Re: [vdsm] [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any 
special reason?
于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  yes.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
> > To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
> > Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Engine-devel mailing list
> > Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >
>  _______________________________________________
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>  Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  

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---
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Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com or
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PRC

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

[Alon Bar-Lev]

Yes, I am experiencing this too...

Itamar?

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
>  To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
> "VDSM Project Development"
>  <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  
>  It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any
>  special reason?
>  于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  > yes.
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  >> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  >> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
>  >> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> _______________________________________________
>  >> Engine-devel mailing list
>  >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  >>
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > Engine-devel mailing list
>  > Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  >
>  
>  
>  --
>  ---
>  舒明 Shu Ming
>  Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
>  Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com or
>  shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
>  Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
>  District, Beijing 100193, PRC
>  
>  
>

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

[Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden]

In cases like these it's best to mail infra as well, or poke on #ovirt.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:52:39AM -0400, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>  
>  Yes, I am experiencing this too...
>  
>  Itamar?
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
>  > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
> "VDSM Project Development"
>  > <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > 
>  > It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any
>  > special reason?
>  > 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  > > yes.
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > >> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > >> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
>  > >> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

[Asaf Shakarchi]

It happens from time to time, restart is required, Itamar only.

----- Original Message -----
>  
>  Yes, I am experiencing this too...
>  
>  Itamar?
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
>  > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
>  > "VDSM Project Development"
>  > <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > 
>  > It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any
>  > special reason?
>  > 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  > > yes.
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > >> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > >> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
>  > >> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >> _______________________________________________
>  > >> Engine-devel mailing list
>  > >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  > >>
>  > > _______________________________________________
>  > > Engine-devel mailing list
>  > > Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  > >
>  > 
>  > 
>  > --
>  > ---
>  > 舒明 Shu Ming
>  > Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
>  > Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com or
>  > shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
>  > Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
>  > District, Beijing 100193, PRC
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 
>  _______________________________________________
>  Engine-devel mailing list
>  Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

On 09/12/2012 06:23 PM, Asaf Shakarchi wrote:
>  It happens from time to time, restart is required, Itamar only.
restarted.
eyal - can we make progress on the jenkins job with permission to  more 
people to restart gerrit?
others - please email infra on gerrit issues (well, me personally always 
help as well)

>  ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > Yes, I am experiencing this too...
> >
> > Itamar?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
> >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >> Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;,
> engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
> >> "VDSM Project Development"
> >> <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >>
> >> It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any
> >> special reason?
> >> 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
> >>> yes.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >>>> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Engine-devel mailing list
> >>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Engine-devel mailing list
> >>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ---
> >> 舒明 Shu Ming
> >> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
> >> Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com or
> >> shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
> >> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Engine-devel mailing list
> > Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  To: "Asaf Shakarchi" <ashakarc(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Shireesh Anjal"
> <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org, "VDSM Project
>  Development" <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;, "Shu Ming"
> <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;, "Eyal Edri"
>  <eedri(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:34:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  
>  On 09/12/2012 06:23 PM, Asaf Shakarchi wrote:
>  > It happens from time to time, restart is required, Itamar only.
>  
>  restarted.
>  eyal - can we make progress on the jenkins job with permission to
>   more
>  people to restart gerrit? 
the job is ready
http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/system-monitoring/job/restart_gerrit_service
but i need to have jenkins user access to gerrit server + sudo access to run
'service' restart... 

it has access to www.ovirt.org but not to gerrit.ovirt.org. 

>  others - please email infra on gerrit issues (well, me personally
>  always
>  help as well)
>  
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  >>
>  >> Yes, I am experiencing this too...
>  >>
>  >> Itamar?
>  >>
>  >> ----- Original Message -----
>  >>> From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
>  >>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  >>> Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;,
> engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
>  >>> "VDSM Project Development"
>  >>> <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
>  >>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  >>>
>  >>> It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there
>  >>> any
>  >>> special reason?
>  >>> 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  >>>> yes.
>  >>>>
>  >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>  >>>>> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  >>>>> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
>  >>>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>>
>  >>>>> _______________________________________________
>  >>>>> Engine-devel mailing list
>  >>>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  >>>>>
>  >>>> _______________________________________________
>  >>>> Engine-devel mailing list
>  >>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  >>>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>> --
>  >>> ---
>  >>> 舒明 Shu Ming
>  >>> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
>  >>> Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com
>  >>> or
>  >>> shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
>  >>> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
>  >>> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> _______________________________________________
>  >> Engine-devel mailing list
>  >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  >>
>  
>  
>

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

So the fix is to just regularly restart gerrit?  Do we have any idea about the
real, underlying problem?

