticipate that happening before the F23 release given other responsibilities of the team, but I've been surprised before :)
If you would like to help that effort, I welcome you to subscribe to the Docs list and continue the conversation there. Anything from polished articles to simple requests will add value.
--Pete
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Pete Travis wrote:
On Aug 9, 2015 2:55 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
hi, i'm currently writing a course on docker (specifically, docker on fedora, FWIW), and i'm looking for the current state of docker documentation on fedora, whatever that might be.
a quick google for "fedora" and "docker" brings one here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_docker
but that wiki page is clearly out of date as it refers to the fedora package "docker-io", which doesn't exist anymore in fedora 22.
in addition, i'm interested in the docker roadmap for fedora, as i know there's some current renaming of other docker-related packages, so i'd like to know what to expect in the near future.
any pointers to online fedora/docker stuff greatly appreciated.
rday
--
There has been some discussion about adding Docker content to the official Fedora Docs lineup recently. The idea hasn't gotten a lot of traction yet because a) the upstream documentation is already quite comprehensive, and b) It doesn't fit well into any existing Guide.
oh, the upstream docker docs are good, but, as i mentioned, i'm more interested in, i guess, the fedora-specific technology packaging or roadmap or whatever you want to call it.
Eventually I think we'll end up producing a lot of container-focused content; Docker, systemd-nspawn, management tools ie kubernetes, use cases, etc. I don't anticipate that happening before the F23 release given other responsibilities of the team, but I've been surprised before :)
If you would like to help that effort, I welcome you to subscribe to the Docs list and continue the conversation there. Anything from polished articles to simple requests will add value.
apart from the docs, is there something like a wiki page or something for fedora-specific docker stuff? again, more a roadmap than finished docs.
rday
On 08/09/2015 11:17 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Pete Travis wrote:
On Aug 9, 2015 2:55 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
hi, i'm currently writing a course on docker (specifically, docker on fedora, FWIW), and i'm looking for the current state of docker documentation on fedora, whatever that might be.
a quick google for "fedora" and "docker" brings one here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_docker
but that wiki page is clearly out of date as it refers to the fedora package "docker-io", which doesn't exist anymore in fedora 22.
in addition, i'm interested in the docker roadmap for fedora, as i know there's some current renaming of other docker-related packages, so i'd like to know what to expect in the near future.
any pointers to online fedora/docker stuff greatly appreciated.
rday
--
There has been some discussion about adding Docker content to the official Fedora Docs lineup recently. The idea hasn't gotten a lot of traction yet because a) the upstream documentation is already quite comprehensive, and b) It doesn't fit well into any existing Guide.
oh, the upstream docker docs are good, but, as i mentioned, i'm more interested in, i guess, the fedora-specific technology packaging or roadmap or whatever you want to call it.
Eventually I think we'll end up producing a lot of container-focused content; Docker, systemd-nspawn, management tools ie kubernetes, use cases, etc. I don't anticipate that happening before the F23 release given other responsibilities of the team, but I've been surprised before :)
If you would like to help that effort, I welcome you to subscribe to the Docs list and continue the conversation there. Anything from polished articles to simple requests will add value.
apart from the docs, is there something like a wiki page or something for fedora-specific docker stuff? again, more a roadmap than finished docs.
rday
Well, I did some searching of the wiki, and found a couple intro tutorials, and some Change pages around Docker features. The Change pages may be the closest to a 'roadmap' you'll discover.
Again, standard disclaimers apply here. Someone could be quietly be working on a five year plan for docker packaging and have a complete comprehensive guide to container management stashed on the wiki, and we haven't discovered it. That's why I encourage those who are interested to help draft the Release Notes, or we can find a guide to put it in, so the content is discoverable and the applicable release is known.
While I can't show you a prepared and curated place to discover the information you're looking for, I *can* help with the tools, methods, and infrastructure needed for you to share the research you're already doing or the content you've already written for your course. In a community project, these things come about because someone has an interest, and they are generous with the product of that interest.
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015, Pete Travis wrote:
On Aug 9, 2015 2:55 AM, "Robert P. J. Day" rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
hi, i'm currently writing a course on docker (specifically, docker on fedora, FWIW), and i'm looking for the current state of docker documentation on fedora, whatever that might be.
a quick google for "fedora" and "docker" brings one here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_docker
but that wiki page is clearly out of date as it refers to the fedora package "docker-io", which doesn't exist anymore in fedora 22.
in addition, i'm interested in the docker roadmap for fedora, as i know there's some current renaming of other docker-related packages, so i'd like to know what to expect in the near future.
any pointers to online fedora/docker stuff greatly appreciated.
There has been some discussion about adding Docker content to the official Fedora Docs lineup recently. The idea hasn't gotten a lot of traction yet because a) the upstream documentation is already quite comprehensive, and b) It doesn't fit well into any existing Guide.
Eventually I think we'll end up producing a lot of container-focused content; Docker, systemd-nspawn, management tools ie kubernetes, use cases, etc. I don't anticipate that happening before the F23 release given other responsibilities of the team, but I've been surprised before :)
coincidentally, i just ran across the perfect example of what i'm trying to keep track of. i've got a growing list of docker- and container-related packages i'm tracking and, at the last update, i noticed that the "dock" package was obsoleted and replaced by the "atomic-reactor" package (i suspect it was just a renaming).
that's the sort of thing i'm just trying to keep tabs on -- which packages are coming, which are going, etc.
rday
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 04:19:11PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
container-related packages i'm tracking and, at the last update, i noticed that the "dock" package was obsoleted and replaced by the "atomic-reactor" package (i suspect it was just a renaming).
For the record, yes, that's a rename.