On 11/16/2013 06:36 PM, Cole Robinson wrote:
> On 11/14/2013 03:46 PM, Gene Czarcinski wrote:
>> I have been experimenting with putting /var/lib/libvirt/images on a
>> subvolume. What I found was ... interesting.
>> Just doing nothing else, a disk image file can en up with something
>> 50,000 extents or more. Now, you can go do a btrfs fi defrag and it
>> reduce but when you use the system, it will increase again.
>> OK, you cannot turn off "cow" for a subvolume but you can turn it
>> off for a
>> new file (or more important) for an new file in a directory: chattr +C
>> /var/lib/libvirt/images and any new disk image file will have no-cow.
>> OK, install a system with a new disk file. The result: a file with
>> extents. The reason, I used virt-manager and the disk image file
>> was a sparse file. Now in some respects sparse files are good
>> because they do
>> not use space unless they need it. But, with BTRFS, the result is
>> large scale
>> fragmentation. And, btrfs fi defrag does not
>> work on this file /directory.
>> OK, another try. Preallocate a file using dd if=/dev/zero
>> of=/var/lib/libvirt/images/xxx.img bs=1024 count=12587000 and the
>> result is a
>> 12GB (more or less) virtual disk. Install a system using this as
>> the virtual
>> disk. extents=9. install a second system subvol=root2 (it is a
>> virtual btrfs
>> system). extents=9. And a third one. extents=9. BTW, these
>> installs were
>> about the fastest I have ever seen!
>> So, is there a way to do this "sparse=false" disk allocation with
>> virt-manager, or do I need to do an RFE?
>> For a system where the disk images are going to be on BTRFS, a fully
>> disk has definite benefits.
> virt-manager already has this option: in the 'new vm' wizard, there's a
> checkbox for 'allocate entire disk now' or similar. it is checked by
> But we just ask libvirt to handle this for us, and it is likely using
> fallocate and not writing tons of zeros like dd will do.
> Maybe libvirt should skip that fallocate step on btrfs. I've moved
> your bug
>  to libvirt for further investigation.
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031303
I have been doing a lot more testing including running on Fedora 19
(my all BTRFS system has both Fedora-20-Beta and Fedora 19
installed). With Fedora-19 and virt-manager-0.10.0-4.fc19.noarch, the
VM creation wizard defaults the storage format defaults to raw. The
result is the the disk image file as a very low number of extents (59
under Fedora 19 but after rebooting into Fedora-20-Beta, it was 12).
Note: I am using "filefrag" to determine the number of extents.
I also ran a test which left a very small qcow2 disk and added an 8GB
raw disk where Fedora 20 was installed.
I assume that the disk image formatting is being handed off to libvirt
for all disk images. In that case, libvirt is working properly. The
difference is qcow2 which, IIUC, is a sparse only format and raw which
can be a nonsparse file.
Nonsparse raw format files all have a very low number of extents:
below 20 and most often below 10.
So, what is my problem? My "current" problem is that I cannot change
the storage format specified on the disk created by the vm creation
wizard. The current bugzilla report has become confused (my doing)
and I will be closing it and opening a new report with the problem as
I now understand it. To keep things simple, I will also be adding a
new bugzilla RFE report to ask for the ability to specify just what
the default storage format is.
Oh boy, this is one of those "never mind"
... "not a bug"
I found the preference where I can set the "default" for the "storage
format". Setting it to "raw", and things work as I want them to.