F11 features

[Mark McLoughlin]

Hey,

We're a bit behind on writing up descriptions for the virt features
coming in F11, but here's the first two pages:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtVNCAuth

Define a mapping of SASL authentication into the VNC protocol, and
  implement it for QEMU and GTK-VNC, providing strongly authenticated,
  securely encrypted remote access of virtual guest consoles.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_PCI_Device_Assignment

Assign PCI devices from your KVM host machine to guest virtual 
  machines. A common example is assigning a network card to a guest.

Please jump in with comments, testing, wiki edits, etc.

Cheers,
Mark.

F11 features - KVM and QEMU merge

[Mark McLoughlin]

Hi,

Here's another one:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge

Glommer is fleshing out more of the details on this as we speak.

Cheers,
Mark.

F11 features - KVM and QEMU merge

[James Laska]

On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:25 +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here's another one:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge
>
> Glommer is fleshing out more of the details on this as we speak.

Great stuff!  I'm actively looking to fill slots
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/F11) for upcoming test
days.

Glommer, just let me know if you would like to have a Fedora Test Day
for this feature.  We can use the a test day for whatever you feel needs
the most attention (unit tests, test planning, test case development,
exploratory testing, integration etc...).

Just let me know how I can of service :)

Thanks,
James

F11 features - KVM and QEMU merge

[Glauber Costa]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:14:00AM -0500, James Laska wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:25 +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here's another one:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge
> >
> > Glommer is fleshing out more of the details on this as we speak.
>
> Great stuff!  I'm actively looking to fill slots
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/F11) for upcoming test
> days.
>
> Glommer, just let me know if you would like to have a Fedora Test Day
> for this feature.  We can use the a test day for whatever you feel needs
> the most attention (unit tests, test planning, test case development,
> exploratory testing, integration etc...).

That would be awesome, since the last release we have for
qemu is so old, that problems are likely to appear. Be it with an hypotetical
official qemu release, be it with one of our own.

F11 features - KVM and QEMU merge

[Glauber Costa]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:14:00AM -0500, James Laska wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 15:25 +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here's another one:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge
> >
> > Glommer is fleshing out more of the details on this as we speak.
>
> Great stuff!  I'm actively looking to fill slots
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/F11) for upcoming test
> days.
>
> Glommer, just let me know if you would like to have a Fedora Test Day
> for this feature.  We can use the a test day for whatever you feel needs
> the most attention (unit tests, test planning, test case development,
> exploratory testing, integration etc...).
>
> Just let me know how I can of service :)

I have a test build of it at:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1076765

I haven't underwent any kind of testing yet, and it does not include kvm
support - To make it step by step, I based it on qemu-svn, not kvm-userspace.git

F11 features - Shared Network Interface

[Mark McLoughlin]

Hi,

Another one:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_Network_Interface

"Enable guest virtual machines to share a physical network interface
  (NIC) with other guests and the host operating system. This allows
  guests to independently appear on the same network as the host
  machine."

Cheers,
Mark.

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Mark McLoughlin]

Hey,
    Yet another feature page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control

Cheers,
Mark.

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Dale Bewley]

On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:42 +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hey,
>    Yet another feature page:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control

I've just begun to work on the F11 release notes here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Mark McLoughlin]

Hi Dale,

On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 16:18 -0800, Dale Bewley wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 12:42 +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > Hey,
> >    Yet another feature page:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SVirt_Mandatory_Access_Control
>
> I've just begun to work on the F11 release notes here:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat

Nice work :-)

One thing that's missing is a "new features and improvements" for KVM -
both the kvm package, and the kvm support in the kernel.

Thanks,
Mark,

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Harish Pillay]

> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat
> From that page, it says:

'The kernel-xen package has been obsoleted by the integration of
paravirtualization operations in the upstream kernel. The kernel package
in Fedora 11 supports booting as a guest domU, but will not function as
a dom0 until such support is provided upstream. The most recent Fedora
release with dom0 support is Fedora 8.'

