To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
Best Greg
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On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:33 +0200, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
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I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
---- I'll leave this to others - one of the more popular books is "Running Linux"
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On Friday 02 December 2005 01:33 pm, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
linux base stuff /usr/bin linux administration stuff either /sbin or /usr/sbin depending upon if root exclusively should run it.
3rd party and home grown apps /usr/local/bin
Linux/Unix/*nix systems have a fairly standardized filesystem hierarchy. I think if you do a search on google for 'filesystem hierarchy standard' you'll get a ton of information.
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:33 +0200, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
Best Greg
MSN South Africa has a brand new face - visit us today! http://za.msn.com/
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:33:25PM +0200, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
There is a Windows-to-Linux HOWTO in the TLDP archives (google for The Linux Documentation Project) that gives a lot of guidelines for those migrating the way you are.
The basic executeables are in /bin; userland executeables are in /usr/bin; system executables are in /sbin and /usr/sbin; personal programs are in ~/bin (home directory is refered to often as ~)
some programs end up in /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin. a very few are hidden in /lib and /usr/lib and some other places.
you can generally find where a command resides by typing
type commandname
which will tell you where the command is. (Assumeing Bash shell)
A list of the commands built into the shell can be gotten by typing "help" to the command prompt. Non-builtin commands documentation is available by typing "man commandname".
See the TLDP pages for more giudeance.
Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
This is a proposed Standard for the file system hierarchy on UNIX like OSs. It contains a rationale for where to put things.
Mike
Windows give freedom to install new programs any where, including default. In a way this flexibility is good if one nears full capacity of the partition. Under Win, almost all programmes can be relocated some way after install or by re-installation. Under Linux rigid rule "not relocatable" is prevalent. Under Linux some programmes will go to users home directory! I have realplay lying there. But at the end of day Linux is liked for the challenge it poses to manage and Windows for daily survival. Hey - that's unfair!
On 12/3/05, Mike McCarty mike.mccarty@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
This is a proposed Standard for the file system hierarchy on UNIX like OSs. It contains a rationale for where to put things.
Mike
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On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:08, Anil Kumar Sharma wrote:
Windows give freedom to install new programs any where, including default. In a way this flexibility is good if one nears full capacity of the partition.
How do you move the registry?
Under Win, almost all programmes can be relocated some way after install or by re-installation. Under Linux rigid rule "not relocatable" is prevalent.
What does that mean in relation to files? I've only seen it used in terms of libraries where it means it is compiled for static linkage.
On 12/3/05, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 15:08, Anil Kumar Sharma wrote:
Windows give freedom to install new programs any where, including default. In a way this flexibility is good if one nears full capacity of the partition.
How do you move the registry?
Simply, I don't want to move registry. OK but why would I want to do that? The basic reason for relocating the programs is to be able to cope with a partition nearing full capacity.
Under Win, almost all programmes can be relocated some way after
install or by re-installation. Under Linux rigid rule "not relocatable" is prevalent.
What does that mean in relation to files? I've only seen it used in terms of libraries where it means it is compiled for static linkage.
There is no need to - disturb / play with - the basic requirements of a working OS. I would not want to move ../system32 for /usr/sbin older again he basics of the objective are clear.
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On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 21:43, Anil Kumar Sharma wrote:
> Under Win, almost all programmes can be relocated some way after > install or by re-installation. Under Linux rigid rule "not > relocatable" is prevalent. What does that mean in relation to files? I've only seen it used in terms of libraries where it means it is compiled for static linkage.There is no need to - disturb / play with - the basic requirements of a working OS. I would not want to move ../system32 for /usr/sbin older again he basics of the objective are clear. --
I do not mean to offend Linux lovers including myself, but kindly be generous and sporting.
I just don't understand what you mean by "not relocatable". There are certain things expected to be in the root partition because they are needed before additional filesystems are mounted when the system is booted (/bin, /etc). Other than that, just about everything could be moved if you wanted, but the usual way of dealing with a full filesystem is to take one of its large subdirectories (/var or /home in the case of the root filesystem) and move the contents to a new partition which is then mounted back on the original directory. Nothing will notice that the files have moved and you end up with additional space.
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:33, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
One good way to figure out what commands are available is to use the command apropos.
apropos keyword
Where keyword is something you are trying to do like:
apropos filesystem
apropos searches the whatis database for matches and lists short descriptions of system commands that match.
You may need to create the whatis database by running /usr/sbin/makewhatis.
You can then use the man command to get details on each of the commands listed.
man ls
man man
Under linux many of the commands are in /usr/bin but you will find some packages install commands in other locations as well.
