Following on the heals of John Poelstra, I was taking a look at all the F12 Virt Features with the release notes in mind. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F12_Virt_Features
That's an impressive and ambitious list!
Given the schedule: 2009-07-28 Feature Freeze--Planning & Development Ends 2009-08-18 Alpha Release
Identifying what is likely to actually make it will hopefully allow the release notes to be more focused and useful. I clicked through each and quickly came up with the categorized list below.
I made a very quick uninformed guess at what was unlikely to make F12, otherwise I listed a feature as pending whether it is ready for the feature wrangler or not.
If you know a feature is definitely not going to make it or if you think a feature is likely to make it out of pending status, please comment below or update the feature's targeted Fedora release.
An evaluation of the percent complete or a bump to the last update date on the feature page might also be helpful.
= Accepted = * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtgPXE * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtioSerial
= Pending = * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Hostinfo * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Huge_Page_Backed_Memory * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_NIC_Hotplug * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_qcow2_Performance * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libguestfs - : Technically, made it into F11, but... * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SR-IOV * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VHostNet * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtTCK * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtStorageManagement * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Xen_to_KVM_migration
= Unlikely? = * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KSM * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Stable_Guest_ABI * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Stable_PCI_Addresses * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_Network_Interface * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtAppliances * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtAuthorization * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtPrivileges * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtVNCResourceTunnel * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
Thanks!
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:31:44PM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
Following on the heals of John Poelstra, I was taking a look at all the F12 Virt Features with the release notes in mind. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F12_Virt_Features
That's an impressive and ambitious list!
I'm feeling the pain trying to get it all done :-)
= Accepted =
= Pending =
- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Hostinfo
- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_Huge_Page_Backed_Memory
- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_NIC_Hotplug
- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_qcow2_Performance
- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libguestfs -
: Technically, made it into F11, but...
Essentially all there in rawhide already
Definitely get this
Yep, have most of this in current libvirt in rawhide
= Unlikely? =
These 3 are questions for Mark M ...
Definltey get this
This one is questionable at this stage.
Very unlikely, will shift to F13
Must have.
Will only be partially done. Likely dropping serial-over-VNC in favour of a plan b, todo serial-over-libvirt
Unlikely due to ongoing upstream kenrel work
Daniel
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 10:13 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 05:31:44PM -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
Definitely get this
Move to ReadyForWrangler ?
This one is questionable at this stage.
Moved to f13. We can move it back if something changes.
Very unlikely, will shift to F13
Okay, I moved it.
Must have.
Move to ReadyForWrangler? Probably needs a bit of cleanup to show just the bits we're doing for F-12
Will only be partially done. Likely dropping serial-over-VNC in favour of a plan b, todo serial-over-libvirt
Page needs updating.
Cheers, Mark.
Hey,
Feature owners, please read through the list below for your feature and:
a) reply with a brief status update if I got it wrong
b) make sure the feature page is up to date with the latest status
c) if there is a reasonable chance of your feature making Fedora 12, make sure the page is complete and in the ReadyForWrangler category. It needs to be reviewed by FESCo this week or next.
d) if it looks like it won't make Fedora 12, move it to the F-13 virt features category
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 17:31 -0700, Dale Bewley wrote:
Following on the heals of John Poelstra, I was taking a look at all the F12 Virt Features with the release notes in mind. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:F12_Virt_Features
That's an impressive and ambitious list!
Given the schedule: 2009-07-28 Feature Freeze--Planning & Development Ends 2009-08-18 Alpha Release
Identifying what is likely to actually make it will hopefully allow the release notes to be more focused and useful. I clicked through each and quickly came up with the categorized list below.
I made a very quick uninformed guess at what was unlikely to make F12, otherwise I listed a feature as pending whether it is ready for the feature wrangler or not.
Thanks for doing this, my take on them all below.
If you know a feature is definitely not going to make it or if you think a feature is likely to make it out of pending status, please comment below or update the feature's targeted Fedora release.
An evaluation of the percent complete or a bump to the last update date on the feature page might also be helpful.
= Accepted =
Done.
Ambitious for F-12 - e.g. needs some yet unaccepted upstream kernel patches to be backported.
