java plugin status

[Kevin Fenzi]

Greetings.

Do we have any folks that know/talk to the openjdk maintainers?

The java plugin + webkit is in some turmoil still, IMHO.

F12 & F13:

version 1.6.0.0-42.b18.fc13 and 1.6.0.0-40.b18.fc12 are available, but
at least some crash reports are still there:

says it still happens: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615502#c25

these midori bugs seem related still (it's not the same glibc kill,
it's something else, but it sure looks java plugin related.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598947
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600698
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612045
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632795

F14 & rawhide:

Are currently inheriting an old f13 build (1.6.0.0-41.b18.fc13)

Shouldn't they at least have the same build version as f13?
I don't see crashes with this version, but I do see 100% cpu hangs and
other odd behavior.

Thoughts?

kevin

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:49:43 pm Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> Do we have any folks that know/talk to the openjdk maintainers?
>
> The java plugin + webkit is in some turmoil still, IMHO.
>
> F12 & F13:
>
> version 1.6.0.0-42.b18.fc13 and 1.6.0.0-40.b18.fc12 are available, but
> at least some crash reports are still there:
>
> says it still happens:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615502#c25
>
> these midori bugs seem related still (it's not the same glibc kill,
> it's something else, but it sure looks java plugin related.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598947
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600698
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612045
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632795
>
> F14 & rawhide:
>
> Are currently inheriting an old f13 build (1.6.0.0-41.b18.fc13)
>
> Shouldn't they at least have the same build version as f13?
> I don't see crashes with this version, but I do see 100% cpu hangs and
> other odd behavior.
>
> Thoughts?

Hi Kevin,
this bug is one of my reasons to establish this SIG - to have higher "power" 
to deal with such cases. Problem is - OpenJDK people care only about Firefox - 
this bug was introduced as fix for Firefox! I talked to guy who submitted the 
update at first even with negative karma. Thanks for testing it with F12, I ask 
him to update it too. 
The question is - what can we do to make it better in the future? To not let 
it happen again?

Jaroslav
> kevin

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:43:00 +0200
Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:
> On Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:49:43 pm Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > Do we have any folks that know/talk to the openjdk maintainers?
> >
> > The java plugin + webkit is in some turmoil still, IMHO.
> >
> > F12 & F13:
> >
> > version 1.6.0.0-42.b18.fc13 and 1.6.0.0-40.b18.fc12 are available,
> > but at least some crash reports are still there:
> >
> > says it still happens:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615502#c25
> >
> > these midori bugs seem related still (it's not the same glibc kill,
> > it's something else, but it sure looks java plugin related.
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598947
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600698
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612045
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=632795
> >
> > F14 & rawhide:
> >
> > Are currently inheriting an old f13 build (1.6.0.0-41.b18.fc13)
> >
> > Shouldn't they at least have the same build version as f13?
> > I don't see crashes with this version, but I do see 100% cpu hangs
> > and other odd behavior.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Hi Kevin,
> this bug is one of my reasons to establish this SIG - to have higher
> "power" to deal with such cases. Problem is - OpenJDK people care
> only about Firefox - this bug was introduced as fix for Firefox! I
> talked to guy who submitted the update at first even with negative
> karma. Thanks for testing it with F12, I ask him to update it too. 
> The question is - what can we do to make it better in the future? To
> not let it happen again?

Well, I don't think the fix they have now is fully the fix... the above
shows that there are still problems. ;(

As to how to get leverage to get it fixed, not sure.

- We could file another bug and see if we can get them enough info
  there to fix it.

- We could reassign all the above bugs or any others that affect
  webkit to openjdk.

- We could politely mail [e-mail] and
  try and get some attention.

I was hoping someone here would know someone on the java team. ;)

kevin

[Martin Sourada]

Hi,

On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 14:49 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.

<snip>
> F14 & rawhide:
>
> Are currently inheriting an old f13 build (1.6.0.0-41.b18.fc13)

Just FYI, I noticed a recent build of the java plugin on F14 and it
actually makes java work in webkitgtk again, finally!

java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-44.1.9.1.fc14.i686

Martin