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:28 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:33, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
One good way to figure out what commands are available is to use the command apropos.
apropos keyword
Where keyword is something you are trying to do like:
apropos filesystem
apropos searches the whatis database for matches and lists short descriptions of system commands that match.
Uhhhh, Don't you mean that apropos searches the man pages to find things that match?
[jeff@eagle ~]$ apropos /etc/passwd pam_localuser (8) - require users to be listed in /etc/passwd slapd-passwd (5) - /etc/passwd backend to slapd
Which indicates the man pages containing those references.
You may need to create the whatis database by running /usr/sbin/makewhatis.
You can then use the man command to get details on each of the commands listed.
man ls
man man
Under linux many of the commands are in /usr/bin but you will find some packages install commands in other locations as well.
At 8:03 AM -0600 12/3/05, Jeff Vian wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:28 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 13:33, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one
query
for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program
Files',
in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i
can go
to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
One good way to figure out what commands are available is to use the command apropos.
apropos keyword
Where keyword is something you are trying to do like:
apropos filesystem
apropos searches the whatis database for matches and lists short descriptions of system commands that match.
Uhhhh, Don't you mean that apropos searches the man pages to find things that match?
...
No, he meant what he said. Apropos does not search man pages; it greps the whatis database, which is constructed by makewhatis from the man page headers, not from the man page bodies. Apropos is a shell script, which you can read if you want to.
Plug: I have an improved apropos that handles multiple words in a useful way: http://georgeanelson.com/apropos2.htm ____________________________________________________________________ TonyN.:' mailto:tonynelson@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/
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One good way to figure out what commands are available is to use the command apropos.
apropos keyword
Where keyword is something you are trying to do like:
apropos filesystem
apropos searches the whatis database for matches and lists short descriptions of system commands that match.
Uhhhh, Don't you mean that apropos searches the man pages to find things that match?
...
No, he meant what he said. Apropos does not search man pages; it greps the whatis database, which is constructed by makewhatis from the man page headers, not from the man page bodies. Apropos is a shell script, which you can read if you want to.
Plug: I have an improved apropos that handles multiple words in a useful way: http://georgeanelson.com/apropos2.htm
Hopefully not to add to the confusion let me add: 1. man -k <something> works like apropos to search the whatis database.
2. However if you want to search all the man pages you can by using: man -K <something> which will search all the man pages stopping to let you look at any man page that contains the <something> text.
On Sat, 2005-12-03 at 09:03, Jeff Vian wrote:
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 14:28 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote:
One good way to figure out what commands are available is to use the command apropos.
apropos keyword
Where keyword is something you are trying to do like:
apropos filesystem
apropos searches the whatis database for matches and lists short descriptions of system commands that match.
Uhhhh, Don't you mean that apropos searches the man pages to find things that match?
If you look at the man page for apropos you will see that it searches the the whatis database for matches. The result is a list of man pages where the keyword is found. Much faster to search a database than too search each man page individually. You do need to make sure the whatis database has been created for this to work.
On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 20:33 +0200, Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
As you know,
- *Program Files* folder contains exclusive files for an application - Windows (\system, \system32, etc.) and \Documents and Settings folders contains shared and personalized files
Unixes, Linuxes, are somehow the same.
BUT: rpm files (linux install files) make all the job easy. You can try:
# rpm -qa (will list you all packages)
# rpm -qi gcc (will show you gcc package generalities)
# rpm -qil gcc (the same, and what you need: ALL gcc files and locations. Theres no way to know that on windows)
Yum is a rpm files automatizer, which handles mainly dependencies between rpm packages.
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
# man rpm # man yum
or google for examples!
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Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now: In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
I greatly appreciate the help.
Best Greg
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Welcome to enlightenment!!
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on 12/02/2005 01:33 PM Phet Whore Meyer wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Ive recently left the dark and moved into linux, i just have this one query for now:
congratulations! Welcome to the club.
In windows all programs were installed into a folder called 'Program Files', in linux, where is that equivelant folder? What is it called?
I know that this question is fairly trivial, is there anywhere else i can go to find out basic information such as this?
specificly this information can be found if you type "man hier" in command prompt (I assume you are familiar with command line interface already)
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akonstam＠trinity.edu -
Anil Kumar Sharma -
Craig White -
G.Wolfe Woodbury -
Jeff Vian -
Les Mikesell -
Mike McCarty -
oleksandr korneta -
Phet Whore Meyer -
Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo -
Scot L. Harris -
Sudhir Anand -
Terry Polzin -
Tim Alberts -
Tony Nelson