= Pending =
A little ambitious for Fedora 12, although AFAIK Rich is working hard on it. Also, once a first version has been cooked up, it should make it into Fedora very quickly.
No real progress on this, and it's a long-standing issue. Most obviously missing is any progress on the libvirt side. I can't see this making Fedora 12.
Should make Fedora 12. The qemu bits are upstream now, and I hope to post the libvirt bits this week.
AFAICT, it's pretty much done upstream - so the feature page just needs updating and moving into the ReadyForWrangler category.
: Technically, made it into F11, but...
Yeah, it's done - it's just a matter of pimping it for Fedora 12.
Done, just needs some testing details fleshed out.
Very ambitious for Fedora 12. Most obvious blocker is acceptance into the upstream kernel before backporting. I don't expect this to make it.
My understanding is that this should not be difficult to get finished, but the feature page hasn't been updated in a while and I haven't seen any progress.
Haven't been following too closely, but I think this is more or less complete upstream. The feature page needs updating and moving to the ReadyForWrangler category.
Not sure on the status here. Rich and Mat are working hard on it, but will it make F-12?
= Unlikely? =
Pending upstream finalizing the userland API before backporting it to the F-12 kernel. Not sure if there has been any progress on that in the last couple of weeks. If that was resolved, the feature should be quite straightforward to complete.
Some of the needed pieces are upstream in qemu now - i.e. using machine types for backwards compat. Still need a couple more changes to qemu here and then for libvirt to use it. Possible, but not certain, for Fedora 12.
I think a lot of the qemu side is now upstream. It's mainly a question of whether Fedora 12 libvirt will be able to use it.
I think this is largely done, but the feature page hasn't been updated in a long time.
Haven't seen any progress on this, probably won't make it in time.
Haven't seen any progress on this, probably won't make it in time.
Dan has some of this done, it may be a case that we limit the feature's scope for Fedora 12.
Dan has done some of the work here, but I've lost track of how likely it is to be complete for Fedora 12.
Moved to F-13. Status still depends on upstream acceptance of the kernel patches, which is an ongoing saga.
Thanks, Mark.
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:03:29AM +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
= Pending =
A little ambitious for Fedora 12, although AFAIK Rich is working hard on it. Also, once a first version has been cooked up, it should make it into Fedora very quickly.
Should have a reasonable chance of making it for F-12.
Not sure on the status here. Rich and Mat are working hard on it, but will it make F-12?
Should have something (RHEL migrations at least) by end of this week.
Rich.
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:03 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
= Unlikely? =
Pending upstream finalizing the userland API before backporting it to the F-12 kernel. Not sure if there has been any progress on that in the last couple of weeks. If that was resolved, the feature should be quite straightforward to complete.
Actually quite likely to make F12. There was an madvise based API rollup at the end of June, and after a bit of back and forth, it appears that it is ready to push upstream as of this week. I am trying to catch Izik today for some final clarification before pushing the fedora kernel piece. I will update the feature page this week once I have the clarification I need on details.
Justin
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 08:38 -0500, Justin M. Forbes wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:03 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
= Unlikely? =
Pending upstream finalizing the userland API before backporting it to the F-12 kernel. Not sure if there has been any progress on that in the last couple of weeks. If that was resolved, the feature should be quite straightforward to complete.
Actually quite likely to make F12. There was an madvise based API rollup at the end of June, and after a bit of back and forth, it appears that it is ready to push upstream as of this week. I am trying to catch Izik today for some final clarification before pushing the fedora kernel piece. I will update the feature page this week once I have the clarification I need on details.
Cool. In that case, you should move it to the ReadyForWrangler category so it can get on the list for this weeks FESCo meeting.
Cheers, Mark.
On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 11:03 +0100, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
I think this is largely done, but the feature page hasn't been updated in a long time.
I will do that today, and try and get it on FESCo's agenda for this Friday.
David
Mark McLoughlin wrote:
Haven't been following too closely, but I think this is more or less complete upstream. The feature page needs updating and moving to the ReadyForWrangler category.
2/3 complete upstream. Multipath remains to be done. I'll update the feature page shortly.
Dave
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