As I write this, I am running F10 on a hardware virt enabled machine
(Dell Latitude D620) and have installed F10 and other distros as guests.
Hence, the statement above is unclear to me for F10 is running as both
dom0 and domU.

Am I not reading something right?

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Mark McLoughlin]

On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 16:49 +0800, Harish Pillay wrote:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat
> > From that page, it says:
>
> 'The kernel-xen package has been obsoleted by the integration of
> paravirtualization operations in the upstream kernel. The kernel package
> in Fedora 11 supports booting as a guest domU, but will not function as
> a dom0 until such support is provided upstream. The most recent Fedora
> release with dom0 support is Fedora 8.'
>
> As I write this, I am running F10 on a hardware virt enabled machine
> (Dell Latitude D620) and have installed F10 and other distros as guests.
> Hence, the statement above is unclear to me for F10 is running as both
> dom0 and domU.
>
> Am I not reading something right?

I think you're using KVM, not Xen :-)

Dom0 and DomU are only terms we use in relation to Xen - when talking
about KVM, we usually use the terms "host" and "guest".

The release note could be changed to "Xen Kernel Support" rather than
"Unified Kernel Image" and be moved towards the end of the notes. A
casual user doesn't really even need to know about KVM vs. Xen.

Cheers,
Mark.

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Harish Pillay]

> I think you're using KVM, not Xen :-)

That's right.  I am running KVM.
> Dom0 and DomU are only terms we use in relation to Xen - when talking
> about KVM, we usually use the terms "host" and "guest".
>
> The release note could be changed to "Xen Kernel Support" rather than
> "Unified Kernel Image" and be moved towards the end of the notes. A
> casual user doesn't really even need to know about KVM vs. Xen.

Indeed.  The clarity was what was missing.

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Dale Bewley]

----- "Mark McLoughlin"  wrote:
> The release note could be changed to "Xen Kernel Support" rather than
> "Unified Kernel Image" and be moved towards the end of the notes. A
> casual user doesn't really even need to know about KVM vs. Xen.

Excellent suggestion. That paragraph has not yet been edited since the F10 release. Other than s/10/11/g.

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Daniel P. Berrange]

On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 04:49:41PM +0800, Harish Pillay wrote:
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Virtualization_Beat
> > From that page, it says:
>
> 'The kernel-xen package has been obsoleted by the integration of
> paravirtualization operations in the upstream kernel. The kernel package
> in Fedora 11 supports booting as a guest domU, but will not function as
> a dom0 until such support is provided upstream. The most recent Fedora
> release with dom0 support is Fedora 8.'
>
> As I write this, I am running F10 on a hardware virt enabled machine
> (Dell Latitude D620) and have installed F10 and other distros as guests.
> Hence, the statement above is unclear to me for F10 is running as both
> dom0 and domU.

I don't know what you're running, but it certainly isn't a Fedora Xen
Dom0, since this does not exist. F9, F10 and F11 only support Xen DomU

The only host virtualization support is KVM

Daniel

F11 features - sVirt Mandatory Access Control

[Harish Pillay]

> > 'The kernel-xen package has been obsoleted by the integration of
> > paravirtualization operations in the upstream kernel. The kernel package
> > in Fedora 11 supports booting as a guest domU, but will not function as
> > a dom0 until such support is provided upstream. The most recent Fedora
> > release with dom0 support is Fedora 8.'
> >
> > As I write this, I am running F10 on a hardware virt enabled machine
> > (Dell Latitude D620) and have installed F10 and other distros as guests.
> > Hence, the statement above is unclear to me for F10 is running as both
> > dom0 and domU.
>
> I don't know what you're running, but it certainly isn't a Fedora Xen
> Dom0, since this does not exist. F9, F10 and F11 only support Xen DomU
>
> The only host virtualization support is KVM

I think Mark has already alluded to the fact that page is not specific
about Xen.  I am running KVM.