> * What about _not_ having the Wiki be the front page to fp.o? Then we
> could have free reign with design. It can have a newsfeed section or
> two to keep things lively, but even a better splash page than what we
> have until the $PYTHON_CMS arrives from the sky.
> Ready or not ...
I am helping Diana with the new front page and it would really help if
we did not have the wiki as a front page. Design prototype here
On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 16:35 -0800, Thomas Chung wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:53:56 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote
> > .. If news.fedoraproject.org is just
> > going to be a redirect to fedoranews.org then it might feasible for you
> > to try drupal and others but I think it would better for the formal
> > sites to be within the same infrastructure.
> I've already installed it (Dupal) and trying to learn some of its new features. :)
There are several reasons why we should be converging on a single
dynamically typed language and single statically typed language, as much
as possible, for fedora infrastructure:
1. conservation of skills
2. consistency of message
3. component interaction
Right now we have a buildsystem in python, an accounts system in python
a wiki in python and all the major tools for fedora, in python, but
we're testing out php-based cms? Am I the only one who thinks that seems
I think we should be looking at some of the python cms implementations
and for custom applications looking at turbogears and friends.
No need to contact fedora-france.org because i am the website
adminsitrator. I reading regularly the fedoranews issue and translate it
in french every week.
We are rather disconnected with the community as our website is being
reorganized for the moment. We will perform some changes very soon, with
a wiki for example and a french fedora blogging planet.
There is also a project to translate howto in the future.
I just noticed that "fedora-websites-list(a)redhat.com" is not the default reply address
for this list.
I think it should.
Anyone agree with me on this matter? Say "Aye" or "Nay" :)
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First, I'd like to welcome you all to the new Fedora Websites mailing
list. The purpose of this list is discussion related to the formal
Fedora websites (fedoraproject.org and fedora.redhat.com) and to allow a
forum for communication between the contributors and maintainers of
these sites and the maintainers of third-party Fedora-related websites.
To start off, we have a few items to address. Consider these the early
agenda for this list and the group it represents. Additions and
suggestions are welcome.
1. The List of Fedora Community Websites
Scott Glaser has begun working on a list  of Fedora Community
Websites that will be added to the Communicate page  of the wiki. If
you have any suggestions for this list, please contact him. He will
also need assistance in deciding what sorts of sites should be
included. If you have any remarks to that end, he will be happy to hear
them in #fedora-docs on freenode. Look for Sonar_Guy.
2. Deprecation of fedora.redhat.com
Ongoing efforts have been underway to place all critical content on the
fedoraproject.org wiki and to prepare the wiki to supplant the current
fedora.redhat.com website as the primary site for the Project. Much of
the content from f.r.c has already been duplicated on the wiki, but
there are still many pieces that have yet to be moved. One of the
bigger concerns is publishing the documentation produced by the Docs
Project on the wiki. Another key concern is tightening security and
establishing policies for key wiki pages, such as those which are
highest traffic or contain legal information.
3. Technical contacts and maintainers for wiki pages
The idea of marking pages on the wiki using comments to list technical
contacts/maintainers for those pages has been discussed on
fedora-docs-list. The idea is simple: have a maintainer assigned to
each page, who is responsible for keeping that page up-to-date and
generally taking care of it. For more details, please see the
fedora-docs-list archives .
4. Wiki translation
Yuan Yijun has jumped ahead of the rest of us and begun working on a
zh_CN translation of the wiki. So far, his work has not been in line
with the translation ideas discussed so far. We need to decide just how
we want to handle the wiki translation, including what kind of structure
we want to use, policies regarding translation of sensitive materials,
and what parts of the wiki should (not) be translated. Obviously, there
is interest in getting this done. We have had individuals interested
specifically in Japanese, Chinese, Brazilian Portuguese and French
translations all try to get things moving. It's time to figure out how
this is going to be done.
5. Usability improvements on the wiki
There have been several good suggestions for improvements to the wiki.
First, there was the idea of making a more general-purpose FrontPage to
better serve visitors. Then, assorted improvements for the wiki's
themes. A lot of progress has been made, lets see what else needs to be
done. The latest idea, courtesy of Rahul Sundaram, is the restoration
of the 'Parent' links provided by MoinMoin's default themes. These
links, which allow a visitor to quickly browse to any page's parent in
the hierarchy, disappeared during the creation of the
On a final note, if you have not already done so, you might want to
consider signing up for the 'web' group in the Fedora Account System and
adding yourself to the list on the wiki  of people
interested in working on the Fedora websites. Elliot Lee was kind
enough to start that page as a first step in coordinating work on the
Fedora websites. He had an excellent point, and one that is served well
by this new mailing list: it is time that all the various efforts to
improve Fedora on the web be coordinated so that they may move forward
more efficiently. Lets do it!
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ScottGlaser - See the bottom of the page
Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes
I think the entire two paragraphs on top explaining Fedora Extras
shouldn't be here. Technically this account system is for more than
just Extras. It should instead mention various sub-projects whose
accounts are managed by this system.
The link to Fedora FAQ on the bottom is out of place and confuses the
interface. Keep it simple and streamlined please. I want the line removed.
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 12:00 -0500,
> 5. Usability improvements on the wiki
> There have been several good suggestions for improvements to the wiki.
> First, there was the idea of making a more general-purpose FrontPage
> better serve visitors. Then, assorted improvements for the wiki's
> themes. A lot of progress has been made, lets see what else needs to
> done. The latest idea, courtesy of Rahul Sundaram, is the restoration
> of the 'Parent' links provided by MoinMoin's default themes. These
> links, which allow a visitor to quickly browse to any page's parent in
> the hierarchy, disappeared during the creation of the
> kindofblue/sinorca4moin theme.
"Kind of Blue" the new Fedoraproject.org theme was designed by Diana
(Fong) of Redhat. I think that we should consult Diana with any redesign
such as the placement of the 'Parent' links. I am not sure if she is
subscribed to the list but can someone check that?
I am currently working with Diana to implement a generic front page. A
mockup is at http://www.isity.net/temp/reformat.png . We may need to
have a different CSS for the front page because I am having a hard time
incorporating it in the limited functionality design functionality that
I guess any comments on the mockup will be welcome. Since I am familiar
with the website and the wiki, I can spend sometime to implement other
improvements that may come up.
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I've noticed I'm getting a few messages simliar to above ever since I joined Fedora
Project WebGroup. I know I have access to fedoraproject.org vendor list. Do I have
access to fedora.redhat.com vendor list? Does anyone in our group has direct access to
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