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:56:44AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote:
>  
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > To: "Asaf Shakarchi" <ashakarc(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Shireesh Anjal"
> <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org, "VDSM Project
>  > Development" <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;, "Shu Ming"
> <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;, "Eyal Edri"
>  > <eedri(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:34:56 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > 
>  > On 09/12/2012 06:23 PM, Asaf Shakarchi wrote:
>  > > It happens from time to time, restart is required, Itamar only.
>  > 
>  > restarted.
>  > eyal - can we make progress on the jenkins job with permission to
>  >  more
>  > people to restart gerrit?
>  
>  the job is ready
> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/system-monitoring/job/restart_gerrit_service
>  but i need to have jenkins user access to gerrit server + sudo access to run
> 'service' restart... 
>  
>  it has access to www.ovirt.org but not to gerrit.ovirt.org. 
>  
>  > others - please email infra on gerrit issues (well, me personally
>  > always
>  > help as well)
>  > 
>  > >
>  > > ----- Original Message -----
>  > >>
>  > >> Yes, I am experiencing this too...
>  > >>
>  > >> Itamar?
>  > >>
>  > >> ----- Original Message -----
>  > >>> From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
>  > >>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > >>> Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;,
> engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
>  > >>> "VDSM Project Development"
>  > >>> <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
>  > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
>  > >>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > >>>
>  > >>> It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there
>  > >>> any
>  > >>> special reason?
>  > >>> 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
>  > >>>> yes.
>  > >>>>
>  > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>  > >>>>> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > >>>>> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
>  > >>>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
>  > >>>>>
>  > >>>>>
>  > >>>>> _______________________________________________
>  > >>>>> Engine-devel mailing list
>  > >>>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  > >>>>>
>  > >>>> _______________________________________________
>  > >>>> Engine-devel mailing list
>  > >>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  > >>>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>> --
>  > >>> ---
>  > >>> 舒明 Shu Ming
>  > >>> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
>  > >>> Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com
>  > >>> or
>  > >>> shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
>  > >>> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
>  > >>> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >> _______________________________________________
>  > >> Engine-devel mailing list
>  > >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
>  > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
>  > >>
>  > 
>  > 
>  >
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>  https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/vdsm-devel 
-- 
Adam Litke <agl(a)us.ibm.com&gt;
IBM Linux Technology Center

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

On 09/12/2012 08:15 PM, Adam Litke wrote:
>  So the fix is to just regularly restart gerrit?  Do we have any idea
> about the
>  real, underlying problem? 
the error is in jetty, i didn't look at fixing the core issue in jetty.
moving to another container is possible, but makes managing it for 
upgrades much less trivial.
so far most threads around this on google mention a cron to detect this 
and restart.
I actually expect moving to a hosted physical server will make this less 
of an issue based on the previous experience of extending the EC2 instance.

if it won't help, we may need to tackle the core jetty issue ourselves.

>  On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:56:44AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Itamar Heim" <iheim(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >> To: "Asaf Shakarchi" <ashakarc(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Shireesh
> Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;, engine-devel(a)ovirt.org, "VDSM Project
> >> Development" <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;, "Shu Ming"
> <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;, "Eyal Edri"
> >> <eedri(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:34:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >>
> >> On 09/12/2012 06:23 PM, Asaf Shakarchi wrote:
> >>> It happens from time to time, restart is required, Itamar only.
> >>
> >> restarted.
> >> eyal - can we make progress on the jenkins job with permission to
> >>   more
> >> people to restart gerrit?
> >
> > the job is ready
> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/system-monitoring/job/restart_gerrit_service
> > but i need to have jenkins user access to gerrit server + sudo access to run
> 'service' restart...
> >
> > it has access to www.ovirt.org but not to gerrit.ovirt.org.
> >
> >> others - please email infra on gerrit issues (well, me personally
> >> always
> >> help as well)
> >>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I am experiencing this too...
> >>>>
> >>>> Itamar?
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Shu Ming" <shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com&gt;
> >>>>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" <alonbl(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >>>>> Cc: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;,
> engine-devel(a)ovirt.org,
> >>>>> "VDSM Project Development"
> >>>>> <vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org&gt;
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:50:14 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there
> >>>>> any
> >>>>> special reason?
> >>>>> 于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
> >>>>>> yes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >>>>>>> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down?
> <eom>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>> Engine-devel mailing list
> >>>>>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>> Engine-devel mailing list
> >>>>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> 舒明 Shu Ming
> >>>>> Open Virtualization Engineerning; CSTL, IBM Corp.
> >>>>> Tel: [phone]  Tieline: 9051626 E-mail: shuming(a)cn.ibm.com
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> shuming(a)linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >>>>> Address: 3/F Ring Building, ZhongGuanCun Software Park, Haidian
> >>>>> District, Beijing 100193, PRC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Engine-devel mailing list
> >>>> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > vdsm-devel mailing list
> > vdsm-devel(a)lists.fedorahosted.org
> > https://lists.fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/vdsm-devel
>

[Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>

On 09/12/2012 05:50 PM, Shu Ming wrote:
>  It seems gerrit has downed for several times recently. Is there any
>  special reason? 
I assume the jenkins/gerrit integration is overloading it a bit.


>  于 2012-9-12 22:45, Alon Bar-Lev:
> > yes.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Shireesh Anjal" <sanjal(a)redhat.com&gt;
> >> To: engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 5:43:35 PM
> >> Subject: [Engine-devel] is gerrit.ovirt.org down? <eom>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Engine-devel mailing list
> >> Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Engine-devel mailing list
> > Engine-devel(a)ovirt.org
> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/engine-devel
> >
>
>